We already know they can win silver. There's really nothing to be proud of.
GDT: Feb. 20 • Women's Gold Medal Game • Canada vs. United States • Pt IV
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We already know they can win silver. There's really nothing to be proud of.
Evil Doctor
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It's inevitable, especially when you are playing the US and you can't even slide a piece of paper between the talent levels of the two teams. Nobody can stay perfect, which means we should enjoy the victories when they happen, for they may not come again for a long time...
I thought the US got quite a few breaks actually. They had a couple of really questionable calls in the first period and could easily have had a bigger lead. The ref taking out the Canadian player to give the US an empty net was the biggest break either team got. The US just didn't capitalize on it by hitting the post.
Cawz
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#1 was an obvious penalty.
#2 wouldnt have been called if #1 wasnt called, but thats hockey. If you are given a PP in OT and dare the ref to give you a penalty after you have been warned, you deserve to get called. Dont ever give the refs a reason to even things up. Its the same as when you get a bunch of powerplays in a row. You always have to be wary of that next call going against you.
#3 was an obvious penalty at the time. Sure, upon further review she may not have hauled her down as obviously as it appeared at first, but if someone has a breakaway and you are behind them and pull them down, you are getting a penalty.
The refs were in the way the entire game, for both teams, that wasnt a factor, too bad the officials werent better, they marred an otherwise wonderful game.
The only thing more painful I can remember having to watch other than the US women receiving their medals today was JS Giguere accepting the Conn Smythe in 03 after losing to the Devils...no doubt both did not get what they really wanted.
The slash had basis. Earlier in the third the US captain slashed the goalie when she clearly had the puck and it wasn't lose at all and she got a warning. They did it again in OT and it was stupid. If you're gonna blame the refs for the lose, maybe start with the idiot that slashed the goalie when the puck wasn't even close to being loose. You didn't see Canada wacking the US goalie at all.
And the last penalty was a clear trip. Regardless of it being her feet, she interfered with a clearcut breakaway so i don't know how you can complain about that. I don't know how that wasn't a penalty shot either.
And the last penalty was a clear trip. Regardless of it being her feet, she interfered with a clearcut breakaway so i don't know how you can complain about that. I don't know how that wasn't a penalty shot either.
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Probably the one thing I will take away from this game, unfortunately, is how huge a role that stupid linesperson could have played in the history of the Olympic games. I think we need to put it into a historical perspective because she literally almost changed history with that bonehead, level one referee move.
The first thing you are taught as a linesman is to get yourself back to the blueline after you drop the puck. The second thing you are taught is to make sure your path is 100% clear before you make that move or you are an idiot.
Why on earth are such unqualified people officiating a game that will literally go into the record books and become a part of the history of the game of hockey and the Olympics in general?
I appreciate that they want to get women involved in officiating women's hockey, but they should have the best possible officials doing important games.
There is being in the way and then there is pushing a player off the puck in a gold medal game with an open net because you are too dumb to realize that the playing of the game is more important than you getting back to the blueline like they told you to do at ref school.
When you have a 2-1 lead with a minute left and an empty net and the ref blocks the Canadian player it's a huge factor. Those kind of misses always seem to come back and bite a team. One team took advantage of their breaks and the other didn't.
And she was severely disciplined because of her actions
And today I thought that USA was plYing so well in the third period,and it was a near impossible obstacle ...but because they overcame a great team and corrupt ref ..in 2006 .I said I can't not believe in this women's team ...wow
Alwalys
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No it didn't. That play was plain and simply not a slash. They even replayed it and it couldn't have been clearer. That wasn't even ticky tack, that was a phantom, and if you don't play for the puck when you are in front of the goalie, you don't deserve to play on a team competing for the gold medal. Canadian fans denying this just goes to show how credible they are on analyzing what happened.
The ref flat out chose to make a phantom call to deny the US a PP so as "not to get involved" and in process, she got more involved. That's why you do not make calls like that.
I only recall two instances of that ever occurring, Iginla in game 7 in 04...thankfully for him he got away with it and the other was I believe an Oilers player about 6 or 7 years ago, the worst part for him was I think not only did he fall down in front of the empty net with it wide open for him but I think the opposing team both tied and then won the game before OT.
Players got blocked the entire game, the refs were moving in slow motion, i'm not sure why there werent better refs in this game, that's something they can address in the future.
I can certainly understand if the US feels shafted by the calls in OT. I was kind of hoping Canada wouldn't win in it on the resulting power play because the controversy would (and has) engulf(ed) everything else about the game.
I don't follow women's hockey so it all might just be in my head but it seems like this is just the latest in a long line of Olympic officiating controversies. It's unfortunate because I am sure the players involved spent the past 4 years giving everything thing they had to first making their respective teams and then trying to win gold, and did so in near obscurity. After 4 long years and a lot of hard work they finally get their chance at the spotlight and a little recognition and their reward (apart from the medals of course) ends up being answering questions about something they have no control over... By this time tomorrow they will have all gone back to toiling in anonymity and hoping for another shot in 4 years. Both (all) teams deserve better.
I don't follow women's hockey so it all might just be in my head but it seems like this is just the latest in a long line of Olympic officiating controversies. It's unfortunate because I am sure the players involved spent the past 4 years giving everything thing they had to first making their respective teams and then trying to win gold, and did so in near obscurity. After 4 long years and a lot of hard work they finally get their chance at the spotlight and a little recognition and their reward (apart from the medals of course) ends up being answering questions about something they have no control over... By this time tomorrow they will have all gone back to toiling in anonymity and hoping for another shot in 4 years. Both (all) teams deserve better.
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I'm curious..... what is it that makes you the 'right' one and everyone else the wrong ones? Seriously, I'd like to know what you have to back it up rather than just your 'opinion' that it is so. Where are the facts? Where is the video evidence? The hidden voice recording of her planning to affect the outcome of the game with a 'phantom' call? Where is the ref's written testimony that she deliberately gave a 'phantom' call out of thin air for some strange reason you keep alluding to that doesn't bear up in the light of day or in the absence of concrete facts? I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting for some FACTS instead of conjecture.
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I'm curious..... what is it that makes you the 'right' one and everyone else the wrong ones? Seriously, I'd like to know what you have to back it up rather than just your 'opinion' that it is so. Where are the facts? Where is the video evidence? The hidden voice recording of her planning to affect the outcome of the game with a 'phantom' call? Where is the ref's written testimony that she deliberately gave a 'phantom' call out of thin air for some strange reason you keep alluding to that doesn't bear up in the light of day or in the absence of concrete facts? I'm sure I'm not the only one waiting for some FACTS instead of conjecture.
For those of you old enough to remember in the 1972 Canada-USSR series there were two refs Badar and Kampar (sp?). One was a Czech as I recall. They were so partisan that Pete Mahovlich nicknamed them Badder and Worse.
This
over and over and over again
If you can't finish a team off you don't deserve to win
I'm sure someone already mentioned this one but the irony of both Kessels being on the two teams that blew those almost unblowable leads is remarkable...Toronto's lead of course was worse given its the NHL and they were up by more.
Live in the Now
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Every further comment questioning the legitimacy of women's hockey, no matter how borderline, will be infracted.
Keep it out of here.
Keep it out of here.
Exactly! A two goal lead and then were gifted a clear shot at an empty net in the dying minutes. I'm sure they are thinking more about the blown lead than any calls that may or may not have been questionable.
hitmen19
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its a farce? the girls played amazing to comeback. if you don't like the call, blame the ref, not the girls who played lights out. They didn't do anything wrong to get those calls. such an incredibly repugnant post
amen
no one asking you to. The girls played amazing and respectful. they didn't take any cheap shots or cheat in any way to win. The ref was an international ref, go ***** to her about the calls if you don't like them, not the girls
yup with 02 a close second.
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Well, I don't know about "worse" considering one was in a gold medal game and the other was in the first round but your other point is kind of funny. Never thought of that. Hear there is a Bozek too.
There is something to be proud of,we won silver and thats nothing to be sad about,i would have liked gold,but we have to settle for silver
