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F Nicholas Robertson - Peterborough Petes, OHL (2019, 53rd, TOR)

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Peasy said:
No need for the leafs to have him up next year. He will spend another year in the OHL and then see if he's ready.
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The kid might score 60 in his draft +1 year. I don’t think he’s got much to prove in the OHL anymore. If he has a good camp he’s got a great shot at making the Leafs. I’d be more worried if the Leafs didn’t have capable centers to play with him, but he’ll be well insulated.
 
Future said:
I wonder where that has him ranked in all-time OHL goals per game in a single season.

Anyone have those stats?
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I think elite prospects might have that info accessible under their premium features.

At a glance on quanthockey.com it looks like Robertson's g/gp rate this year is the highest single season g/gp pace of anyone 19 or under in the OHL in the last 20 years.

That was a quick and imperfect look at the top 200 single season goal numbers so I could be wrong.
 
He's only a month older than Lafreniere, he must of been very close to the eligibility cut off when drafted.

Where do people think he gets picked if this were his draft year?
 
Cotton said:
He's only a month older than Lafreniere, he must of been very close to the eligibility cut off when drafted.

Where do people think he gets picked if this were his draft year?
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he’s older by a month and was months premature. He should have been a Nov baby.
 
He’s a bonafide blue chipper after the season he’s had.

I’d take him top 15 in a redraft, conservatively. I like him more than a lot of names in the top 10 but it might be early to push that narrative.

I think he will make it very hard for management to send him back to junior this fall.
 
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He was born September 11...four days before the cutoff. I'm sure he would've been at least a mid-late first rounder in this draft, some scouts had him in the first round last year as well
 
There's no point keeping him in the juniors next season, but he's ineligible to play in the A next year. Maybe if he puts on some size he could spend the year with the Leafs?
 
Saint Blue said:
He’s a bonafide blue chipper after the season he’s had.

I’d take him top 15 in a redraft, conservatively. I like him more than a lot of names in the top 10 but it might be early to push that narrative.

I think he will make it very hard for management to send him back to junior this fall.
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What's the rush? Robertson looks like he still has some growing to do. How many NHL players have had their development derailed because of being called up when they weren't physically and mentally ready?

The Wild have a similar prospect in Adam Beckman who is blowing up in his D+1 season. I would prefer to let him spend another season in the WHL followed by some AHL action before throwing him into NHL play.
 
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WillyNy said:
There's no point keeping him in the juniors next season, but he's ineligible to play in the A next year. Maybe if he puts on some size he could spend the year with the Leafs?
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The Leafs why? Are they not burning a year on his ELC if they do that? Unless Leafs are trading some of there forwards for D help, there are so many players ahead of him. No point of him playing bare minimum minutes on the Leafs at 19 years old.
 
WillyNy said:
There's no point keeping him in the juniors next season, but he's ineligible to play in the A next year. Maybe if he puts on some size he could spend the year with the Leafs?
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At the very least I can see him getting a much longer look in next years preseason games and maybe he will even play 9 games in the regular season before they decide to keep him or send him back to the OHL.
 
WillyNy said:
There's no point keeping him in the juniors next season, but he's ineligible to play in the A next year. Maybe if he puts on some size he could spend the year with the Leafs?
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He can still learn in junior. Marner's year after he came 2nd in OHL scoring (behind Strome) and point per game (behind McDavid) helped him become an impact player the next year for the Leafs. The belief players outgrow junior for their 19-year-old season is often dramatically overstated. If you go in with the right focus on what you need to improve at, it's fine. Robertson by all accounts is that type of kid. 17-year-old Marner was a better player than 18-year-old Robertson. But another summer of getting stronger and faster, while having another dominant OHL season led to him being a 60 point player in year one, and a 94 point player by year 3.

He needs to get faster and stronger while reducing turning the puck over due to trying to do too much. He can still improve and further round out his game playing in the OHL next year. I don't think going back for his 19-year-old year hurt a similarly undersized goal-scorer in DeBrincat.

I'm not against having him on the team next year if he is just amazing at camp and earns a clear top 9 spot. But, I don't think to gift him an NHL spot, and then giving him 4th line minutes because he's not ready to play in the top 9 due to the belief he outgrew junior is an effective player development strategy. I've seen many players better than Robertson either be forced to go back to junior, and I don't think it hurt them.
 
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93LEAFS said:
He can still learn in junior. Marner's year after he came 2nd in OHL scoring (behind Strome) and point per game (behind McDavid) helped him become an impact player the next year for the Leafs. The belief players outgrow junior for their 19-year-old season is often dramatically overstated. If you go in with the right focus on what you need to improve at, it's fine. Robertson by all accounts is that type of kid. 17-year-old Marner was a better player than 18-year-old Robertson. But another summer of getting stronger and faster, while having another dominant OHL season led to him being a 60 point player in year one, and a 94 point player by year 3.

He needs to get faster and stronger while reducing turning the puck overdue to trying to do too much. He can still improve and further round out his game playing in the OHL next year. I don't think going back for his 19-year-old year hurt a similarly undersized goal-scorer in DeBrincat.

I'm not against having him on the team next year if he is just amazing at camp and earns a clear top 9 spot. But, I don't think to gift him an NHL spot, and then giving him 4th line minutes because he's not ready to play in the top 9 due to the belief he outgrew junior is an effective player development strategy. I've seen many players better than Robertson either be forced to go back to junior, and I don't think it hurt them.
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The example you used with Marner it should also be mentioned how in 2016 is when the Leafs finished in last place overall, so I don't think having Marner around would have done any good for his development. However he did win basically every award he could in the OHL and CHL, like the OHL regular season MVP, CHL player of the year, along with winning an OHL Championship and playoff MVP, plus winning a Memorial Cup and MVP of that tournament.
 
justafan22 said:
in an ideal world he plays in the AHL but thanks to the rules he can't.
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The CHL - NHL contract is coming to an end this year and if you believe the rumours the NHL teams want more control over their prospects (shocking) so there might be a chance Robertson is able to play in the AHL next year

I wonder if Robertson can play in the ECHL next year if the AHL isn't a possibility
 
I watched Marner in his D+1 and being able to play in defensive situations, including 1PK a lot of the year (and all playoffs) helped his game away from the puck immensely. Agree with 93Leafs.
 
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