Player Discussion Fabian Zetterlund traded to Ottawa

[Bileur]

Telling you. He’s waiting for Game 82 to score and that hot streak will extend into the playoffs, just like Bobby Ryan in 2017.

He’s pulling a Gronk and saving them for the playoffs

 

[Tuna99]

Caps going to be 110 million in 2 to 3 years. He scores at a 20 goal pace. Thats not very much money. He is also a good two way player. Finishes all his checks. The goals are going to go in. It takes time. Everyone here hated Amadio and Perron at the start too.

But why overpay him just because?

He’s not making more then $2.75 - he’s not a goal scorer on this team why would you pay for the hockey he played on the worst teams in the NHL and not for the hockey he’s played here.

SJ traded obviously because they were worried about arbitration.and didn’t want to pay him what you suggested.

 

[mysens]

I have a feeling this kid is going to earn his keep either late, down the stretch, or come alive in the first round of playoffs. Something is going to go in.
I predict he gets one this afternoon against Columbus

 

[SlapJack]

Yes if only Amadio got the minutes Z did!

Oh wait, last 14 games since Zetterlund has been here their TOI over that span is 7 seconds different. 189:04 vs 188:57. Zetterlund has had very few looks on the PP.

So sorry, who’s got the bad take again?

Amadio has great chemistry with his line and that chemistry wasn’t built overnight. And Amadio has been great and is a solid two way player. So please don’t use his name in the same sentence as Gaudette it’s insulting to him.

I'm no Gaudette fan and can't wait until he's replaced by an actual 4th liner next year, but all Zetterlund has accomplished thus far with Ottawa is ensuring that whatever line he's on is less effective than it was before. The 4th line is decent with Amadio or even Crookshank, and Stutzle went from a consecutive game point scoring streak to producing like a 3rd liner.

Zetterlund will start cashing in eventually, but he's a middle 6 player at best and might be our least useful player in the starting lineup right now. That includes Gaudette and Crookshank. He looks a bit dumb right now to be honest

 

[zenator]

Zetterlund has been pretty meh so far. Perhaps he's more suited for a team playing an offensive style, as he isn't very good defensively.

Fortunately, the Sens didn't give up much for him, Ostapchuk who has limited upside as a 4th line centre, no offensive ability, and what he can become in a few years can easily be replaced by a relatively low-cost free agent signing. There is the mid to late 2nd round pick, but they generally have about a 15% chance of becoming a regular NHLer.

 

[Boud]

I was at the game yesterday and watching him up close wasn’t better than watching him from far.

He’s not a top 6 player. He’s also not a bottom 6 player. He’s just there. Can’t wait for Tkachuk to be healthy and back and running.

He’s not good defensively. I don’t know where this myth comes from. He can hit and he tries, doesn’t mean he’s good 200ft player.

 

[Micklebot]

I was at the game yesterday and watching him up close wasn’t better than watching him from far.

He’s not a top 6 player. He’s also not a bottom 6 player. He’s just there. Can’t wait for Tkachuk to be healthy and back and running.

Last night was by far his worst game since being moved up from the fourth line, but then again, nobody outside of Forsberg and Sanderson had particularly strong games.

The reality is he's adjusting to new linemates and a new system, for some guys it will take time, I imagine the same people who complained about how bad a fit Amadio was early in the season are the ones complaining about Zetterlund right now.

 

[Boud]

Last night was by far his worst game since being moved up from the fourth line, but then again, nobody outside of Forsberg and Sanderson had particularly strong games.

The reality is he's adjusting to new linemates and a new system, for some guys it will take time, I imagine the same people who complained about how bad a fit Amadio was early in the season are the ones complaining about Zetterlund right now.

Go in my post history I never complained about Amadio. In fact I was one of the few ones who was constantly defending him.

So no this is not a result of me seeing his hockeyDB page and getting mad. The guy doesn’t play a style of hockey that drives the play or that creates either through defending or winning puck battles.

 

[Micklebot]

Go in my post history I never complained about Amadio. In fact I was one of the few ones who was constantly defending him.

Ok, you're the exception, good for you? Still think you are very wrong on Zetterlund, I guess time will tell.

 

[Boud]

Ok, you're the exception, good for you? Still think you are very wrong on Zetterlund, I guess time will tell.

Fair enough. Silver lining is he really can’t do much worse than he’s done so far.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Amadio and FabZ are two different players... Amadio is slotted properly on the 3rd line , checking line that can contribute offense.

FabZ is not slotted properly on his current line; Seriously I am not trying to make Crookshank into more than he is, but I think he would be at least as good as FabZ given the games, icetime and opportunities FabZ has. The thing with FabZ who has scored in the past.. he isn't helping where he is right now . He is filling in and doing an ok job for a player improperly slotted.

He is not a 4th liner, He can't replace Amadio in his current slot and role on the 3rd line.. He just isn't as good

He is a fill in right now and its good to have him slide up with Stu and G when Brady is out but that should change when Brady is back.

How long do we wait on him to be a contributor in the top 6. Why break up any of the top 3 lines with Brady back on the top line to try to fit him in?

Its nice that Zetterlund is getting fan support here. Maybe what he needs to get some more runway to be effective is to start the season here when more experimentation can be afforded to find out where he fits.

 

[Tuna99]

Ok, you're the exception, good for you? Still think you are very wrong on Zetterlund, I guess time will tell.

But based on what? Amadio had a Cup and was a big part of that team - what has Zetterlund done ever in his time in Ottawa to make you think he’s what you think he is and is whatever you’re implying he is - did you even know this players game before he came here? He has 1 point in 14 games. If you’re judging it with your eyes you have a player with a high motor, not a great feel for the game but lots of heart and some
Skill but hasn’t found a productive fit on any line in Ottawa - so do you pay for a depth winger or a top 6 winger as you imply he is?

 

[Manhattan]

@Burrowsaurus You got heckled and rediculed by cowards for being wise early on in this thread.
You deserve some props.

Everyone is born with a brain, not everyone use their brain.

Cheers.

 

[Mr Hat]

Zz

I'm no Gaudette fan and can't wait until he's replaced by an actual 4th liner next year, but all Zetterlund has accomplished thus far with Ottawa is ensuring that whatever line he's on is less effective than it was before. The 4th line is decent with Amadio or even Crookshank, and Stutzle went from a consecutive game point scoring streak to producing like a 3rd liner.

Zetterlund will start cashing in eventually, but he's a middle 6 player at best and might be our least useful player in the starting lineup right now. That includes Gaudette and Crookshank. He looks a bit dumb right now to be honest

I don’t think Zetterlund is a fair scapegoat of Stutzle play. Stu has struggled with many line mates since the hair cut point streak ended. Neither is it solely his fault there isn’t instant chemistry with the line he’s inserted into, sometimes with no practice time between games.

It’s fair to say Zetterlund is a middling player. He is good depth at middle six position and hasn’t fit in yet.

But the fact we have people who think the solution is to sit him after being traded at deadline and the team overall hasn’t played great outside of a few games is crazy. If the team was rolling it would be easier for an outsider to come in and make an immediate impact.

Now is the time to give him reps and find that fit. If he doesn’t then he can go back to the 4th line and be ready to jump in when an injury inevitably comes. That depth is a luxury as it’s been clear for 40 games that Gaudette and Highmore will get obliterated on away ice when we don’t control the matchups, or play like 4 min.

 

[Icelevel]

Brought in to boost goal scoring. 0 so far.
Pretty serious failure up to this point.
Still like him but he HAS to start scoring

 

[Tuna99]

Zz


I don’t think Zetterlund is a fair scapegoat of Stutzle play. Stu has struggled with many line mates since the hair cut point streak ended. Neither is it solely his fault there isn’t instant chemistry with the line he’s inserted into, sometimes with no practice time between games.

It’s fair to say Zetterlund is a middling player. He is good depth at middle six position and hasn’t fit in yet.

But the fact we have people who think the solution is to sit him after being traded at deadline and the team overall hasn’t played great outside of a few games is crazy. If the team was rolling it would be easier for an outsider to come in and make an immediate impact.

Now is the time to give him reps and find that fit. If he doesn’t then he can go back to the 4th line and be ready to jump in when an injury inevitably comes. That depth is a luxury as it’s been clear for 40 games that Gaudette and Highmore will get obliterated on away ice when we don’t control the matchups, or play like 4 min.

Stutzle isn’t easy to play with. That’s why he has such great chemistry with Brady, Brady doesn’t want the puck until he’s in the offensive zone and Timmy gives you surprise pucks in every part of the ice and Brady has such a high IQ and such a great feel for the offensive game and is underrated playmaker - Brady can create offense from any postion in the O zone, Stu gives thise same pucks to Zetterlund and other offensive players and they aren’t ready for them or arent used to being in those parts of the ice and that’s why so many teammates don’t look good with Timmy. Gaudette did but outside of him and Brady theres not a long list of Sens you’d say have natural offensive chemistry with #18

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I remember being told that we should stay patient and not be to quick to judge Zach Sanford as well.

In his 1st 11 games he had 1 assist
His ice time picked up a bit and he scored 5 in his next 5 games including a hat trick -- did we have something?
Then he went 12 games with 1 assist and didn't score again for 15 games
He played 62 games with the Sens in 2021-22 and was moved to the Jets for a 5th round pick where he added 4 assists
With the Sens he had 86 minutes of PP time scoring 1g and 2 assists
He finished the year with 9 goals and 12 assists averaging 14:18 TOI

Since then he had seasons of 16, 29, 11 and 18 games played.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

@Burrowsaurus You got heckled and rediculed by cowards for being wise early on in this thread.
You deserve some props.

Everyone is born with a brain, not everyone use their brain.

Cheers.

Don’t even remember what I said. I still like zetterland. I really like his game. Not a goal scorer tho.

I say a lot of things. Sometimes I’ll be right.

 

[Nova Stutzlia]

Don’t even remember what I said. I still like zetterland. I really like his game. Not a goal scorer tho.

I say a lot of things. Sometimes I’ll be right.

AHA!
So that's your strategy.

 

[Micklebot]

But based on what? Amadio had a Cup and was a big part of that team - what has Zetterlund done ever in his time in Ottawa to make you think he’s what you think he is and is whatever you’re implying he is - did you even know this players game before he came here? He has 1 point in 14 games. If you’re judging it with your eyes you have a player with a high motor, not a great feel for the game but lots of heart and some
Skill but hasn’t found a productive fit on any line in Ottawa - so do you pay for a depth winger or a top 6 winger as you imply he is?

It's interesting how you instantly talk about what Amadio did before coming to Ottawa but with Zetterlund limit it to just his time here, different rules for different players it seems...

Yeah, I knew who Zetterlund was and his game before he came here, I liked him going back to his time in NJ, maybe the fact that you're questioning if I knew his game prior to coming is just you telling on yourself? It doesn't seem like you even have a great read on how he's been playing here tbh.

 

[Sensinitis]

I remember being told that we should stay patient and not be to quick to judge Zach Sanford as well.

In his 1st 11 games he had 1 assist
His ice time picked up a bit and he scored 5 in his next 5 games including a hat trick -- did we have something?
Then he went 12 games with 1 assist and didn't score again for 15 games
He played 62 games with the Sens in 2021-22 and was moved to the Jets for a 5th round pick where he added 4 assists
With the Sens he had 86 minutes of PP time scoring 1g and 2 assists
He finished the year with 9 goals and 12 assists averaging 14:18 TOI

Since then he had seasons of 16, 29, 11 and 18 games played.

The big difference is that Sanford was a project and very unproven whereas Zetterlund has a 24 goal season under his belt and was on pace for another one this year before this drought.

 

[DylanSensFan]

A lot of folks had it out for Amadio early in the season. Then they saw what happened once he jived with Pinto. Then he got injured and people were saying we need him back. I am going to be uber patient with Zetterlund.

 

[bert]

I remember being told that we should stay patient and not be to quick to judge Zach Sanford as well.

In his 1st 11 games he had 1 assist
His ice time picked up a bit and he scored 5 in his next 5 games including a hat trick -- did we have something?
Then he went 12 games with 1 assist and didn't score again for 15 games
He played 62 games with the Sens in 2021-22 and was moved to the Jets for a 5th round pick where he added 4 assists
With the Sens he had 86 minutes of PP time scoring 1g and 2 assists
He finished the year with 9 goals and 12 assists averaging 14:18 TOI

Since then he had seasons of 16, 29, 11 and 18 games played.

Sanford showed no flashes. Had no motor and never scored 20 ever in the league I don't think they are really comparable. Zetterlund could have quite a few more points if stutzle started shooting the puck. Maybe some rebound goals....

 

[bert]

Stutzle isn’t easy to play with. That’s why he has such great chemistry with Brady, Brady doesn’t want the puck until he’s in the offensive zone and Timmy gives you surprise pucks in every part of the ice and Brady has such a high IQ and such a great feel for the offensive game and is underrated playmaker - Brady can create offense from any postion in the O zone, Stu gives thise same pucks to Zetterlund and other offensive players and they aren’t ready for them or arent used to being in those parts of the ice and that’s why so many teammates don’t look good with Timmy. Gaudette did but outside of him and Brady theres not a long list of Sens you’d say have natural offensive chemistry with #18

Watching the game today and deciding that Zetterlund is the issue between him and Stutzle is an interesting perspective.

 

[SensHulk]

This guy will never score again