F Jonathan Lekkerimaki (2022, 15th, VAN)

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I absolutely do not think he is a worse prospect than Holtz or Eklund who both went 7th overall.
Valid points. I do think he has better puck skills than Holtz, although they are pretty similar as players and I figure will play/fill similar roles in the future.

Eklund has that unique hockey sense and intensity that none of them have, but on the other hand he cannot really finish/shoot. All three should become NHLers.
 
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Valid points. I do think he has better puck skills than Holtz, although they are pretty similar as players and I figure will play/fill similar roles in the future.

Eklund has that unique hockey sense and intensity that none of them have, but on the other hand he cannot really finish/shoot. All three should become NHLers.
Of all three, I think Holtz has the most standout elite attribute though. But yeah, I agree with that assessment.
 

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Surprised there isnt more chatter about him after the tournament he just had. Sens pick around 7th might be who they are looking at.
I was impressed...really impressed. He looks like EP40. Same slight frame, great wheels, great moves, nice shot, vg passer...always around the play. Not the biggest, but not bad, and I can see him filling out, though you don't get a guy like him to be a grinder.
 

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Hope him or Nazar are available at #10 (or someone else drops that far but doubt it)
 

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Like Lambert this kid sees the ice as well as anyone and reacts with extreme confidence. Doesn’t have the pure power Lambert has now but it should come. Can’t see him making it out of the Top 10. The closer we get to the draft, he may rise the most.
 

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Like Lambert this kid sees the ice as well as anyone and reacts with extreme confidence. Doesn’t have the pure power Lambert has now but it should come. Can’t see him making it out of the Top 10. The closer we get to the draft, he may rise the most.

Brad Lambert doesn't have close to the vision Lekkerimaki does.

The hockey IQ Lambert has displayed in my viewings of him, both in Liiga and at the WJC, has just been downright poor. His decisions with the puck were quite slow, his offensive reads sub-par, and his play selection left a lot to be desired.

But his ability to drop-pass right into a dangerous area / on an opponent's stick was apparent in close to every game I saw him play. Seriously, on the powerplay, at even strength, on the few minutes of PK I saw him play, Lambert was a turnover machine.

So yeah, he frustrated me a lot offensively seemingly every damn time he had the puck on his stick over the course of, I don't know, 10-12 games of his I watched in the Liiga (his shifts only, courtesy of my membership to instat), as well as the entirety of his WJC games.

I will admit that against WJC competition, Lambert looked good though I still didn't like a lot of his reads, and he was hogging the puck too much/just shooting when there were better options.

Worse, I would argue that his offensive success came more as a result of him overwhelming that level of competition with his skating/skills rather than him actually showing elevated hockey sense. He drove possession, as always, but the offense he did create came more out of exploiting weaknesses in skating/coverage (that won't be there at the NHL level) rather than actually creating offense through his vision / manipulation of defenses through efficient fakes/dekes/disguising his options.

Against older competition in the Liiga, faster and more efficient defenders, Lambert often looked lost, got cornered with the puck a lot, losing it often and creating sweet f-all most of the time, instead defaulting back to his defenders through board passes, putting them in trouble at times.

Look, I mean no disrespect, Lambert has a lot of skills you would want to see in a young player and I get it, his combination of decent size, ++ skating, pretty sweet shot, nifty hands, and the occasional nice lobbed pass looks, and is, tantalizing.

And then there is the fact that Lambert moves around A LOT on the ice with no visible dropoff in performance (elite cardio, a very nice tool to have, also a sign of inefficiency in regards to reads/position on the ice), involves himself in the defensive side of the game well, makes good reads defensively, is a good possession player, sticks up for his teammates, and will go in the corners to battle for pucks, so he is still a good prospect to have.

But his hockey sense issues make him a DND for me until at least the mid-way point of the second round.

The only reason he doesn't drop further in my list is that he can still hack it as a very good bottom-6 forward if his offensive IQ doesn't improve much, which I don't think it ultimately will.

Anyways, enough about Lambert. I'd say that Lekkerimaki does not boast elite vision, like a Shane Wright for example, but he is still within the very top echelon at it in this year's draft, in addition to his wonderful puckhandling, shot, good skating and whatnot.

All of that to say that I have Lekkerimaki 7th in my list right now, and that he looked awesome at the U-18. Earlier in the year I wondered if Lek would ultimately make my top 10. Well, he did, and that shows progression on his part, another positive point in his favour.

So yeah, that's it from me. Cheers and have a nice day.

I apologize if the wall of text offended the sensibilities of more concise posters, but do spare me with the whole "Brevity is the soul of wit." comments.
 
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I know I'm gonna make a bigger deal out of this than anybody would, but The Athletic did an article where they basically asked prospects for their opinion on their own scouting report. Lekk was asked, "Do you think you have a below average compete level?", and responded "Yeah, I think so. I can improve it more."

Maybe it's just a case of something being lost in translation, but I feel like a guy admitting that he doesn't try his hardest is a red flag. It's one thing to admit you might not be the most talented or skilled and then say you work hard to improve it... But this guy essentially just said he doesn't work hard.

Maybe lost in translation. Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a mole-hill. But this seems like the mentality of a player who dominates one night and then is nowhere to be found the next two weeks.
 

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I know I'm gonna make a bigger deal out of this than anybody would, but The Athletic did an article where they basically asked prospects for their opinion on their own scouting report. Lekk was asked, "Do you think you have a below average compete level?", and responded "Yeah, I think so. I can improve it more."

Maybe it's just a case of something being lost in translation, but I feel like a guy admitting that he doesn't try his hardest is a red flag. It's one thing to admit you might not be the most talented or skilled and then say you work hard to improve it... But this guy essentially just said he doesn't work hard.

Maybe lost in translation. Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a mole-hill. But this seems like the mentality of a player who dominates one night and then is nowhere to be found the next two weeks.
It's like work interviews.. if someone sits there and describes themselves as a perfect employee.. "my only flaw is that I work too hard" etc., that can be a sign of someone lacking self-awareness.
If scouts are concerned about his work ethic the biggest red flag would probably be if he doesn't think it's an issue. Properly identifying your flaws as a player is the first step towards improving upon them.
 

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Or hes still physical immature, so he can't compete as well as he likes yet against grown men.
 

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I know I'm gonna make a bigger deal out of this than anybody would, but The Athletic did an article where they basically asked prospects for their opinion on their own scouting report. Lekk was asked, "Do you think you have a below average compete level?", and responded "Yeah, I think so. I can improve it more."

Maybe it's just a case of something being lost in translation, but I feel like a guy admitting that he doesn't try his hardest is a red flag. It's one thing to admit you might not be the most talented or skilled and then say you work hard to improve it... But this guy essentially just said he doesn't work hard.

Maybe lost in translation. Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a mole-hill. But this seems like the mentality of a player who dominates one night and then is nowhere to be found the next two weeks.

He had mono in the spring, maybe he was sluggish because of that but doesn’t want to use that as an “excuse” (even though it’s an understandable reason).
 

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Swedish winger Jonathan Lekkerimaki had a breakout performance at the IIHF Under-18 World Championships. He put up five goals and 10 assists for 15 points in just six tournament games. The performance led Sweden to the Gold Medal as well as earning Lekkermaki a spot on the Tournament All-Star Team, and the Tournament MVP. Of course, he was also named a top-three player on his team.

Lekkerimaki split the season between Djurgarden’s SHL team, playing in the country’s top men’s league and playing in the Swedish Under-20 league. In the SHL, he put up seven goals and two assists for nine points in 26 games. He dominated at the junior level. Lekkerimaki scored 20 goals and 15 assists for 35 points in 26 games. He helped the J20 squad to a second-place finish in the league. Lekkerimaki also helped Sweden to a bronze medal at last summer’s Hlinka-Gretzky tournament. He scored five goals in five tournament games. Lekkermaki played three games with the Swedish Under-20 team, scoring one goal. He has a good chance to make the World Junior team in the rescheduled tournament this summer.

 

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Swedish winger Jonathan Lekkerimaki had a breakout performance at the IIHF Under-18 World Championships. He put up five goals and 10 assists for 15 points in just six tournament games. The performance led Sweden to the Gold Medal as well as earning Lekkermaki a spot on the Tournament All-Star Team, and the Tournament MVP. Of course, he was also named a top-three player on his team.

Lekkerimaki split the season between Djurgarden’s SHL team, playing in the country’s top men’s league and playing in the Swedish Under-20 league. In the SHL, he put up seven goals and two assists for nine points in 26 games. He dominated at the junior level. Lekkerimaki scored 20 goals and 15 assists for 35 points in 26 games. He helped the J20 squad to a second-place finish in the league. Lekkerimaki also helped Sweden to a bronze medal at last summer’s Hlinka-Gretzky tournament. He scored five goals in five tournament games. Lekkermaki played three games with the Swedish Under-20 team, scoring one goal. He has a good chance to make the World Junior team in the rescheduled tournament this summer.

He wasn't named a top 3 player on the U18 team. Östlund + the Hävelid twins were.

Also I'd have his appearance in the rescheduled WJCs as doubtful, moreso if Montén stays for the summer. This is the Swedish Hockey Federation we're talking about. It's "unfair" if players from December gets dropped.
 

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He wasn't named a top 3 player on the U18 team. Östlund + the Hävelid twins were.

Also I'd have his appearance in the rescheduled WJCs as doubtful, moreso if Montén stays for the summer. This is the Swedish Hockey Federation we're talking about. It's "unfair" if players from December gets dropped.

Fair enough on the top 3.

As for the August WJC, there is some talk that players who have a chance to make their NHL teams in training camp may not play in the tourney. I think he would be one of the first in line if a player like Eklund, Holtz, Rosen or others skip the tourney.
 

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top 10 pick still? or will he slide to the 11-15 range? He's 5'11 but can still grow to possibly 6'0 or 6'1. If someone like San Jose gets him, you got a nice duo growing with him and Eklund.
 

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top 10 pick still? or will he slide to the 11-15 range? He's 5'11 but can still grow to possibly 6'0 or 6'1. If someone like San Jose gets him, you got a nice duo growing with him and Eklund.
This is a fairly weak draft for forwards so anything is possible but his average skating and perimeter play may drop him at bit. Doubt he grows above 5'11" though.
 
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