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F Sasha Pastujov- San Diego Gulls, AHL (2021, 66th, ANA)

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Frolov 6'3 said:
Just be real here.

How about those truckload of hockey gems according to HF that were not gems after all. I think that list is longer…..a lot longer.

We only notice the examples you provide.
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I meant truly and obviously special. The examples I gave met the criteria, the track record was there.

Caufield, Debrincat and Kucherov had historic achievements as amateur players. I'm not referring to the Bobby Brinks and Kailer Yamamotos.

Pastujov's stats may not be quite so gaudy, but when you consider how clutch his points are, I have him in that Debrincat type category.
 
I see Troy Terry with better hands with some Jason Robertson sprinkled in.
 
Beesfan said:
I meant truly and obviously special. The examples I gave met the criteria, the track record was there.

Caufield, Debrincat and Kucherov had historic achievements as amateur players. I'm not referring to the Bobby Brinks and Kailer Yamamotos.

Pastujov's stats may not be quite so gaudy, but when you consider how clutch his points are, I have him in that Debrincat type category.
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The track records were there with many other busts too that scouts/teams rightfully didnt pick.

Caufield was btw still drafted 14th overall and almost all of that draft class still need to hit NHL surface.

Drafting is no exact science. I think its nitpicking.

There will always be prospects who seem to be obvious choices but so were many others who didnt pan out.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Great pick by Anaheim, good value--arguably 1st round talent with some warts that could prevent him from being anything...that's excellent for a 3rd rounder imo.
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Yeah I would of been happy with him at pick #34. No doubt Sasha has the puck skills, vision and offensive IQ to be a top-6/#1PP guy. Not so much play style but I see some similarities to Kaliyev. Both have elite offensive skills but slid because of skating and motor/pace concerns, also both Russian descent Americans so theres also that.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
I don't know how you're sure that Pastujov won't be able to use his frame to protect the puck as he moves to higher levels. It's purely speculative. What we can project in that area is that his size will be no worse than average, but I guess it's all speculation, so we'll see if you're right or I'm right.

As to comparing him to Benson, I think Benson was more of an all-around player coming out of junior. He didn't have the offensive potential that Pastujov did, even though he scored a lot in junior. He wasn't a great skater, which they have in common. Aside from that, I don't think it's a great comparison, but maybe you're right. We'll see. I personally think Pastujov will be a very good scorer in the NHL.
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Pastujov scouting report and from what I seen... sounds like Krejci. Strong offensive instincts, understands the puzzle on the ice, good sturdy body, good iq, but wont be rushed, not a fast skater

I found that teams placed a premium in skating/pace in earlier rounds of the draft. Winterton went ahead of Harrison, though closely ranked (or even Winterton ranked lower).

Wyat Johnston ahead of Pastujov. Though Pastujov is considered a more advanced offensive player
 
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Haven't watched a lot of tape on Pastujov--my only viewings of significance were at the u-18 tournament in Texas--but would David Perron be a reasonable comparison? Both are toolsy, offensive-minded wingers with above average IQs and shots but mobility and defensive shortcomings.
 
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Watched all the footage on him I could find and watched the last 2 USA games today and Saturday.... I scouted this draft as much as I could because my team had the #3 pick. He plays pretty similar to Guenther but without the great skating. They play very similar.
 
KickHisAssZegrass said:
Yeah I would of been happy with him at pick #34. No doubt Sasha has the puck skills, vision and offensive IQ to be a top-6/#1PP guy. Not so much play style but I see some similarities to Kaliyev. Both have elite offensive skills but slid because of skating and motor/pace concerns, also both Russian descent Americans so theres also that.
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Yeah he's the Ducks version of Kaliyev.
 
Guelph storm have his rights. Don't really know who else he'll be playing with there, but it makes the OHL that much more exciting so I'm happy for it.
 
Is his skating that bad that it knocked him all the way back to the third round? I mentioned it here before, I could’ve swore I read somewhere that he was a for sure first rounder.
 
Smirnov2Chistov said:
Is his skating that bad that it knocked him all the way back to the third round? I mentioned it here before, I could’ve swore I read somewhere that he was a for sure first rounder.
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I had him in the first half of round one. His skating is not great, but he has pretty well every other tool you could want in spades. I also don't see anything in his stride that screams "unfixable" to me.
 
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Smirnov2Chistov said:
Is his skating that bad that it knocked him all the way back to the third round? I mentioned it here before, I could’ve swore I read somewhere that he was a for sure first rounder.
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It’s bad and he plays at such a slow pace that it makes it that much worse. He’s also bad defensively. He’s not Point, but he may be Robertson. I don’t think his skating should’ve dropped him to the third round, but it likely did.
 
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Pavel Buchnevich said:
It’s bad and he plays at such a slow pace that it makes it that much worse. He’s also bad defensively. He’s not Point, but he may be Robertson. I don’t think his skating should’ve dropped him to the third round, but it likely did.
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Just for the record I was being a bit facetious when I said Point 2.0, Robertson is a much better comparable
 
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Mixture of Troy Terry and Robertson.
 
Pavel Buchnevich said:
It’s bad and he plays at such a slow pace that it makes it that much worse. He’s also bad defensively. He’s not Point, but he may be Robertson. I don’t think his skating should’ve dropped him to the third round, but it likely did.
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Skating for Robertson was an issue but effort/pace never was, like could reasonably be argued for Pastujov
 
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In short – sounds like the Ducks were not pushing him to one or other road, but they provided a development plan for him (that I guess included Guelph where the skating coach is known to GMBM) and combined with the WJCSS results, he and his family eventually decided to go the route that was offered by the Ducks (it was a bit unclear but sounded like his WJCSS performance impacted something as well).
He said he wanted to call the Notre Dame coaches himself, I think he shows some maturity in there.
Also said that Zegras has reached out to him since the draft and they both will get along.

Interesting situation overall. As a Ducks fan I really hope he pans out :laugh:
 
Like I wrote in another thread,
I think Pastujov’s skating issue is that he only starts skating until after he accepts a pass. Most other aspects it’s fine but really hard to create separation if you’re taking away a step from yourself.
 
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