If I took out the f'ing years and changed them to 1971/72 and 1972/73 would you be an honest interlocutor then? Are you really that damn dense that you won't engage with the actual points I was making? Are you just a poe?
Not to derail the thread but if he can’t make Canada whilst leading the country in goals and points, that says more about the galaxybrain WJC sélection committee than it does any type of judgement of him as a player; it would be akin to the four nations team leaving off MacKinnon.
Their PP woes are making me side-eye Greg Brown (with regards to game strategy not player development). Because how can it be this bad with the talent they have?
Would be curious to see where Fantilli is on that list.
He didn't make Team Canada because in his d-1 year he was on a superteam that played him out of position?
He's always been a mediocre at best coach IMO, and I might go so far as to call him actively bad. He basically deployed the freshman line last year in third line even strength minutes.
Agree on Brown, like last year when he waited till about a minute left to pull the goalie in the Natty vs Denver. Like dude put your best six out there and give em an extra minute at least to have a chance. I think he's a little overrated.
Really going out on a limb, lol. I think he'll be somewhere between Paul Bisonette and Sidney Crosby myself.
Exactly and I was going to point out that the poster you are replying too always tries to use Schafer's underwhelming 23-24 season and the gloss over the context of 2 tragic deaths in his life and the coaching philosophy of the team he is on then rag on everyone talking about statistics on Hagens.
I'm not saying it was the right decision, but I think people that act like "he got screwed so bad" and forget to add into this equation that he contributed to "the screwing" within the equation are not being fair to the situation.
Had 5 goals in 7 games at the World Juniors this year. Has had 23 goals in 28 games at the WHC17, WJC18, and WJC20 before being drafted. Had 39 goals at the NTDP last year, but that was also shooting 2X what he's shooting now. Almost like there's this thing called SH% luck. Sometimes is working in your favor, sometimes is not, and it all tends to revert back to the mean over time. Can't believe diehards on a hockey message board don't understand this concept.
Nope, not letting you get away with this emotional blackmail stuff.
Time to rant.
What is this emotional blackmail BS?
Chicago would be a great spot for him. They've been stockpiling picks for about four consecutive drafts so he'll join a camaraderie of players on the same timeline but for the most part slightly ahead of him so he won't be entering a black hole of potential support of 'extra' picked players, they already have a marquee Forward there ahead of him so that he won't be relied on to be "the guy" to take pressure off, original six franchise, clean cap, lots of opportunity without veterans standing in his way.
BC had the second best powerplay percentage in the country last year, so that would challenge the idea that Brown's system can't work.
Okay, so we just have to grant him a complete exemption from his season being assessed because he experienced tragedy? It's essentially asking to silence debate and dissent. When a player plays through an injury, should their season not be assessed? Would it be cruel to as much as discuss the season of someone who was experiencing real life pain going through an injury that hampered their play?
The thing is that he was an excellent prospect that went #1 in the OHL, had a very good U17 and Hlinka tournament, it's not like he had a meh year last year and was just a guy then suddenly exploded this year.
