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Player Discussion Filip Chytil: Part II

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ColonialsHockey10 said:
This is one of the weirdest situations ever lol.

Makes you really wonder what went down last time he was injured.

But I am absolutely here for it.
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Such are the case with concussions. You can theoretically recover immediately, it could take days, weeks, years. And sometimes the healing is just completely arbitrary and random.
 
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bhamill said:
You can put pretty much ANYONE with 20-93 and get the same result. THEY DONT CLICK WITH ANYONE. Hahaha. That’s the point of my joke about Fil suffering enough. That wing is a f***ing graveyard. Has been for literally years.
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Eh, let’s not be hyperbolic again. Buchnevich looked great there while still developing before he hit his full prime levels with the Blues. Lafreniere has been good there for stretches last season two. When Chytil lost his confidence wasn’t he put on a wing there too albeit very short time before going back to C, and he didn’t look out of place. Lastly Blais looked pretty good there before tearing his knee ligaments by slewfoot.
 
kovazub94 said:
Eh, let’s not be hyperbolic again. Buchnevich looked great there while still developing before he hit his full prime levels with the Blues. Lafreniere has been good there for stretches last season two. When Chytil lost his confidence wasn’t he put on a wing there too albeit very short time before going back to C, and he didn’t look out of place. Lastly Blais looked pretty good there before tearing his knee ligaments by slewfoot.
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I’ll give you that I’m exaggerating for effect and humor, but not by much. Nobody, and this includes Fil being tried there already, has made a lasting run on their wing since Buch, which was, as I said, YEARS ago. For three years that wing has been a veritable graveyard, with all sorts of players from checkers to scorers and every type in between, tried there. So SURE, MAYBE Fil fares better this time around, but my bet is is that it turns out same old same old. It’s not on the wingers that have been tried there, the common denominator is 93-20.
Meanwhile we KNOW Kakko and Fil work well together and I see that 24-72-50 line as potentially an excellent 2 way line, a third line few teams can boast.
 
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Chytil is their 6th or 7th best forward. He will play. Even rusty he is an upgrade over several players. If he was just skating with the team, they wouldn’t have cleared him for contact.
 
kovazub94 said:
Eh, let’s not be hyperbolic again. Buchnevich looked great there while still developing before he hit his full prime levels with the Blues. Lafreniere has been good there for stretches last season two. When Chytil lost his confidence wasn’t he put on a wing there too albeit very short time before going back to C, and he didn’t look out of place. Lastly Blais looked pretty good there before tearing his knee ligaments by slewfoot.
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Zooks played very well with CK and Zibs as well. We also have to factor in defense. In a recent game vs Pitt Bread and Laf looked pretty bad defensively vs Crosby. When Lavi switched up the line matchups and had Zibs/CK vs Crosby, Sid had a harder time.
 
bhamill said:
I’ll give you that I’m exaggerating for effect and humor, but not by much. Nobody, and this includes Fil being tried there already, has made a lasting run on their wing since Buch, which was, as I said, YEARS ago. For three years that wing has been a veritable graveyard, with all sorts of players from checkers to scorers and every type in between, tried there. So SURE, MAYBE Fil fares better this time around, but my bet is is that it turns out same old same old. It’s not on the wingers that have been tried there, the common denominator is 93-20.
Meanwhile we KNOW Kakko and Fil work well together and I see that 24-72-50 line as potentially an excellent 2 way line, a third line few teams can boast.
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First, for years we had the same meme about Panarin (and whatever center) unable to play with any RW until Lafreniere silenced this noise, so I don’t buy it re Zibanejad either.

Re. Chytil - yeah I can see both views but IMO it comes down to - do you want a strong third line (which is a benefit in itself) or potentially create another first line?
 
Gordon Bombay said:
Honestly it needs to be changed…
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Absolutely. But, but the fact that it will only get addressed after NYR “benefits” from it is what makes this whole thing a joke. Parenthetically, I agree with others - the degree that teams have circumvented are a magnitude higher than NYR here. They hid away and brought in all stars. Us, not so much. God forbid we win the cup and CHYTIL takes a shift…the pearl clutching will be off the charts.
 
will1066 said:
Clearly Leschyshyn was a sacrifice to create the story. We should thank Jake for his selflessness. In fact, I'm hearing on the wire that he was nowhere near the rink when the"incident" occurred.
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Revisionist! This is a thought-crime in Eastasia.

JC is at war with Leshitshow and has always been at war with Leshitshow...
 
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About to board the plane. Guess I'll find out what happens later
 
NickyFotiu said:
Zooks played very well with CK and Zibs as well. We also have to factor in defense. In a recent game vs Pitt Bread and Laf looked pretty bad defensively vs Crosby. When Lavi switched up the line matchups and had Zibs/CK vs Crosby, Sid had a harder time.
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Zooks was even longer ago than Buch. And Im talking about them clicking with a wing, not about their overall effectiveness or defensive prowess.
My only point is that it doesn’t really matter who you put there. Put Vesey, put Fil, put Wenn… it doesn’t matter. That line will look exactly the same: 20 and 93 doing their thing, underperforming offensively at 5v5 with whoever is on wing just languishing. It’s been THREE years since they really worked well with a wing. It’s THEM, not all of the wings, and that list includes Fil already…
Meanwhile Fil, would actually ELEVATE the 3rd line. We’ve seen he works with Kakko and I think 50-72-24 would be excellent.
 
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kovazub94 said:
First, for years we had the same meme about Panarin (and whatever center) unable to play with any RW until Lafreniere silenced this noise, so I don’t buy it re Zibanejad either.

Re. Chytil - yeah I can see both views but IMO it comes down to - do you want a strong third line (which is a benefit in itself) or potentially create another first line?
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It’s a false choice though. Because Fil has already been there and we’d be wasting him. But I guess we’ll see. Hey, I’d LOVE if Fil could click with them and get them going at 5v5 but we’ve all seen this before and I doubt it ends differently.
As far as Pan, it was the way HE WAS PLAYING. The difference this year is he rededicated himself, and changed the WAY he plays, the areas of the ice he will go to, his shot rate. If he was still playing the same game he played the last couple of years, it wouldn’t matter who he was on a line with either. This isn’t simply that he found a center and wing he could work with. He was working great with Fil before he got hurt as well. Apples and Oranges.
 
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bhamill said:
Zooks was even longer ago than Buch. And Im talking about them clicking with a wing, not about their overall effectiveness or defensive prowess.
My only point is that it doesn’t really matter who you put there. Put Vesey, put Fil, put Wenn… it doesn’t matter. That line will look exactly the same: 20 and 93 doing their thing, underperforming offensively at 5v5 with whoever is on wing just languishing. It’s been THREE years since they really worked well with a wing. It’s THEM, not all of the wings, and that list includes Fil already…
Meanwhile Fil, would actually ELEVATE the 3rd line. We’ve seen he works with Kakko and I think 50-72-24 would be excellent.
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I just want the best team. Which line doesn't matter to me nor do line numbers. I think the CK bashing at even strength is overblown. Im disappointed in his effort at times but his production is not horrible at even strength. The right wings we tried this season weren't exactly studs in their prime either.
 
NickyFotiu said:
I just want the best team. Which line doesn't matter to me nor do line numbers. I think the CK bashing at even strength is overblown. Im disappointed in his effort at times but his production is not horrible at even strength. The right wings we tried this season weren't exactly studs in their prime either.
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I’m not bashing CK. Nor Mika. I’m just being frank. They have been disappointing at 5v5. That’s just the reality of it without hyperbole.
No wing we’ve tried with them at even strength has worked in three years. Including Fil. At some point we have to accept that it’s not EVERYONE ELSE, it’s them.
I also want the best team, nor do I care about line numbers. Just think that 50-72-24 and 20-93-whoever is better than 50-91-24 and 20-93-72. I don’t think 20-93 are going to be much better or worse no matter who is put there, but I think 50-24 will benefit greatly from 72. I’d love to be proven wrong but I highly doubt I will.
 
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bhamill said:
I’m not bashing CK. Nor Mika. I’m just being frank. They have been disappointing at 5v5. That’s just the reality of it without hyperbole.
No wing we’ve tried with them at even strength has worked in three years. Including Fil. At some point we have to accept that it’s not EVERYONE ELSE, it’s them.
I also want the best team, nor do I care about line numbers. Just think that 50-72-24 and 20-93-whoever is better than 50-91-24 and 20-93-72. I don’t think 20-93 are going to be much better or worse no matter who is put there, but I think 50-24 will benefit greatly from 72. I’d love to be proven wrong but I highly doubt I will.
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I'm okay with that. I just do not think correlation equals causation. The right wings we have tried have not been huge successes in those same seasons elsewhere. Vesey, Wheeler, and KK have not looked like top 6 wings on any line this season. Mika has had a tough time scoring at even strength this season. CK has not.
 
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How much does a healthy Chytil improve this team?

Depth increases for sure. I think his skating alone helps the overall intensity of this team.
 
CasusBelli said:
Really wish he would retire for his long term health. Don’t mess with your melon.
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This is his profession and he has been cleared to play by medical staff. He said he feels good so let him play. The Rangers have been very cautious with him. There are other players in this league who missed a good deal of time with a concussion and came back with no issues.
 
PuckLuck3043 said:
This is his profession and he has been cleared to play by medical staff. He said he feels good so let him play. The Rangers have been very cautious with him. There are other players in this league who missed a good deal of time with a concussion and came back with no issues.
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I was sure Crosby's career was over like a decade ago and he never gets concussions anymore. They are a weird injury and wildly unpredictable.
 
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