Player Discussion Filip Chytil: Part II

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Thought I saw a stat last week that Panarin Tro Laf have scored the most even strength goals of any line in the league.

I can’t imagine that’s still the case now, they’ve gone a bit cold

WHAT?????? You're going to reward our 1OA for a great season by moving him to the third line? That's insane

Sounds like something the team would do tbh

 

[Crease]

I can’t imagine that’s still the case now, they’ve gone a bit cold

Here’s the tweet:



I don’t see a coaching staff breaking up that line unless the team is down in a series and needs a major shake up.

 

[SA16]

Thought I saw a stat last week that Panarin Tro Laf have scored the most even strength goals of any line in the league.

Coincidentally they also have the most even strength TOI of any line in the league. You know who has the second most TOI? Forsberg ROR Nyquist. Your classic misleading tweet.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Sounds like something the team would do tbh

Sadly, I have to agree with you.

 

[Profet]

Here’s the tweet:



I don’t see a coaching staff breaking up that line unless the team is down in a series and needs a major shake up.

That's an odd stat without using time on ice.

For reference Cuylle-Brodzinski-Kakko have a better goals/60 then Panarin-Trocheck-Lafreniere.

 

[KOVALEV022473]

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He needs to stop doing this

It’s fine, provided he’s already looked to his left first.

 

[kovazub94]

Panarin-Tro-Chytil
Kreider-ZIbs-Rosloshit
Lafreniere-Wennberg-Kakko
Cuylle-Goodrow-Vesey

This is by far the WORST of all suggested lineups I’ve seen proposed since Chytil’s news came out.

 

[KevinFinnerty]

This is by far the WORST of all suggested lineups I’ve seen proposed since Chytil’s news came out.

lol thanks

maybe we can go Kreider-Chytil-Zibby for line 2?

 

[FIRE DRURY]

lol thanks

maybe we can go Kreider-Chytil-Zibby for line 2?

Why not just have Chytil at RW? Especially after coming back from his injury?

Edit: You’re that dope that was whining nonstop about Quick earlier this year. Now the f***ed up line combos make sense.

 

[bhamill]

According to what stat?

Most goals scored.

Coincidentally they also have the most even strength TOI of any line in the league. You know who has the second most TOI? Forsberg ROR Nyquist. Your classic misleading tweet.

Coincidently those lines get so much TOI because they score so much…

 

[Profet]

Coincidently those lines get so much TOI because they score so much…

That's actually not how math works.

There are plenty of lines that score at a higher rate than that line... As previously noted, that's including Cuylle-Brodzinski-Kakko.

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I can’t imagine that’s still the case now, they’ve gone a bit cold


Sounds like something the team would do tbh

They just scored last game and had an 8 goal lead earlier in the week.

 

[JimmyG89]

You want to bring him back slowly? He slots with Wennberg and Kakko. Two heady players that can read off his speed and will grind it out. You dint scratch Roslovic because you can rotate them.

Cuylle goes down to the 4th with Goodrow and Vesey. I think that is your best 12 based on slots.

 

[bhamill]

That's actually not how math works.

There are plenty of lines that score at a higher rate than that line... As previously noted, that's including Cuylle-Brodzinski-Kakko.

Yeah. Interesting. Especially since I didn’t give you an equation. It’s more of a chicken or the egg, philosophical exercise. They get so much ice time because they score so much, they get more opportunity to score because they get so much ice time. You really think they only score more than Cuylle-Brodz- Kakko because they get more ice time? Enjoy that opinion. I think you are on an island there. If anything I think you are showing how points/60 is a pretty incomplete stat. No team in the league would rank the Cuylle line above the Pan line. Guess that’s why they give the Art Ross trophy to the best Points/60… oh wait.
The fact remains that they are the highest scoring line in the NHL, a pretty good argument for saying they are the best line in the league, and for certain ONE OF THE BEST. How that’s arguable is beyond me.

 

[KevinFinnerty]

Why not just have Chytil at RW? Especially after coming back from his injury?

Edit: You’re that dope that was whining nonstop about Quick earlier this year. Now the f***ed up line combos make sense.

yeah I was on him and happy to be proven wrong.

 

[TheGortonConspiracy]

I don't think he goes into the top 6 for the first game at least. First game he goes on third line.

 

[HockeyBasedNYC]

You want to bring him back slowly? He slots with Wennberg and Kakko. Two heady players that can read off his speed and will grind it out. You dint scratch Roslovic because you can rotate them.

Cuylle goes down to the 4th with Goodrow and Vesey. I think that is your best 12 based on slots.

I agree with this.

If he comes back I think it will be on that line to start. Sheltered minutes. It doesn’t upset things too much.

Cuylle had a few rotations with the 4th line not long ago, he can play that role very effectively. It makes them an even stronger 4 line team.

Re Wennberg - I think there’s a lot of trust in him from the staff. They identified him as a type of player they needed to add for not only depth but versatility and intelligence.

Hes a very heady support player and he and Kakko will allow Chytil to play a freer game and that will bode well for his confidence.

We also know the chemistry between Kakko and Chytil. If it works just roll with it. Chytil is a top 6 talent, as is Wennberg and occasionally Kakko. Thats a tough line to contain, even if it means a ton of possession, the puck is out of your end

 

[GoAwayPanarin]

I actually don't hate the idea of Wennberg on the top line. If they aren't going to score, best equip them so that the other team doesn't score either.

OTOH, Kreider-Chytil has always been a pretty fire combo.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

A lot of posters on here have said Kreider -Zibs need a puck carrier on the other wing. Chytil is that guy. Again, that's a huge upgrade. Roslovic becomes a bottom 6 guy, which in the playoffs it will be huge having a guy like that in that role.

 

[kovazub94]

I don't think he goes into the top 6 for the first game at least. First game he goes on third line.

This is overthinking it. If Laviolette ultimately wants to see him RW with Zibanejad why mess with the 3rd line first? What do you do with Kakko in this scenario? It doesn’t make sense.

 

[NickyFotiu]

Here’s the tweet:



I don’t see a coaching staff breaking up that line unless the team is down in a series and needs a major shake up.

Is that accurate when Auston Mathews has 51 EV goals all by himself? Seems like he is cherry picking stuff based on lines and ignoring that Mathews alone has 51.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

Is that accurate when Auston Mathews has 51 EV goals all by himself? Seems like he is cherry picking stuff based on lines and ignoring that Mathews alone has 51.

He's had different linemates at times throughout the year. This is not cherry picking. Any given combo of 3 forwards(aka a line). If Matthews has had different lines then there is no single line that gets credit for his entire 51 EV goals.

 

[The Crypto Guy]

That's an odd stat without using time on ice.

For reference Cuylle-Brodzinski-Kakko have a better goals/60 then Panarin-Trocheck-Lafreniere.

How is is an odd stat without ice time? The top lines on every other team are likely getting around the same ice time as our line. Who cares about goals/60. Fact is they have been scoring a ton of goals at ES over the season.

 

[NickyFotiu]

He's had different linemates at times throughout the year. This is not cherry picking. Any given combo of 3 forwards(aka a line). If Matthews has had different lines then there is no single line that gets credit for his entire 51 EV goals.

It is misleading imo. What it basically says is the Bread line while good has played over 100 minutes more than other lines. 400 more minutes than any Mathews line.

 

[SA16]

All the stat means is the team has a coach who likes to remain consistent with his line combinations and the team has been relatively healthy.