Player Discussion Fabian Lysell

[MarchysNoseKnows]

If he isn't able to establish himself on this trial, it is very much unclear that he is here in the fall.

He’s 22. He’s played 3 NHL games. I think we have a bit of a longer leash here than most seem to give.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

He’s 22. He’s played 3 NHL games. I think we have a bit of a longer leash here than most seem to give.

Sure he might get a longer leash. Then again this is an organization that will be looking to make roster changes for next year so that may mean major trades are made and they have limited pieces to be included in deals and he is one of those pieces

 

[goldenblack]

The leash thing is the bust guys we tend to trade too late. We might also want to be able to cash out on busts before anyone else is sure they're also busts.

See: most of our busts

 

[wintersej]

I thought Lysell looked fine last night. I dont think being down in the A is going to do anything for him - he needs reps in the NHL. Speed is very good and i like his puck handling. Vision on offense seems legit - he knows where to be and he looks to create with the puck. I thought he battled along the wall good and helped keep plays alive a few times with hard work and winning the fight for the puck.

In my eyes, the number one thing he has to work on is not giving up on a play when the first chance gets snuffed out. Poitras was that way too at times. It seems like it takes him a couple of seconds to process what just happened before he finds his skating legs again to puck pursue. When he starts bringing the same kind of skating after the puck as he does when he has the puck on his stick, he'll have arrived.

Oh man came to post almost exactly this. NHL is a 2nd, 3rd, 4th effort league. He needs to add those extra efforts.

 

[Olden McGroin]

 

[quietbruinfan]

Watched it, and it comes through that he is not enjoying himself. Either his heart isn't in it, or at the other extreme, he is being severely overcoached. Never thought I would say that.................Maybe I had it backwards all along. We shall see.

 

[Patdud]

The leash thing is the bust guys we tend to trade too late. We might also want to be able to cash out on busts before anyone else is sure they're also busts.

See: most of our busts

not every rookie who ends up being successful gets dropped in a scores consistently regularly. Lots of eventual 2nd line players start with zeros in their first extended look.

 

[Jim]

Watched it, and it comes through that he is not enjoying himself. Either his heart isn't in it, or at the other extreme, he is being severely overcoached. Never thought I would say that.................Maybe I had it backwards all along. We shall see.

I think that’s a cultural thing. You might be right….if he was Canadian or American, I’d say you’re on to something.

 

[Over the volcano]

not every rookie who ends up being successful gets dropped in a scores consistently regularly. Lots of eventual 2nd line players start with zeros in their first extended look.

But they only get an extended look with zero production if they're playing a + NHL game otherwise.

Is he doing that?

 

[McBrom7]

I can’t say I blame him if that’s the case. He gets buried in the minors for years (definitely needed that time), and then when he finally gets his first extended look it’s on a team that actively wants to lose. I don’t know how you can effectively evaluate a player in that situation to be honest.

All I can say is he has gotten some scoring looks and hasn’t converted, but I’ve noticed him way more than some of the other guys. I’d be very much inclined to get rid of the Letteri’s and Beechers of the world before I get rid of Lysell.

Part of me thinks just send him back down and have him play on a team that has something to play for in Providence.

 

[PB37]

He had a shift against Anaheim where he hustled on the backcheck and caught up with the play that made me take notice. I think the kid can hang; he just needs time up playing against NHL competition rather than down in the AHL.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

I can’t say I blame him if that’s the case. He gets buried in the minors for years (definitely needed that time), and then when he finally gets his first extended look it’s on a team that actively wants to lose. I don’t know how you can effectively evaluate a player in that situation to be honest.

All I can say is he has gotten some scoring looks and hasn’t converted, but I’ve noticed him way more than some of the other guys. I’d be very much inclined to get rid of the Letteri’s and Beechers of the world before I get rid of Lysell.

Part of me thinks just send him back down and have him play on a team that has something to play for in Providence.

Letterinis a guy who always shows something to me. He doesn't have the skill to finish. If Lysell matches that effort level then he'll deserve to stay.

I'm just not convinced the skill level is where it needs for Lysell to be to survive with his overall game

 

[mar2kbos]

Lysell has looked decent. Definitely some skill there and can skate. Doesn’t look as lost in system play as he did earlier in his pro career. However still sometimes floats back to the doing his own thang rather than stick to his responsibilities within the system. But he is improving there, so hopefully this cup of tea will accelerate his growth

 

[McBrom7]

Letterinis a guy who always shows something to me. He doesn't have the skill to finish. If Lysell matches that effort level then he'll deserve to stay.

I'm just not convinced the skill level is where it needs for Lysell to be to survive with his overall game

Maybe, maybe not. I think it's virtually impossible to make a decision one way or another from this cup of tea.

I think he would definitely benefit from staying in the US this summer and training as hard as possible here. I wonder if Sweeney and Neely held it against him at all last summer when he went home in the offseason. I remember some noise about that.

 

[Fenian24]

Maybe, maybe not. I think it's virtually impossible to make a decision one way or another from this cup of tea.

I think he would definitely benefit from staying in the US this summer and training as hard as possible here. I wonder if Sweeney and Neely held it against him at all last summer when he went home in the offseason. I remember some noise about that.

If they didn't they should have. This kid has no pulse, yeah he is fast and is accomplishing little with his speed, he's the shiny toy for speed and skill only crowd, he shows no desire, no second effort, no battle for the puck, nothing that will make him successful. I have no problem letting him stay up until the end of the year, he will help with the tank, but Khusnutdinov has shown me a ton more than Lysell. He looks like a trade chip for a middle round pick or a career AHLer with Boston before playing in the KHL or Germany.

If Yzerman stays in Detroit he screams modern day Red Wing.

 

[McBrom7]

If they didn't they should have. This kid has no pulse, yeah he is fast and is accomplishing little with his speed, he's the shiny toy for speed and skill only crowd, he shows no desire, no second effort, no battle for the puck, nothing that will make him successful. I have no problem letting him stay up until the end of the year, he will help with the tank, but Khusnutdinov has shown me a ton more than Lysell. He looks like a trade chip for a middle round pick or a career AHLer with Boston before playing in the KHL or Germany.

If Yzerman stays in Detroit he screams modern day Red Wing.

Bruins would be foolish to make a decision like this unless he asked to be traded. They have no other prospects with his upside in the system. I don't see why they wouldn't give him at least another summer. He's still 22 years old. Would be classic Bruins to just give him away for a mid round pick (that almost surely would be nothing) as Lysell is finally getting NHL looks.

I'm not sure how you came to such a conclusion when he's play less than 5 NHL games.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Bruins would be foolish to make a decision like this unless he asked to be traded. They have no other prospects with his upside in the system. I don't see why they wouldn't give him at least another summer. He's still 22 years old. Would be classic Bruins to just give him away for a mid round pick (that almost surely would be nothing) as Lysell is finally getting NHL looks.

I'm not sure how you came to such a conclusion when he's play less than 5 NHL games.

He’s hated him every single day since we drafted him.

 

[KrejciWinger]

The leash thing is the bust guys we tend to trade too late. We might also want to be able to cash out on busts before anyone else is sure they're also busts.

See: most of our busts

Hold on, i still believe studnicka and vaakanainen will be better than mark stone. Be patient.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Watched it, and it comes through that he is not enjoying himself. Either his heart isn't in it, or at the other extreme, he is being severely overcoached. Never thought I would say that.................Maybe I had it backwards all along. We shall see.

He's a Swede.

They're all like that.

 

[wintersej]

He had a shift against Anaheim where he hustled on the backcheck and caught up with the play that made me take notice. I think the kid can hang; he just needs time up playing against NHL competition rather than down in the AHL.

He is more noticeable than most of the guys on the roster right now. Although it’s mostly an AHL roster right now. I do think there is enough there to be optimistic about him sticking next year. Then the question becomes if he is sticking like Ryan Spooner or actually sticking.

 

[Raleighfern]

how dare he want to go home for a summer! i know that if i came to north america as an 18 year old with probably little to no family around i'd be dying to just stay here all year and not see my family and friends for more than a few weeks a year. i can't believe this young kid....

 

[BruinsJoe]

If they didn't they should have. This kid has no pulse, yeah he is fast and is accomplishing little with his speed, he's the shiny toy for speed and skill only crowd, he shows no desire, no second effort, no battle for the puck, nothing that will make him successful. I have no problem letting him stay up until the end of the year, he will help with the tank, but Khusnutdinov has shown me a ton more than Lysell. He looks like a trade chip for a middle round pick or a career AHLer with Boston before playing in the KHL or Germany.

If Yzerman stays in Detroit he screams modern day Red Wing.

Agree 100% This young guy have no energy, no sign of hard work or hard battles on the ice, really nothing special, another meh prospect!

 

[JoeIsAStud]

how dare he want to go home for a summer! i know that if i came to north america as an 18 year old with probably little to no family around i'd be dying to just stay here all year and not see my family and friends for more than a few weeks a year. i can't believe this young kid....

I don't care where he summers, but he is a professional athlete, and summer is the time he has to build his body and build his game to improve himself as an NHL player. Some people stay in Boston and do this, some people go to Canada and do this, and I am sure there are people who go to Sweden or Finland, etc and do this

I don't know how hard he works in the offseason, but it does seem like it is 2 years in a row where he has shown up at camp behind the other players. It's not the 1960s anymore, all players in all sports are considered to have a 12 month job, that is one of the reasons they get the big money

And this isn't just a Lysell thing. We've seen other young players who never make it because they don't put in the work. They traded away a guy who had a real opportunity at a decent NHL career, who has just been unwilling to do the work necessary

if Lysell is in Boston next fall, he better have worked his tail off on the rink and in the weight room all summer and be in by far the best condition of his life day one of camp

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I don't care where he summers, but he is a professional athlete, and summer is the time he has to build his body and build his game to improve himself as an NHL player. Some people stay in Boston and do this, some people go to Canada and do this, and I am sure there are people who go to Sweden or Finland, etc and do this

I don't know how hard he works in the offseason, but it does seem like it is 2 years in a row where he has shown up at camp behind the other players. It's not the 1960s anymore, all players in all sports are considered to have a 12 month job, that is one of the reasons they get the big money

And this isn't just a Lysell thing. We've seen other young players who never make it because they don't put in the work. They traded away a guy who had a real opportunity at a decent NHL career, who has just been unwilling to do the work necessary

if Lysell is in Boston next fall, he better have worked his tail off on the rink and in the weight room all summer and be in by far the best condition of his life day one of camp

There were no issues with conditioning for Lysell at camp. This all got started because Divver got his panties bunched that he went home one year and it’s become this mythical legend that he sat around on the couch and ate Doritos all summer. It’s bizarre.

 

[Hookslide]

Letterinis a guy who always shows something to me. He doesn't have the skill to finish. If Lysell matches that effort level then he'll deserve to stay.

I'm just not convinced the skill level is where it needs for Lysell to be to survive with his overall game

Well, he is getting his look deservedly so or not, but it should continue, then a decision should be made on his future with the Bruins.