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F Roger McQueen - Brandon Wheat Kings, WHL (2025 Draft)

Michoulicious said:
Do you know what Vilardi's diagnosis was? To my knowledge it was never disclosed.

Big problem is Vilardi played only 36 games total in his D+1 and D+2.

Spondylolysis is pretty rare.

How are you sure that McQueen will miss more time next year?
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No one knows how much time he will miss next year unless you can see the future. But to just assume he will be 100% healthy going forward is just silly considering hes already injured again after missing most of the year. And its not like he plays a low contact game.

Just curious which high profile draft eligible players had injury plagued draft years and turned out fine? Only recent one off the top of my head is Rielly.

Galchenyuk - Injuries didnt impact his career really but still ended up a disappointment
Patrick - continued to be injured and is now retired
Vilardi - Took him 8 years post draft to play more than 70 games in a season, and now once again he is out with an "upper body injury".
Turcotte - Just started to stick in the NHL this year but has constantly been injured every year
Lindstrom - Bro just missed an entire year of play from his injury last year, and will likely be playing catch up the next 2 years, still don't know how he will turn out.

I'm sure im missing some that turned out fine, because the bad cases are what will stick in my mind, but there is just simply to much risk imo picking a guy in the top 10 where at this age he is already showing pretty big injury concerns.
 
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McQueen may fall here. Just a risk to draft him unless he is 100% cleared as to his health.
 
Peasy said:
No one knows how much time he will miss next year unless you can see the future. But to just assume he will be 100% healthy going forward is just silly considering hes already injured again after missing most of the year. And its not like he plays a low contact game.

Just curious which high profile draft eligible players had injury plagued draft years and turned out fine? Only recent one off the top of my head is Rielly.

Galchenyuk - Injuries didnt impact his career really but still ended up a disappointment
Patrick - continued to be injured and is now retired
Vilardi - Took him 8 years post draft to play more than 70 games in a season, and now once again he is out with an "upper body injury".
Turcotte - Just started to stick in the NHL this year but has constantly been injured every year
Lindstrom - Bro just missed an entire year of play from his injury last year, and will likely be playing catch up the next 2 years, still don't know how he will turn out.

I'm sure im missing some that turned out fine, because the bad cases are what will stick in my mind, but there is just simply to much risk imo picking a guy in the top 10 where at this age he is already showing pretty big injury concerns.
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Lapierre has managed to avoid any more back/concussion issues as far as I know. He hasn’t managed to stick at 3C yet but wouldn’t hold that against him on team in contention for the Presidents trophy. List is pretty slim though and his story isn’t over, could see that cervical issue pop back up I’m sure. I think in a draft as shallow as this one seems to be according to consensus, taking a swing on McQueen is probably more palatable to GM’s than other years. He might not crash too hard
 
tomd said:
I think there are enough talented players in the top 6-7 this year that I wouldn't see the need to take the risk on McQueen if I were picking in that range. After that, however, the risk-reward balance starts to make sense for a team looking for a homerun pick. I expect him to go in the top 10-12 assuming no further issues with his health.
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This is why I'm hoping he might end up falling to Detroit. Depending where Detroit picks, if he's around, they need to take that home run swing. They have plenty of young solid players, but you need to take a guy with the potential to take over a game. I think McQueen is the guy with the most risk and reward in this draft.

The back injury doesn't scare me as much as it seems to scare others. He'll get time to strengthen it up and rehab it over the next while. And without the injury, you're not talking about getting a chance at him around 10.
 
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newfy said:
This is why I'm hoping he might end up falling to Detroit. Depending where Detroit picks, if he's around, they need to take that home run swing. They have plenty of young solid players, but you need to take a guy with the potential to take over a game. I think McQueen is the guy with the most risk and reward in this draft.

The back injury doesn't scare me as much as it seems to scare others. He'll get time to strengthen it up and rehab it over the next while. And without the injury, you're not talking about getting a chance at him around 10.
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When has he ever taken over a game in juniors though?
 
I think he'll be taken by a team that has two(3) first round picks.

Montreal 16thor 17th
Columbus 20th
Calgary 18th or 22nd
Philly at 23rd or 27th
Nashville 24th or 30th
San Jose 28th
Chicago 29th

I just can't see a team spending their only pick on a guy with questionable back at 18.
I know teams love size, but after Lindstrom last year one has to think teams are going to be a bit leary of players with injuries that can be career altering or ending.
 
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I think this guy drops toward the bottom 3rd of the 1st round or further in the draft. Lots of potential offset by very significant health concerns and production when healthy that has at times underwhelmed. Everyone remembers the 4 goal season opener though.....
 
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I think this guy drops toward the bottom 3rd of the 1st round or further in the draft. Lots of potential offset by very significant health concerns and production when healthy that has at times underwhelmed. Everyone remembers the 4 goal season opener though.....
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A big guy needs one game to prove himself to scouts.

A smaller player has to prove it every shift.

I am with you on McQueen either way, his profile is impressive but he has never been a dominant player from my viewings.
 
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McQueen won't drop nearly as far as you guys think. Prospects with this kind of size and skill get drafted high for a reason, and frankly, there aren't that many guys with high upside in this draft. I'm seeing a lot of lists that have pretty risky picks (Ryabkin, Carbonneau, Schmidt) in that 10-15 range, purely because they're reaching for upside. By comparison, McQueen's back isn't that scary that it would drop him past these guys (unless there's information about his health status that hasn't been made public yet).

I think he gets picked around 11-13, but I wouldn't be surprised if he still gets picked top-10.
 
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newfy said:
This is why I'm hoping he might end up falling to Detroit. Depending where Detroit picks, if he's around, they need to take that home run swing. They have plenty of young solid players, but you need to take a guy with the potential to take over a game. I think McQueen is the guy with the most risk and reward in this draft.

The back injury doesn't scare me as much as it seems to scare others. He'll get time to strengthen it up and rehab it over the next while. And without the injury, you're not talking about getting a chance at him around 10.
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Detroit would love to have him for multiple reasons, including the possibility of having him develop in their backyard at Michigan next year if he decides to go to the NCAA. Of course, cannot discount the possibility of him staying out west and going to Denver or North Dakota.
 
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