Player Discussion Fabian Lysell

Your point was, or you're implying his value will somehow go up. His value is in 900K in cap space. A .67 PPG AHL player at 22 is likely a .31 PPG player in the NHL at age 26.

The point was, why try to move Lysell when his value is next to nothing.

As usual, Bruins are thin on RW. If he improves (he's only 22) enough to make the team next season, that 900K will be a positive, not a negative.
 
DeBrusk was a .78 PPG NHL player at 26.
DeBrusk was a .66 PPG AHL player at 19. Lysell is that at 22, which is the age that is used for an NHL translation to 26. The earlier a player is successful in the AHL, the more likely he is to be successful in the NHL.
 
DeBrusk was a .66 PPG AHL player at 19. Lysell is that at 22, which is the age that is used for an NHL translation to 26. The earlier a player is successful in the AHL, the more likely he is to be successful in the NHL.
Lysell was a .68 PPG in his first season in the AHL at 19/20 in 22-23 season. I'm not saying your assessment of the player or value is wrong, but I do think he has the tools to be an NHL player. The Bruins do need scorers though, so I'm not sure if Lysell has much of a future on this team since he's more of a set up guy.
 
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Lysell was a .68 PPG in his first season in the AHL at 19/20 in 22-23 season. I'm not saying your assessment of the player or value is wrong, but I do think he has the tools to be an NHL player. The Bruins do need scorers though, so I'm not sure if Lysell has much of a future on this team since he's more of a set up guy.
I don't know WHAT Lysell is, to be honest.

I also know that playing him on this team (as its currently constructed) isn't doing anything to help me solve that puzzle, either.
 
Lysell was a .68 PPG in his first season in the AHL at 19/20 in 22-23 season. I'm not saying your assessment of the player or value is wrong, but I do think he has the tools to be an NHL player. The Bruins do need scorers though, so I'm not sure if Lysell has much of a future on this team since he's more of a set up guy.
On his side is the Bruins need everything from setup guys to goalscorers, basically anything more than a bunch of 3rd and 4th line guys who are up and down from the AHL like a revolving door.

I know that their in tank mode and Im glad, but right now is a great opportunity to see what he has, by playing him against teams who are battling for playoff spots.Merk, Minten and Poitras as well for that matter, but Im sure were not seeing any of them from here on out.
 
On his side is the Bruins need everything from setup guys to goalscorers, basically anything more than a bunch of 3rd and 4th line guys who are up and down from the AHL like a revolving door.

I know that their in tank mode and Im glad, but right now is a great opportunity to see what he has, by playing him against teams who are battling for playoff spots.Merk, Minten and Poitras as well for that matter, but Im sure were not seeing any of them from here on out.
The way I see it, Lindholm needs to be moved to RW. With Mittelstadt looking like the #2C next season, does Lysell fit with a passing center or on the 3rd line?
 
The way I see it, Lindholm needs to be moved to RW. With Mittelstadt looking like the #2C next season, does Lysell fit with a passing center or on the 3rd line?

Hard to know until we see what the draft and summer brings. Best case we can draft a future #1C that can step right into the league. Does Lindholm become our #3C? Where does Poitras fit? Either way, Lysell needs to play with a shooter and who is that? We currently have two known quantity shooters: Pasta and Geekie. It might be a good idea for Sweeney to look for a goal scorer for the top 6 this summer,
 
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Lysell was a .68 PPG in his first season in the AHL at 19/20 in 22-23 season. I'm not saying your assessment of the player or value is wrong, but I do think he has the tools to be an NHL player. The Bruins do need scorers though, so I'm not sure if Lysell has much of a future on this team since he's more of a set up guy.
Yup, it's a puzzle, started out decent, got better offensively and now this. I would cut bait.
 
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DeBrusk was a .66 PPG AHL player at 19. Lysell is that at 22, which is the age that is used for an NHL translation to 26. The earlier a player is successful in the AHL, the more likely he is to be successful in the NHL.

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DeBrusk was a .66 ppg AHL player at age 20. If he was 19 he wouldn't be allowed to play in the AHL. He turned 20 at the start of his first AHL season.

Lysell was a .67 ppg AHL player at age 19. He was allowed to play in the AHL a year early because he was European.

Lysell was a .89 ppg AHL player at age 20. The Bruins really should have given him a look then (last year). Reward the production, keep his confidence up, plant the seed of hope and give him a look at the league.

This year, he's back down to a .67. I know he struggled for the first month and I don't know if that was related to the concussion he got in the playoffs. He did say in camp that he didn't feel great and was rusty. If you take out his start (4 points in his first 11 games), he's scored 30 points in 40 games.

Still not exceptional, even though he does have exceptional moments.
 
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" No 'experiment' with a homegrown first-round pick should be over after five games. With this lack of patience, Brad Marchand (0-1-1 in his first 19GP, including zero points in final 18 games in 2009-10) would've been in the minors forever."

I would give Lysell more games before making a decision. I'd like to see him get 20 games at the beginning of next season.
 
" No 'experiment' with a homegrown first-round pick should be over after five games. With this lack of patience, Brad Marchand (0-1-1 in his first 19GP, including zero points in final 18 games in 2009-10) would've been in the minors forever."

I would give Lysell more games before making a decision. I'd like to see him get 20 games at the beginning of next season.
Marchand was playing as a 4th liner that first year, and he was good at it.

Lysell's just got to take the next step, so far he hasn't and looks to be in over his head a little. This season is a wash so whatever they think is best for his development is good (even if that means sitting out against some clubs). What happens with his career is really up to him at this point.
 
People need to be patient with Lysell ... game experience is what he needs at the NHL level. It's going to take 200 - 300 games played, so about 3 or 4 seasons in of playing constantly before we see what type of player we truly have. He has the skill, but It will take time for the maturation process to take place, both physically and mentally. ... learning the league, learning the players, and knowing what to expect. Experience equals confidence and confidence equals results.
 
20.

DeBrusk was a .66 ppg AHL player at age 20. If he was 19 he wouldn't be allowed to play in the AHL. He turned 20 at the start of his first AHL season.

Lysell was a .67 ppg AHL player at age 19. He was allowed to play in the AHL a year early because he was European.

Lysell was a .89 ppg AHL player at age 20. The Bruins really should have given him a look then (last year). Reward the production, keep his confidence up, plant the seed of hope and give him a look at the league.

This year, he's back down to a .67. I know he struggled for the first month and I don't know if that was related to the concussion he got in the playoffs. He did say in camp that he didn't feel great and was rusty. If you take out his start (4 points in his first 11 games), he's scored 30 points in 40 games.

Still not exceptional, even though he does have exceptional moments.
Still, we'd like to see accelerating performance, at these development levels, whether they be in juniors, college or minor pro. I know we have to look at why stalls or jumps happen. Normal? Loss of a complimentary teammate(s)? Injury? From 18-22 it would be hopeful to see progressing offense.
 
Im not questioning his skill, hockey sense, speed, etc. I think that its all there and could translate to the NHL level.

Its the ever-present lack of first, second and third effort for me.

I want this guy to work out. I really do. And there is no harm in letting him ride out the rest of the season in this lineup.

Im just left wondering if he really WANTS it. He, yet again, is far too complacent in his showings for a guy who needs to show SOMETHING.

Lastly then Ill shut up- I really dont care for Ray Ferraro, but I thought he kind of hit it on the head the other night when he was calling the game and was asked about Lysell. To much perimeter play for a guy whose trying to make his case.
 

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