FA/Trade Thread 14-15 Season V.17 - Bored, Now. Make another Trade Happen, Nonis!

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The Winter Soldier

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Would be a good trade for us. As crappy as Richards is he would make a good mentor methinks. Plus when we move out some other contracts, the cap space won't be as necessary

Richards, the guy that doesn't work out in the summer? Yeah I guess he would fit in with the Leafs.
 

Maplebeasts

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Richards, the guy that doesn't work out in the summer? Yeah I guess he would fit in with the Leafs.

I was thinking more along the lines of a veteran with cup rings. I completely forgot about that though. If he TRULY doesn't stay in shape over the summer than no he would not be a good mentor for a youth
 

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I was thinking more along the lines of a veteran with cup rings. I completely forgot about that though. If he TRULY doesn't stay in shape over the summer than no he would not be a good mentor for a youth

i always forget that too. (sigh)
 

The Winter Soldier

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I was thinking more along the lines of a veteran with cup rings. I completely forgot about that though. If he TRULY doesn't stay in shape over the summer than no he would not be a good mentor for a youth

I have always liked Mike Richards as a player, but he has fallen off quite a bit for us to take on that contract. For us to even take him on, I would demand a 1st rd pick and a Adrian Kempe come our way. Plus he does have a rep for partying and not working hard in the off season. The Mike Richards that won the gold medal, I could live with those things. Now, it's hard to when you have that contract to deal with. Really hard to like this deal. But it's Nonis and co. You never know.
 

Maplebeasts

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I have always liked Mike Richards as a player, but he has fallen off quite a bit for us to take on that contract. For us to even take him on, I would demand a 1st rd pick and a Adrian Kempe come our way. Plus he does have a rep for partying and not working hard in the off season. The Mike Richards that won the gold medal, I could live with those things. Now, it's hard to when you that contract to deal with. Really hard to like this deal. But it's Nonis and co. You never know.

I get what you mean. I would definitely ask for a lot of futures for Dion if we take back Richards.
 

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If Toffoli + a 1st is coming back, I'll take richards
that is ALL.

That's asking too much.

He's a young, top 6 forward, within control for the foreseeable future. He is the type L.A needs more off.

No way they're dealing him along with a 1st. They've already waived Richards so he's off the cap. They can keep him there for as long as they like until they get an offer.
 

GoodNewfieBoy

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Trade Destination Possibilities for Kessel/Phaneuf- Offseaon

Note that when I lump Kessel and Phaneuf together, I don’t mean that they can both be moved to the same team. But one or the other could be.

Anaheim (Phaneuf)
Reason being: Ducks shaving off almost 10 million dollars in cap, straight off their defence. Would complement a really nice top 4 with Fowler, Vatanen and Lindholm. However, could just resign Beauchemin at a fraction of the cost. This scenario looks juicier if Ducks get eliminated early.

Buffalo (Kessel/Phaneuf)
Reason being: Does Tim Murray want to accelerate his rebuild? How does a line of Kane-McEichel-Kessel look? Phaneuf would provide some stability for Zadarov and Ristolainen and would form a nice top 4 with Gorges. Cap space not an issue.

Calgary (Kessel)
Reason being: Maybe they want to speed things up a little bit with a lot of promising young players. Kessel could provide them with an elite top scorer, and with Monahan, would form an amazing 1-2 punch. What does Johnny Hockey-Monahan-Kessel look like? Cap space not an issue.

Carolina (Phaneuf)
Reason being: Carolina is in a weird situation. They have a lot of expensive veterans and not a strong system. So they may have to keep going for it if they don’t try to rebuild. They have a terrible D, but maybe if they slide Phaneuf next to Faulk, they can start from there. Space would be tight, but it wouldn’t take much creativity to pull off.

Colorado (Kessel/Phaneuf)
Reason being: 10 million coming off the books. Could also trade some pieces to make room. Kessel would fit in amazing with their forwards. On defense, they have Tyson Barrie and Erik Johnson and that’s it. Phaneuf would fit in nice here.

Dallas (Kessel/Phaneuf)
Reason being: Imagine Seguin and Kessel on the same team :p. They have money coming off the books. Could use Kessel, not a pressing issue though. Their D isn’t very good, so that’s why Phaneuf could fit in there.

Edmonton (Kessel/ Phaneuf)
Reason being: Anything is possible with Edmonton, but they might just stay painstakingly patient.

Florida (Kessel/Phaneuf)
Reason being: If the Panthers want to make a push for the playoffs, they could add either of these players. Have the space, with money coming off the books, to do so.

Minnesota (Phaneuf)
Reason being: They have a lot of talent and money tied up in their forward ranks. Their D could use some improvement. Maybe an ideal D partner (as he would be with anyone, I guess) for Phaneuf is Suter. Would form a nice top 3 with Brodin. Would have to squeeze him in. But as with Carolina, Leafs can always take a bit of salary back.

New Jersey?
I have no idea what’s going on there. I think Lou was abducted by aliens at some point in the last couple of years.

New York Islanders (Kessel/Phaneuf)
Reason being: Garth Snow could push the accelerator a bit if he wants. He does have a franchise centerman in Tavares. Johnny T and Kessel would be pretty slick. Phaneuf could be very attractive to them if they can’t resign Boychuk. And even if they could, Phaneuf-Boychuk-Leddy-Hamonic-Reinhart would be a great D.

Washington (Phaneuf)
Reason being: If they are looking for a replacement for Green, Phaneuf could be their man. Don’t know how smart their GM would be though to tie up Phaneuf, Orpik and Niskanen to long term contracts.
 

Kurisu

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That's asking too much.

He's a young, top 6 forward, within control for the foreseeable future. He is the type L.A needs more off.

No way they're dealing him along with a 1st. They've already waived Richards so he's off the cap. They can keep him there for as long as they like until they get an offer.

He's still on their payroll, the only get a little savings (900000) I believe my waiving him.
 

hockeywiz542

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According to Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun, there seems to be an assumption amongst NHL executives that current Toronto Maple Leafs GM Dave Nonis days are in fact numbered.

The associates of Nonis — and there are many in the hockey world who trust him and believe in him — are pushing him to be active, forceful and aggressive in what could be his final days as Leafs GM.

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/02/14/is-nonis-a-dead-man-walking-and-will-that-change-his-approach

TORONTO - A close hockey friend has described Dave Nonis as a “dead man walking” and has urged the Maple Leafs general manager to go down swinging if he’s going to be fired in Toronto.

The associates of Nonis — and there are many in the hockey world who trust him and believe in him — are pushing him to be active, forceful and aggressive in what could be his final days as Leafs GM.

While no one from the Leafs, not CEO Tim Leiweke or president Brendan Shanahan, has given any indication that Nonis will be let go with three years remaining on his contract, there seems to be an assumption amongst NHL executives that his days are in fact numbered.

For the record, Shanahan has never said anything but positive things about Nonis and his relationship with him. But in an interview with Leiweke about the Leafs’ future earlier this week, he referenced Shanahan often and never mentioned Nonis’ name once.

The Leafs are expected to make at least five deals by the March 2 deadline and none of those are likely to include Phil Kessel or captain Dion Phaneuf, who will be marketed more forcefully once the season ends. Injuries to Joffrey Lupul and Cody Franson have complicated trading matters for Nonis, whose history is mostly conservative at deadline time.

But his friends are urging him to get rid of his patient ways and go out in a blaze of trading glory, if that is at all possible.

The difficulty in trading Kessel is as multi-layered: 1) there are only eight teams they can deal him to, as based on his contract; 2) Quite likely, the teams that want him at all may not be on his list; 3) The clubs with interest must have salary cap room and a willingness to spend, otherwise it doesn’t work; 4) The history of trading this quality of player works against the Leafs. They need to find a deal like Philadelphia found in moving Jeff Carter for essentially Jakub Vorachek ... Jonathan Bernier wants a long-term contract from the Leafs. The Leafs would like to go short-term, like one year. And the surprise, suddenly, is it has become apparent there’s a divide between the Leafs and their goalie, Bernier has become an object of trade interest from teams calling Toronto.
 

CerebralDevil

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I don't believe anything Simmons says. Dreger and him feed off each other and are becoming the Eklunds of hockey insiders.
 

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That's asking too much.

He's a young, top 6 forward, within control for the foreseeable future. He is the type L.A needs more off.

No way they're dealing him along with a 1st. They've already waived Richards so he's off the cap. They can keep him there for as long as they like until they get an offer.

He is not off the cap. You can send him to the ECHL and he would still be on the cap except for $900 and some thousand. The rules changed with the last players contract.
 

Antropovsky

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According to Steve Simmons of the Toronto Sun, there seems to be an assumption amongst NHL executives that current Toronto Maple Leafs GM Dave Nonis days are in fact numbered.

The associates of Nonis — and there are many in the hockey world who trust him and believe in him — are pushing him to be active, forceful and aggressive in what could be his final days as Leafs GM.

http://www.torontosun.com/2015/02/14/is-nonis-a-dead-man-walking-and-will-that-change-his-approach



... Such a stupid article. I imagine a shawshank redemption type scene with nonis locking his office door, stuffing the fax machine with documents sending players away in trades, while shanahan, mark hunter and Dubas are standing at the door banging, hollering for the security guards to bring the keys before too much damage is done.

Any trade that is made, will have to go through a line of people... It sounds cool and all, going out in a blaze of glory...... But shanahan wont let it happen, nonis is his puppet now.

Stupid article to even suggest it
 
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