Player Discussion Fabian Lysell

[JoeIsAStud]

Young forwards like a Lysell don’t break into the league competent in all three zones. Not at 22 years old. You can’t wait for him to be that kind of player before putting him in the lineup or he’ll never get there. It’s a blind spot of the Bruins organization.

Pastrnak and Lohrei, and others have shown the Bruins will play special players even if they are still developing their game. I think the problem is there is a big disconnect between what Lysell has shown on the ice as an offensive player, and what fans think Lysell is as an offensive player

 

[Dr Hook]

Pastrnak and Lohrei, and others have shown the Bruins will play special players even if they are still developing their game. I think the problem is there is a big disconnect between what Lysell has shown on the ice as an offensive player, and what fans think Lysell is as an offensive player

He may well not be talented enough overall to get that type of consideration, though by all accounts, he is the most pure skilled prospect the B's have. I also wonder what it might do to a prospect like him confidence-wise to have your play style completely re-shaped from what got you drafted in the first place. I am sure some are fine with it (like Poitras seems to be), but I wouldn't expect every prospect to show well if they are constantly playing under this type of scrutiny. As in, not taking a shot or making a play because they are worried they might get out of position to backcheck or something. Just a thought.

 

[Hookslide]

Yes the mantra that everyone has to be a 200 ft player and be Bergeron really is not fair to upcoming prospects. You take them for their strengths, build confidence and let them excel on the ice.
Too many past prospects have fallen into this Bruins trap.
Lysell and Merkilov are talents and need to be given every opportunity to succeed. Time to develop younger players and not play older AHL has bins.

I had watched Lysell, when he was playing, in some international tournaments, and was excited about him, but when you read and hear that he was not willing to stay here offseason and work here and some other negative talk about him, but positive outlook cooled, now maybe the approach now should be to give him a chance and get a good look at him, and maybe he will understand what it takes to make it. I agree 200 ft players, and Bergeron models are not fair for young players to be measured by, but work ethic is, and I think Pasta was a perfect example of that, he was sent down, and had healthy scratches, but when coaching and management explained to him what they wanted and expected from him he took the right approach, worked hard to get stronger and bigger, did not pout, but put the work in. That is the attitude Lysell needs to take. I do think now is the time to give this kid a serious look and a good shot to show and prove what he has.

 

[KnightofBoston]

As I've understood it (and I could be wrong!), his biggest 'flaw' has been not using his teammates as he should at times, not that he won't muck and grind along the boards. The Bruins org may well think he needs to be a more complete 200 foot player, but they always think that and it's been problematic in their development of certain types of prospects for some time now.

being competent in all three zones goes hand to hand with using your teammates, so yes

 

[Dr Hook]

being competent in all three zones goes hand to hand with using your teammates, so yes

Sorry, disagree that it means the same thing.

 

[PB37]

Mitch Marner is still allergic to going into a corner of the rink. Plenty of videos highlighting this.

I think Lysell's playstyle is needed. Speed, creativity, and a little razzle dazzle. Let's see what he's got and if he can help produce goals and offensive pressure.

 

[I am Bettman]

I had watched Lysell, when he was playing, in some international tournaments, and was excited about him, but when you read and hear that he was not willing to stay here offseason and work here and some other negative talk about him, but positive outlook cooled, now maybe the approach now should be to give him a chance and get a good look at him, and maybe he will understand what it takes to make it. I agree 200 ft players, and Bergeron models are not fair for young players to be measured by, but work ethic is, and I think Pasta was a perfect example of that, he was sent down, and had healthy scratches, but when coaching and management explained to him what they wanted and expected from him he took the right approach, worked hard to get stronger and bigger, did not pout, but put the work in. That is the attitude Lysell needs to take. I do think now is the time to give this kid a serious look and a good shot to show and prove what he has.

Hasn’t he been doing exactly that by compromising some offensive production to work on his 200 ft game? I don’t understand what he’s supposed to do when people dislike him for having defensive holes and also dislike him for compromising offense to work on those deficiencies.

 

[Hookslide]

Hasn’t he been doing exactly that by compromising some offensive production to work on his 200 ft game? I don’t understand what he’s supposed to do when people dislike him for having defensive holes and also dislike him for compromising offense to work on those deficiencies.

Hey, am not there but there was definitely an issue, and hopefully he has worked it out, but it was stated that he was not playing a well-rounded game, and maybe it sunk in what they wanted and now he is being rewarded, let's hope that is the case, and wish the kid the best.........if he doesn't workout move on from him.

 

[Mione134]

Hasn’t he been doing exactly that by compromising some offensive production to work on his 200 ft game? I don’t understand what he’s supposed to do when people dislike him for having defensive holes and also dislike him for compromising offense to work on those deficiencies.

He's definitely been working on his 200ft game.

But not every single player has to play like that. I think he's very talented and the Bruins need his speed and talent. They gotta give him a long look.

 

[KnightofBoston]

Sorry, disagree that it means the same thing.

you can't possibly be competent in all three zones if you don't use your teammates because youll never be able to transition the puck in all three zones. Unless you're bobby orr or conor mcdavid

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Hey, am not there but there was definitely an issue, and hopefully he has worked it out, but it was stated that he was not playing a well-rounded game, and maybe it sunk in what they wanted and now he is being rewarded, let's hope that is the case, and wish the kid the best.........if he doesn't workout move on from him.

it was stated by Allred and especially Divver, who for some reason has a giant stick up his ass about this kid. Every tweet and every podcast appearance just drips with his contempt over Lysell. And then that stuff gets reported here as fact when it’s one cranky old Patrick Brown loving man’s opinion.

 

[The National]

Hasn’t he been doing exactly that by compromising some offensive production to work on his 200 ft game? I don’t understand what he’s supposed to do when people dislike him for having defensive holes and also dislike him for compromising offense to work on those deficiencies.

Classic Bruins development. Turn every guy into Danny Paille rather than focusing most on what made you draft him that high. Not every player has to be a 200ft 2-way player, teams win every year with some defensive liabilities on their rosters as long as they can outweigh it offensively.

 

[Hookslide]

it was stated by Allred and especially Divver, who for some reason has a giant stick up his ass about this kid. Every tweet and every podcast appearance just drips with his contempt over Lysell. And then that stuff gets reported here as fact when it’s one cranky old Patrick Brown loving man’s opinion.

Well, he is getting his chance now, so it is up to him to run with it, hope it works out for the kid but we shall see. Like I said, when I first seen him play, I was excited about him, so I my initial reaction was right.

 

[Guelph Bruin]

My $0.02 ..can't possibly be worse than Beecher...

 

[Blowfish]

I stayed up to watch Fabian.

 

[weaponomega]

Glad we had Patrick Brown in there. He really helped in that 5-1 loss.

 

[HumBucker]

Just play the kid already! He can't possibly be the worst option on this roster.

 

[Hookslide]

I stayed up to watch Fabian.

How did he look, I guess much like Elias Lindholm, invisible, but at least Lysell had an excuse he didn't play.

 

[PB37]

I thought Lysell looked fine last night. I dont think being down in the A is going to do anything for him - he needs reps in the NHL. Speed is very good and i like his puck handling. Vision on offense seems legit - he knows where to be and he looks to create with the puck. I thought he battled along the wall good and helped keep plays alive a few times with hard work and winning the fight for the puck.

In my eyes, the number one thing he has to work on is not giving up on a play when the first chance gets snuffed out. Poitras was that way too at times. It seems like it takes him a couple of seconds to process what just happened before he finds his skating legs again to puck pursue. When he starts bringing the same kind of skating after the puck as he does when he has the puck on his stick, he'll have arrived.

 

[BronxBruin]

I thought Lysell looked fine last night. I dont think being down in the A is going to do anything for him - he needs reps in the NHL. Speed is very good and i like his puck handling. Vision on offense seems legit - he knows where to be and he looks to create with the puck. I thought he battled along the wall good and helped keep plays alive a few times with hard work and winning the fight for the puck.

In my eyes, the number one thing he has to work on is not giving up on a play when the first chance gets snuffed out. Poitras was that way too at times. It seems like it takes him a couple of seconds to process what just happened before he finds his skating legs again to puck pursue. When he starts bringing the same kind of skating after the puck as he does when he has the puck on his stick, he'll have arrived.

Having watched most of his games in Providence, he seemed a little jittery/nervous with the puck. He is usually pretty calm and willing to hang onto the puck to make a play but there were times where it looked like he was in a rush to get it off his stick. This resulted in him shooting the puck into a defender's skates a couple different times. Hopefully he'll settle down as the games go on (assuming he actually gets to stick around this time). Nonetheless I thought he played decently overall (certainly better than most of the other skaters).

 

[Colt.45Orr]

I made the unfortunate choice of staying up last night to watch, but Lysell had some effective and noticeable shifts.

It will be interesting to see how he performs on back-to-back nights.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

Should keep him up. Seemed he was the only guy trying to get pucks to the net. That 2nd goal he had a nice play to keep the puck alive, bummer he didn't get an assist.

My only issue is he hangs out very high on the blueline a lot

 

[goldenblack]

We agree that he gets one more trial probably next year if this isn't the one? Can't be much longer than that?

I'd keep him up all year now...

 

[Number8]

you can't possibly be competent in all three zones if you don't use your teammates because youll never be able to transition the puck in all three zones. Unless you're bobby orr or conor mcdavid

Coach, what's a game plan for the big one?

Give it to Bobby.

OK, then what do we do?

Enjoy the show.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

We agree that he gets one more trial probably next year if this isn't the one? Can't be much longer than that?

I'd keep him up all year now...

If he isn't able to establish himself on this trial, it is very much unclear that he is here in the fall.