Mickey Marner
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Players taken 29th & 53rd don't usually get much in the way of bonuses, but it's a nice gesture.
F Nicholas Robertson - Peterborough Petes, OHL (2019, 53rd, TOR)
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Players taken 29th & 53rd don't usually get much in the way of bonuses, but it's a nice gesture.
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2 more goals today along with an assist. 31 goals in 28 games. As someone mentioned in the Leafs board, he is only 3 behind the league leader and Robertson has missed 16 games. He would be on pace for 75.
Kid is incredible.
Kid is incredible.
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Isaac Nootin
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8 goals and 12 points in 6 games since returning from the WJHC.
goal and assist tonight with a period to go, been on fire since returning from WJC, does anyone in junior hockey have more goals per game than him? while his assists are modest compared to his goal totals he has shown some highlight reel play making vision/IQ . Cant wait to see him at a higher level, makes me wonder where he would go in this years draft had he been a week or so older, statistically he is about the same as a few expected to go around 10th this year , great pick!
Should be noted, OHL scoring is really out of wack this year. His goal scoring would be elite in any year, but only 2 players have finished at a goal per game in the past 15 years which is DeBrincat and Tavares, right now, two players are currently on pace.
I'm optimistic about Robertson, but it would be intellectually dishonest to not point this out when it has also made me skeptical of quite a few OHL players numbers this year. I think between the weakness of the current 19 and 18-year-old OHL draft classes currently in the league, America being better at keeping kids in either the program or just the USHL, and whatever is causing inflated scoring overall that these numbers when measured against others historically need to be questioned a bit.
He's obviously outperformed the expectations for him, and I'm very happy with him as a prospect. He needs to get more explosive and get stronger and probably cut down a bit on trying to dangle defenders to limit turnovers to excel at the NHL level, but he has a good foundation and a relentless work ethic.
I'm optimistic about Robertson, but it would be intellectually dishonest to not point this out when it has also made me skeptical of quite a few OHL players numbers this year. I think between the weakness of the current 19 and 18-year-old OHL draft classes currently in the league, America being better at keeping kids in either the program or just the USHL, and whatever is causing inflated scoring overall that these numbers when measured against others historically need to be questioned a bit.
He's obviously outperformed the expectations for him, and I'm very happy with him as a prospect. He needs to get more explosive and get stronger and probably cut down a bit on trying to dangle defenders to limit turnovers to excel at the NHL level, but he has a good foundation and a relentless work ethic.
15 points in 8 games since the WJs. Goals in 7 straight (10 goals in those 7 games). Pretty insane for a guy who was a couple days away from being eligible for this year's draft. Probably would go mid 1st despite it being a deep draft.
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I mean, maybe. He’s a great prospect who is performing well this season, but he also looked like a first rounder at the draft last year; he fell into the Leafs’ lap near the end of the 2nd due to warts in his game, I’m sure NHL scouts were very aware of his age. From most reports his game has improved but he still shows the same inconsistencies shift-by-shift that will need to stop before the next level. Everyone thought Kaliyev was almost a guaranteed top 15 pick due to his insane numbers then fell to the 2nd. If he wasn’t already drafted the same thing could easily happen to a prospect like Nick.
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Maplebeasts
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More than gpg, a 1.67 ppg and a ppg world juniors would 100% make you a mid first round selection, if not higher.
I mean Kaliyev went in the second round at 6"2 despite having 1.5ppg+ and leading his team by over 20 points so its absolutely not 100%
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Robertson has none of the concerns that Kaliyev has regarding his work ethic. He's almost unanimously regarded as an elite prospect. He'd absolutely go top 15, probably top 10.
The poster wasn't discussing the quality of his play - just his stats. Try to keep up.
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And how does that look now? Kaliyev's the exception not the rule. Robertson is also known as a hard worker and intense forechecker.
Pavel Buchnevich
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This is ridiculous. How does someone move up so much in half of a season? Where did you have him ranked pre-draft?
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What do pre draft rankings have to do with his current play. Just as a note, TSN in their draft rankings had him as 3.5/5 for goal scoring.
You don't think his play this year merits him moving into the 1st round?
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I think you missed the part where they were talking about him being a few days younger and being in the 2020 draft. It's not that ridiculous to think he would be ranked ahead of Dawson Mercer, for example.
Pavel Buchnevich
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If you had him 15th, and now want to rank him 10th or if you had him 20th and now want to rank him 15th, I think thats a lot more agreeable. If you didn't have an opinion pre-draft and are only using the consensus, I find it hard to believe that a player could do enough in half a season to move up 36-41 spots.
He doesn't need to move into the first round, in my opinion, because I don't rank off of the consensus. I ranked him 24th. He's a first round caliber player. I don't think he's moved out of the first round, so I do think his play merits being a first rounder, but I think moving him up to top 10-top 15 is too much, whether you had him where I had him ranked or if you use the consensus. If you had him top 10-top 15, and you want to say he's played as expected, I can understand that viewpoint a lot more than what that poster claimed.
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It doesn't work that way. Jeremy Bracco who I see some resemblance to Roberston also had nice stats too when he played in the OHL post draft. He did not suddenly go from #61 to top #15 based on stats reading. True prospects watchers knew his skating was an issue. The same can be said for Roberton. Scouts know players weaknesses and how they will translate to the NHL. It's not just about reading hockey db.
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lol I watched Bracco play in most of his OHL career and I've seen a lot of Robertson. They are very different players. You talk about people "reading hockey db" but you don't actually seem to have watched many of the players you talk about, always deferring to some other (often unidentified) "source".
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Bracco was ranked as high as 22 by scouting services and as low as 54. People were really torn on him.
But Bracco had bigger issues in his game. He was a perimeter player. He could skate circles on his edges on the perimeter but he would get stuck out there. He didn't go to the dirty areas and that's when being small works against you a bit more because he played like he was small. Those aren't issues for Robertson. He gets to the net, he battles hard for the puck on both sides of it. He creates his own shots. Robertson can be projected up or down the lineup. Bracco was total boom or bust. He was never going to be a 3rd/4th line grinder.
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I think you are missing the point. Both are similar in size, but it is not production that has scouts made them go late in the 2nd rd, but how their skating and strength that will translate to the NHL.
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Good breakdown of the differences between them. I'm a fan of Bracco, but even as a junior player he was frustrating to watch sometimes, not much of a "motor" and not much of anything away from the puck. Never feel that frustration with Robertson.
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Isaac Nootin
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Lol at anyone trying to compare Robertson to Jeremy Bracco.
You couldn't get more polar opposite players if you tried.
You couldn't get more polar opposite players if you tried.
