Fastest and slowest NHL forwards and defensemen

[RipsADrive]

I know Robertson was never a burner, but is he still noticeably affected by his offseason foot injury?

No way he could possibly be slower than Corey Perry...

 

[Golden_Jet]

and my question is this a straight line or breaking in and out of traffic?

It’s a cumulative stat, kept for every second of every shift throughout the year, for each player,
So it’s for everything that can happen on the ice .

 

[ESH]

They're tracked via chips on jerseys. I'm sure they've done data analysis to remove short sample sizes from taking hits or falling down.

I’m not sure how taking hits or falling down would be relevant to any of the stats displayed in the OP

 

[DearDiary]

I’m not sure how taking hits or falling down would be relevant to any of the stats displayed in the OP

Jerseys trackers watch how fast you're moving, you would move faster being hit than you could at your top speed.

 

[Terry Yake]

Maroon being the slowest forward is the least surprising stat I've seen.

there's video floating around on youtube of maroon skating backwards during a drill in ducks training camp years ago and it was like watching a low level beer league player

 

[Fantomas]

Honestly in awe of players who suck at something essential like skating while still excelling at their profession. Hat's off.

 

[swiftwin]

Honestly in awe of players who suck at something essential like skating while still excelling at their profession. Hat's off.

Lmao, it's all relative. The suckiest NHL skaters are far better skaters than 99.99% of posters on here.

 

[bland]

Speed bursts for stay at homers might be the most irrelevant stat in sports.

Mikey Anderson is a terrific skater, he just never needs to turn on the burners because he reads plays well.

How is it trash? It’s exact science here

The numbers are just math.

The meaning behind them is about as far from "science" as it gets. Stats just don't mean much in general, but some are worthless on all fronts.

 

[Roland of Gilead]

There are slow forwards and then there is Jordan Staal. He is just too slow to todays game. He has some great moments still, but he is too slow and slows his 4th line too much. Time to retirement. Jordan hasnt been ever a quick player, but nowdays he is just too slow to reach.

And yes, I have watched almost every Canes games in last 5 years.

 

[Albatros]

There are slow forwards and then there is Jordan Staal. He is just too slow to todays game. He has some great moments still, but he is too slow and slows his 4th line too much. Time to retirement. Jordan hasnt been ever a quick player, but nowdays he is just too slow to reach.

And yes, I have watched almost every Canes games in last 5 years.

Measured 23.15 mph top speed this season, while McDavid peaks at 23.85 mph. And 312 bursts above 18 mph in 776 shifts. That's still borderline elite territory, at minimum very good for a 36-year-old.

 

[Luigi Lemieux]

Measured 23.15 mph top speed this season, while McDavid peaks at 23.85 mph. And 312 bursts above 18 mph in 776 shifts. That's still borderline elite territory, at minimum very good for a 36-year-old.

Staal being close to Mcdavid in top speed shows how useless that stat is. What actually matters at this level is acceleration.

 

[NyQuil]

Staal being close to Mcdavid in top speed shows how useless that stat is. What actually matters at this level is acceleration.

We used to joke about Chris Phillips and the fact that his top speed wasn’t too bad.

You would see it occasionally at 4 on 4 where there was a lot more ice out there and he would make a big rush along the boards.

The amusing part was that it would take like half the entire ice surface for him to get up to top speed.

It was like watching a locomotive leave the station.

 

[My3Sons]

Measured 23.15 mph top speed this season, while McDavid peaks at 23.85 mph. And 312 bursts above 18 mph in 776 shifts. That's still borderline elite territory, at minimum very good for a 36-year-old.

That’s not at all suspicious.

 

[Borlag]

Loving that Detroit has two top 10 players, future isn't loooking so bleak afterall.

Oh wait, I might have missed something, ah screw it, top 10 forward and defenseman woohoo

 

[Cup or Bust]

Staal being close to Mcdavid in top speed shows how useless that stat is. What actually matters at this level is acceleration.

That and also the ability to make plays at higher speeds.

 

[Skidooboy]

don't buy this chart at all....
If you have a fastest skater chart, and it doesn't include Ehlers? Or worse... picks a Jet other than Ehlers? Then I think it's a meaningless chart with a pointless data collection method.

Nik Ehlers is faster than probably anyone in the NHL other than McDavid... top 5 for sure.

 

[Golden_Jet]

don't buy this chart at all....
If you have a fastest skater chart, and it doesn't include Ehlers? Or worse... picks a Jet other than Ehlers? Then I think it's a meaningless chart with a pointless data collection method.

Nik Ehlers is faster than probably anyone in the NHL other than McDavid... top 5 for sure.

So I checked Ehlers is in 89% percentile in the league this year (his top speed attained).
Speed bursts over 20 mph 73rd percentile
Skating distance below 50%.

If you want to check other years just change the drop box

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics for skaters including skating speed, skating distance, shot speed, shot location, and zone time.

edge.nhl.com

 

[Ianturnedbull]

Jason Allison is still in the middle of his shootout for Toronto...

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

There are slow forwards and then there is Jordan Staal. He is just too slow to todays game. He has some great moments still, but he is too slow and slows his 4th line too much. Time to retirement. Jordan hasnt been ever a quick player, but nowdays he is just too slow to reach.

And yes, I have watched almost every Canes games in last 5 years.

He's a lot faster than he looks. He's not quick, but once he gets going he can flat out fly because of his ridiculous stride length and power.

 

[LightningStrikes]

So Matthew Tkachuk is pretty slow huh. Surprising to me, thought he was at least average.

 

[Stephen]

Stamkos pre-injury was known as a speedster and his skating was his strongest attribute, but post-Titanium rod Stamkos at the age of 34 being #2 in NHL?

This mainly makes me question the validity of these measurements.

MacKinnon being at the top for most frequent speed bursts does make perfect sense, though. It's his trademark. And in general, the lists for those two attributes look more sensible than the ones for max speed. Hintz being near the top, and probably the best pound-for-pound skater for his size, also matches the eye test.

I wonder what the error margin is on these. The top speed ones likely are wacky, but the burst ones probably cancel out via sample size.

If you look at Stamkos' top speed and then look at the top speed bursts over 20 mph with the bottom of that list at 1.0 times or whatever, you can probably figure he does it like it one time per 60.

 

[Stephen]

So Matthew Tkachuk is pretty slow huh. Surprising to me, thought he was at least average.

Tkachuk is pretty strong positionally and good at reading plays to hit his marks. He's got hustle too but I wouldn't say he was a natural speed demon.

 

[Bender Duster]

Interesting stat but I don’t think it tells the whole story. Some guys look like they’re skating fast all the time, or have to skate fast all the time, because they have no anticipation of where the play is going and are always trying to catch up to where they’re supposed to be.

 

[Skidooboy]

So I checked Ehlers is in 89% percentile in the league this year (his top speed attained).
Speed bursts over 20 mph 73rd percentile
Skating distance below 50%.

If you want to check other years just change the drop box

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics - Skaters

NHL EDGE Puck and Player Tracking Statistics for skaters including skating speed, skating distance, shot speed, shot location, and zone time.

edge.nhl.com

as I said not sure how or what we are collecting the data with... but they call him Fly because he's so fast. ...

if this is straight line game speed ? That's incredibly situational and a player can sit all year without ever really approaching top speed because the opportunity hasn't arissen. it's like the car that wins the race...you NEVER see it's 100% top speed, because the racetrack isn't a salt flat.... 2 very different situations.

How is this data gathered? Is it collected from the sensors in the Jersey? then what's the +/- on the accuracy of the measurement?

because in the speed competitions on skills day etc, Ehlers destroys the competition on the Jets and his times are pretty effing quick.

 

[Golden_Jet]

as I said not sure how or what we are collecting the data with... but they call him Fly because he's so fast. ...

if this is straight line game speed ? That's incredibly situational and a player can sit all year without ever really approaching top speed because the opportunity hasn't arissen. it's like the car that wins the race...you NEVER see it's 100% top speed, because the racetrack isn't a salt flat.... 2 very different situations.

How is this data gathered? Is it collected from the sensors in the Jersey? then what's the +/- on the accuracy of the measurement?

because in the speed competitions on skills day etc, Ehlers destroys the competition on the Jets and his times are pretty effing quick.

I listed the data site in the quote you posted , with Ehlers numbers.

Yes it’s the chip in the jersey, it’s the top speed of the year, also look at the quantity of speed bursts percentile ranking,
Why don’t you read up on the accuracy of the sensors in the jersey and pucks and post it back here for all us.