Player Discussion Fabian Lysell

[22Brad Park]

I still keep Brazeau. Freddy, Coyle, I'll drive from Canada to take 'em to the airport.

But yeah, team needs to get some youth, skill & speed injected into this lineup. Hopefully Don grows a pair and calls up Merk & Lysell.

Freddy to me if he plays like he did last night is a better player then Brasseau by a mile.Have to trade him though if not signed

 

[Dr Hook]

This is the player you drafted. If you wanted PJ Axelson, don't draft this player in the first place. Nothing about this player at 17/18 suggested he was going to be a guy that plays in the trenches or has a strong defensive mistake free game.

This x100. And the same could be said about Merk as a college FA signing. We've heard how he can't play center in the NHL for the Bruins because he is too small, isn't hard enough on pucks down low etc. Well what the hell did they sign him for then?

 

[BruinDust]

This x100. And the same could be said about Merk as a college FA signing. We've heard how he can't play center in the NHL for the Bruins because he is too small, isn't hard enough on pucks down low etc. Well what the hell did they sign him for then?

Which makes using Poitras in the middle right now even more befuddling. You could make the exact same statement about him right now (although I think he'll be OK as a center eventually).

 

[22Brad Park]

Which makes using Poitras in the middle right now even more befuddling. You could make the exact same statement about him right now (although I think he'll be OK as a center eventually).

Shows Bruins desperation for centre help

 

[Dr Hook]

Which makes using Poitras in the middle right now even more befuddling. You could make the exact same statement about him right now (although I think he'll be OK as a center eventually).

That actually may be the reason Merk isn't getting anywhere here now that you mention it. The tolerance for two centers like that might be not be there.

 

[Patdud]

i think most fans would like to see lysell get an extended look, sink or swim.
but this is also the weekend viewpoint from mark divver, who watches the guy every night.
seems like he either lacks IQ or just wants to do things his way. guess we'll see how that goes.


— Fabian Lysell’s speed was evident on Sunday, as it often is, but you can’t overlook the same mistakes being repeated, game in and game out. The turnovers, the 1 on 3 entries, getting pushed aside by bigger players, too much time on the perimeter instead of inside.

Mark is a giant bag of hot air

 

[BruinDust]

i think most fans would like to see lysell get an extended look, sink or swim.
but this is also the weekend viewpoint from mark divver, who watches the guy every night.
seems like he either lacks IQ or just wants to do things his way. guess we'll see how that goes.


— Fabian Lysell’s speed was evident on Sunday, as it often is, but you can’t overlook the same mistakes being repeated, game in and game out. The turnovers, the 1 on 3 entries, getting pushed aside by bigger players, too much time on the perimeter instead of inside.

I'd argue the Bruins could use a player who can keep possession on the perimeter. Spend more time in the offensive zone, less time back-peddling and defending. I'd argue the parent club tries to force too much of the game to the inside of the offensive zone now.

 

[Patdud]

Agreed. I believe a B's coach left a fairly regular player off the Outdoor game roster, for a game in their home town. Was it Krug in Michigan ? Perhaps I'm mistaken.

Anders Bjork, ND 2019 WC. This place had an aneurism, over f***ing Anders Bjork.

And Cassidy didn't scratch him, Sweeny had him in the AHL where he belonged.

 

[HHHH]

I am definitely in the "let the kids play" camp at this point, see what Lysell and Merkulov can do with a string of games.

I have not seen Providence enough to see if there are others who would warrant a look; Farinacci? Brunet?

 

[Dr Hook]

I'd argue the Bruins could use a player who can keep possession on the perimeter. Spend more time in the offensive zone, less time back-peddling and defending. I'd argue the parent club tries to force too much of the game to the inside of the offensive zone now.

They all have to be 200 foot players and 'hard on pucks' and muck and grind. At least, they do when they are prospects and young players. Maybe having one Pastrnak type on the team almost makes Cam's head explode as it is

 

[PB37]

I am definitely in the "let the kids play" camp at this point, see what Lysell and Merkulov can do with a string of games.

I have not seen Providence enough to see if there are others who would warrant a look; Farinacci? Brunet?

I'm not a Merkulov guy, but I have to agree that he's the best young option at LW the Bruins have in the minors ( I don't see him as a center in the NHL ). With the uncertainty with Marchand, the Bruins need to see what they have with him or package him in a deal.

 

[BruinDust]

They all have to be 200 foot players and 'hard on pucks' and muck and grind. At least, they do when they are prospects and young players. Maybe having one Pastrnak type on the team almost makes Cam's head explode as it is

I was listening to Pierre Lebrun yesterday and he was talking to Sweeney about who he will replace Pietrangelo with and Sweeney mentioned to him that the player would be someone who would need to accept a role lower in the line-up than what Pietrangelo was pegged to do. Lebrun speculated that maybe a Chris Tanev would replace Pietrangelo instead of just going with one of the top D-men they left off the roster. They already have Parayko (who I wanted on the team) but why wouldn't they bring a more well rounded player than a defensive specialist like Tanev? What if other injuries happen to their more skilled guys during the tournament? Why not a Bouchard, Weegar, or a Dobson? It's not like they are PP specialist, all play top minutes.

 

[Dr Hook]

I'm not a Merkulov guy, but I have to agree that he's the best young option at LW the Bruins have in the minors ( I don't see him as a center in the NHL ). With the uncertainty with Marchand, the Bruins need to see what they have with him or package him in a deal.

Why not? He's a center by trade and was one when the Bruins signed after four years of D1 hockey. They didn't spend a draft pick or an asset to get him, so why bother with it if he can't play center in the NHL?

 

[Blowfish]

Just call him up already...enough with the Browns Vins McMuffins and Jones s. Don't care about the reasons. Shove the unproductive players to the 4th line.

 

[mar2kbos]

It just feels like to me that Sweeney has already decided he will trade him at the deadline which is why he doesn’t care to bring him up. More worried his NHL time would damage his stock and rather keep the allure of potential.

 

[PB37]

Why not? He's a center by trade and was one when the Bruins signed after four years of D1 hockey. They didn't spend a draft pick or an asset to get him, so why bother with it if he can't play center in the NHL?

I just think that's where he would best fit with his skillset. He's not that fleet of foot and with his lack of size and and not being very physical, he's not going to cover the space needed to play center. Bruins had him primarily on the wing his last callup. I personally don't think he has what it takes to make it in the NHL on a regular basis.

 

[22Brad Park]

I was listening to Pierre Lebrun yesterday and he was talking to Sweeney about who he will replace Pietrangelo with and Sweeney mentioned to him that the player would be someone who would need to accept a role lower in the line-up than what Pietrangelo was pegged to do. Lebrun speculated that maybe a Chris Tanev would replace Pietrangelo instead of just going with one of the top D-men they left off the roster. They already have Parayko (who I wanted on the team) but why wouldn't they bring a more well rounded player than a defensive specialist like Tanev? What if other injuries happen to their more skilled guys during the tournament? Why not a Bouchard, Weegar, or a Dobson? It's not like they are PP specialist, all play top minutes.

My best friend is a die hard Oiler fan & he hates Bouchard calling him a turnover machine.The Oiler site here berates him weekly.Soon time to pay him and my buddy keeps telling me they are not doing that.Can't wait till they hand him 9 or 10 million

 

[Dr Hook]

I just think that's where he would best fit with his skillset. He's not that fleet of foot and with his lack of size and and not being very physical, he's not going to cover the space needed to play center. Bruins had him primarily on the wing his last callup. I personally don't think he has what it takes to make it in the NHL on a regular basis.

That's fair, though I would say that is also the Bruins way of doing center at the present time, and there is no reason they have to operate that way. Poitras is probably not going to be that type of center, lack of size, not very physical, grinding down low. The Bruins need to adapt what they do to the players they have, not constantly try to shoehorn guys, especially young players, into roles and activities they are not suited for.

But okay on Merk, he may never be an NHL regular, but I would sure love the Bruins to give him a good long look and see what he can do if used properly before moving on.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

This x100. And the same could be said about Merk as a college FA signing. We've heard how he can't play center in the NHL for the Bruins because he is too small, isn't hard enough on pucks down low etc. Well what the hell did they sign him for then?

Maybe they thought he would work to develop his game at center, and do what was required to get stronger, play harder, earn how to be even adequate at FO's, etc. Or maybe they thought he could learn to play LW.

 

[PB37]

That's fair, though I would say that is also the Bruins way of doing center at the present time, and there is no reason they have to operate that way. Poitras is probably not going to be that type of center, lack of size, not very physical, grinding down low. The Bruins need to adapt what they do to the players they have, not constantly try to shoehorn guys, especially young players, into roles and activities they are not suited for.

But okay on Merk, he may never be an NHL regular, but I would sure love the Bruins to give him a good long look and see what he can do if used properly before moving on.

With Poitras, he has the willingness to battle that Merkulov has not really shown in his brief stint up in Boston. He'll fight thru checks, unafraid to take contact ( sometimes to his own detriment ) to make a play. He's not fast but he's crafty and has enough quickness to make it work. Merkulov is 24 and most likely is what he is at this point. He can rip the puck and collect points in the AHL, which is what makes him intriguing.

 

[Dr Hook]

Maybe they thought he would work to develop his game at center, and do what was required to get stronger, play harder, earn how to be even adequate at FO's, etc. Or maybe they thought he could learn to play LW.

So in other words, they didn't really like the player he was and needed him to be something else. Again, why sign him, then? I get that ethic more when you spend a draft pick or acquire a player in a deal. Merk has talent. He's a PPG player in the AHL against physically strong players that go hard playing as a center. They may as well see what he can do in the NHL in his natural position. But I guess the Bruins are loaded with skill and scoring talent up and down the lineup so it's not as if they need anyone like that to come up from Providence.

 

[The Hockey Tonk Man]

I'd argue the Bruins could use a player who can keep possession on the perimeter. Spend more time in the offensive zone, less time back-peddling and defending. I'd argue the parent club tries to force too much of the game to the inside of the offensive zone now.

I don't think you'd have to argue that as everyone should agree on it haha.

Constantly trying to pass through 3 guys or pass it to no one in front of the net. Pressure anyone on the PP and they'll cough the puck up. It's sad to watch.

 

[Grimey]

He's being held to a standard the NHL players aren't even fulfilling on a nightly basis.

Gonna be tough for Lysell to get another chance after that goal scoring clinic the Bruins’ regulars put on last night vs arguably the greatest team of this century. I’m almost getting sick of watching them out-score their own mistakes at this point.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Why not? He's a center by trade and was one when the Bruins signed after four years of D1 hockey. They didn't spend a draft pick or an asset to get him, so why bother with it if he can't play center in the NHL?

He played 1 year D1 at Ohio St.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

So in other words, they didn't really like the player he was and needed him to be something else. Again, why sign him, then? I get that ethic more when you spend a draft pick or acquire a player in a deal. Merk has talent. He's a PPG player in the AHL against physically strong players that go hard playing as a center. They may as well see what he can do in the NHL in his natural position. But I guess the Bruins are loaded with skill and scoring talent up and down the lineup so it's not as if they need anyone like that to come up from Providence.

Every player who is ever drafted or sign is flawed and needs to become something more to make it in the NHL (OK, not Sid Crosby)

You draft/sign a player because they have a skillset and you believe they can augment that skillset and become well rounded players