Proposal: Fire DJ Smith

Should the Sens fire DJ Smith?


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Sens of Anarchy

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If the margins were so close, maybe our league best top line should have showed up, or our secondary scoring, but no, let's pin it on the third pair... What a joke.

How'd that big Dmen that replaced Priessing do, oh yeah we got swept in the first round the next year. Mike Commodore and Luke Richardson were such a great additions....

Just one of the worst takes I've seen in ages... We lost because of Preissing. Good grief that's the garbage take of the year
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If the margins were so close, maybe our league best top line should have showed up, or our secondary scoring, but no, let's pin it on the third pair... What a joke.

How'd that big Dmen that replaced Priessing do, oh yeah we got swept in the first round the next year. Mike Commodore and Luke Richardson were such a great additions....

Just one of the worst takes I've seen in ages... We lost because of Preissing. Good grief that's the garbage take of the year

In one post you say Ottawa is failing this year because they don’t have the depth

In the next breath you are saying depth on defence isn’t important in the Stanley Cup finals
 

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If the margins were so close, maybe our league best top line should have showed up, or our secondary scoring, but no, let's pin it on the third pair... What a joke.

How'd that big Dmen that replaced Priessing do, oh yeah we got swept in the first round the next year. Mike Commodore and Luke Richardson were such a great additions....

Just one of the worst takes I've seen in ages... We lost because of Preissing. Good grief that's the garbage take of the year

You know I didn’t agree with Bryan Murray’s management tenure, but getting rid of Preissing was the right idea, replacing him with Luke Richardson was a bad idea. But that was Murray’s legacy, Spezza turned Nick Paul when Spezza went bald, Alfie turned into a balding Bobby Ryan, Ben Bishop and Robyn Lehner turned into Mike Condon and OHL coaches turned into NHL coaches
 

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In one post you say Ottawa is failing this year because they don’t have the depth

In the next breath you are saying depth on defence isn’t important in the Stanley Cup finals
What I'm saying is Preissing was fine, he didn't get scored on all series, you can't ask for much more from your 6th Dman, he didn't cost us anything, they didn't take advantage of him, he wasn't a factor.

I'm saying your best players win and lose you games, our best players weren't as good as theirs, hence why we lost. The absurdity of laying blame on Preissing for our loss to Anaheim is next level, so congrats I guess, but it's just a dumb take.
 

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It was a joke but sure

I've been pretty consistent that I think it's time for a change, I wanted it done in the offseason, but i think it's important to keep the criticisms fair. To often every fault gets blamed on the coach when some things are out of his hands.
My bad then.
 

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4th year with Anaheim. And an awful team embracing the tank. We're in two different places.

I guess I feel there's a difference between a team that trades their top picks for help and a team that is still trying to rebuild. Just like I'm not comparing DJ to Brindamour. If you're happy with that our team could just be doing worse, then fair play to you.
Yeah but that was us for the last three years as well. So if we’re throwing away the tanking years, then for the Sens you need to start this season if you want to argue DJ’s numbers.

I’m not against a coaching change eventually either, I just think a lot of what’s thrown around in here as facts is pure trash. Like give Eakins a pass for being in a rebuild, but using DJ’s rebuild years against him.
 

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Yeah but that was us for the last three years as well. So if we’re throwing away the tanking years, then for the Sens you need to start this season if you want to argue DJ’s numbers.

I’m not against a coaching change eventually either, I just think a lot of what’s thrown around in here as facts is pure trash. Like give Eakins a pass for being in a rebuild, but using DJ’s rebuild years against him.
eakins and DJ are both trash

The bar is so low here
 
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eakins and DJ are both trash

The bar is so low here
Is it the bar that is low? Or are there a few people with purposely unattainable expectations.

We are currently sitting exactly where most fans and pundits thought/hoped we’d be at this stage of the season. We have had a successful season.

Nobody realistically thought we’d be a playoff team to start the season, let alone after Norris went down. Add not having a starting goalie during the most crucial stretch of the season and it’s a wonder we’re still in the mix of bubble teams, but here we are.

Guys are posting every negative stat they can, while completely ignoring the positive stats that have been there since the start of the season. Goalposts have moved from comparing us to teams close to us in the rebuild cycle, when they were ahead, to teams ahead of us now that we have passed them, all so the same posters can defend their doom and gloom positions that they have held for years.

Criticism are fine, and to take the next step we need to continue to shore up areas of play, but we have fixed and grown in so many areas this season, which is a testament to the coaches and the players. More is needed for sure, and maybe that will require a new voice, but to pretend that this season has been a failure, and a coaching failure, is a joke.

New coaches, same coaches, I don’t really care as long as we keep getting better like we have been. In the end you guys are going to cherry pick whatever stats are applicable to hate the next group of coaches regardless.

Those of us who have been around long enough have seen the same people do the same thing over and over and over again.
 

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We could talk about Heatley’s injury early in the finals that effected his shot and he was quiet, Redden also started having trouble with his acceleration late that season that his career turned for the worse but Redden was still fearless and never gave an inch despite being hobbled - having a bum knee doesn’t make you scared, being scared of your opposition makes you scared
How about Ottawa with no even strength goals in the first two games, both losses)? And outshot 63-36 in those games? And you could say the turning point of the series was Alfredsson shooting the puck at Niedermeyer at the end of the second period in the 4th game.
 
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Ice-Tray

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Grass is always greener, until it isn’t. I find it weird that people expect ’new people’ to take the reigns do a better job.

I suspect such people to be up in arms soon enough as always.

It‘s hard to find a successful GM, we haven’t had one since before Muckler, and yet people think we’ll just find a better one in the off season because they want one.

Our current GM is overseeing what everyone outside of this website views as a successful rebuild so far, and yet we should be replacing him stat!

Makes little sense to me. The grass is very rarely greener, which is the point of the idiom.
 

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How about Ottawa with no even strength goals in the first two games, both losses)? And outshot 63-36 in those games? And you could say the turning point of the series was Alfredsson shooting the puck at Niedermeyer at the end of the second period in this game.
I did lose my voice at the next 2 games though.
 
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Its game over for Dorion and DJ and his crew . We need this ownership change and we need Hockey ops oversight in place ahead of the draft. Can't come soon enough for me.
Agreed but doubt they will have time to get that in Place before the draft but you never know how fast the sale process will go.

We don't have to worry about showing up till day 2 around noon as we don't have a pick till then. 😹
 

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Agreed but doubt they will have time to get that in Place before the draft but you never know how fast the sale process will go.

We don't have to worry about showing up till day 2 around noon as we don't have a pick till then. 😹
More centered around wtf happens with DeBrincat
 

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You know I didn’t agree with Bryan Murray’s management tenure, but getting rid of Preissing was the right idea, replacing him with Luke Richardson was a bad idea. But that was Murray’s legacy, Spezza turned Nick Paul when Spezza went bald, Alfie turned into a balding Bobby Ryan, Ben Bishop and Robyn Lehner turned into Mike Condon and OHL coaches turned into NHL coaches
If you were such a big fan you'd know the real catalyst as to why those things happened.

More centered around wtf happens with DeBrincat
Too little too late from him. He shows up like this against Boston, Toronto and Colorado and the team is sitting at 77 to 80 points right now. They've got atleast 1 win possibly 3.
 

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If bert is alluding to Melnyk/finances i think he's right.

Smith did a great job laying a foundation. It's just time to find someone who can take us to the next level.
This is how I feel about Smith, he helped build a room that cares and is tight, that will pay dividends going forward.

That said, I think there are other coaches who can get more out of this team from a tactical standpoint.
 

Tuna99

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If bert is alluding to Melnyk/finances i think he's right.

Smith did a great job laying a foundation. It's just time to find someone who can take us to the next level.

Agree - like the team cohesion they just need a better road map for tactical success
 
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This is how I feel about Smith, he helped build a room that cares and is tight, that will pay dividends going forward.

That said, I think there are other coaches who can get more out of this team from a tactical standpoint.
If the right coach is available, I'm all in for change. But change for the sake of change doesn't really do anything for me. Also, I wonder what his record would be this year with a healthy Norris and a signed Formenton. You reckon 3-4 wins better, at the least? They had 32 EVG last year between them. Would have made a massive difference for us this year. Massive.
 
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