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F Nicholas Robertson - Peterborough Petes, OHL (2019, 53rd, TOR)

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Torgo said:
I watched Marner in his D+1 and being able to play in defensive situations, including 1PK a lot of the year (and all playoffs) helped his game away from the puck immensely. Agree with 93Leafs.
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Well yeah, Marner was drafted top 5 for a reason. His hockey IQ was just on another level in his post-draft season compared to every other player in the OHL. When you think the game like him, it’s an easy transition to the NHL.

I think Robertson is a great player and in hindsight should’ve easily gone top 15, even considering the seasons other prospects have been having. But, he’s not Marner. Although he doesn’t have any glaring weaknesses, he is still young and can certainly improve in a few areas. That being said, I definitely see a Debrincat/Fabbri hybrid in him.
 
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Future said:
Well yeah, Marner was drafted top 5 for a reason. His hockey IQ was just on another level in his post-draft season compared to every other player in the OHL. When you think the game like him, it’s an easy transition to the NHL.

I think Robertson is a great player and in hindsight should’ve easily gone top 15, even considering the seasons other prospects have been having. But, he’s not Marner. Although he doesn’t have any glaring weaknesses, he is still young and can certainly improve in a few areas. That being said, I definitely see a Debrincat/Fabbri hybrid in him.
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He’s not comparing the two. He said Mather went back in his d+1 season and it helped his development even though he had already dominated juniors.
 
My concern is that Marner didn't have a high-end NHL caliber shot to rely on. Robertson could coast the whole year and still put up gaudy totals just off that shot alone. I think being in a situation where he has less time space to set up his shot is important to develop the rest of his offensive skillset.
 
Martin Skoula said:
My concern is that Marner didn't have a high-end NHL caliber shot to rely on. Robertson could coast the whole year and still put up gaudy totals just off that shot alone. I think being in a situation where he has less time space to set up his shot is important to develop the rest of his offensive skillset.
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but he isn’t coasting, he’s still playing tenacious high speed hockey and the shot volume backs it up

Edit: I understand you aren’t saying he is coasting. But just wanted to point out he doesn’t really come off as a one dimensional sniper like Kessel
 
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BoredBrandonPridham said:
but he isn’t coasting, he’s still playing tenacious high speed hockey and the shot volume backs it up

Edit: I understand you aren’t saying he is coasting. But just wanted to point out he doesn’t really come off as a one dimensional sniper like Kessel
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Kessel was arguably a better playmaker than a scorer.
 
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7even said:
Kessel was arguably a better playmaker than a scorer.
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Agreed. He was easily our best playmaker for years in Toronto and he regularly has more assists than goals. I always found it a bit funny when people labelled Kessel as one dimensional. Lazy, soft.....sure. But far from one dimensional.
 
With the cap situation in TO I really think this guy may make the big club this year even if he'll only be 19. How often do you see a player score a goal per game in the OHL and then return again the next season? Almost never. He's got NHL talent right now. With that goal scoring ability and a spot in Toronto's offense he could easily be a 20+ goal scorer next season which would go a long way in improving the team.
 
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slimbob8 said:
With the cap situation in TO I really think this guy may make the big club this year even if he'll only be 19. How often do you see a player score a goal per game in the OHL and then return again the next season? Almost never. He's got NHL talent right now. With that goal scoring ability and a spot in Toronto's offense he could easily be a 20+ goal scorer next season which would go a long way in improving the team.
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He may have NHL talent right now, but is he physically and mentally mature enough to handle the NHL? From what I gather, he's not a very big guy at all.
 
KirkAlbuquerque said:
Another DeBrincat?
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Might be aiming too high, but he's got a more physical edge to his game, so at the very least he looks like a nice player to mesh with skilled players.

If he could score 25-30 in the NHL, I'd be very happy.

MuckOG said:
He may have NHL talent right now, but is he physically and mentally mature enough to handle the NHL? From what I gather, he's not a very big guy at all.
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Valid point, but I don't think he has much to gain physically - he's already a little wrecking ball. Mentally - who knows. I haven't heard about any issues, and generally players who are willing to play that blue collar style in junior have few issues with coaching in the NHL.
 
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MuckOG said:
He may have NHL talent right now, but is he physically and mentally mature enough to handle the NHL? From what I gather, he's not a very big guy at all.
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Those are valid concerns, but they're becoming less and less of deciding factors lately as the league continues to get younger and more focused on skill. Marner wasn't big enough either according to a lot of people, but eventually your skill is just too good for the OHL and you gotta make the jump. Obviously Robertson won't be Marner level good, but his goal scoring is clearly too good for the OHL right now. It's the highest goals/game rate we've seen in almost 30 years for an OHL player of any age, not just 18 year olds.

Debrincat is even smaller and he had no issues making the jump. All I'm saying is he's probably going to get a long look next fall and the way things are trending I'd be more surprised if he didn't make it than if he did right now.
 
Merrrlin said:
Might be aiming too high, but he's got a more physical edge to his game, so at the very least he looks like a nice player to mesh with skilled players.

If he could score 25-30 in the NHL, I'd be very happy.



Valid point, but I don't think he has much to gain physically - he's already a little wrecking ball. Mentally - who knows. I haven't heard about any issues, and generally players who are willing to play that blue collar style in junior have few issues with coaching in the NHL.
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I think he becomes a better player than DeBrincat. I see a special player here.

I mean nothing wrong with 25-30 goal seasons of course, but I also wouldn't be surprised if he lights it up for 35-40.

But he could also score 10 lol because he is a prospect and it's a crapshoot at times.
 
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MuckOG said:
Which top 6 winger would he be replacing?
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Johnsson

Robertson is a LW. Our RW is stacked with Marner, Nylander, and Kapanen, while our only legit top6 LW is Hyman. The 2nd and 3rd line LW's have been a rotating cast of characters for most of this year because Johnsson has been hurt so much (and under performing when healthy)
 
Hits his 50th goal in 43 games. Pretty unreal peat for the late 2019 2nd rounder.

Where does he go in a redraft?
 
The list of players to hit 50 at over a goal per game pace over the last 15 or so years is very small. Crazy season.

Most impressive part about it is that he’s not even shooting an absurd percentage. He’s just getting like 6 shots per game.
 
Mitch nylander said:
Hits his 50th goal in 43 games. Pretty unreal peat for the late 2019 2nd rounder.

Where does he go in a redraft?
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I can't speak to the 2019 draft class specifically but here's the factual data we have so far:

He's on track to finish with the best GPG rate in decades among U19 players in the OHL. Also on pace to actually hit 60 goals despite missing 16 games. As others have mentioned he's doing this through elite finish AND insane shot generation/volume.

Assuming that kind of "elite finishing talent + elite shot generation" likely translates to 30+ goals consistently in the NHL...then that probably makes him a Top 5-10 pick in most drafts.
 
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