F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)

[LGB]

I don’t understand how this player made it past the second pick

 

[Jabba11]

I don’t understand how this player made it past the second pick

Organizational need and prioritzing position.
A big minute logging 2-way RHD is very sought after. Montreal took Reinbacher over Michkov. Sometimes, safer is more popular. But for me, Sennecke and Lindstrom over him made no sense.

 

[HabsCowboysOwn]

Not generational but 100+ point seasons superstar is good enough for me. He's gonna be a special player.

 

[PAZ]

Organizational need and prioritzing position.
A big minute logging 2-way RHD is very sought after. Montreal took Reinbacher over Michkov. Sometimes, safer is more popular. But for me, Sennecke and Lindstrom over him made no sense.

Anaheim often goes off the board. And considering Sennecke was expected to be a project and is having this type of D+1 season, I can still still see an argument.

Columbus already has a million skilled, small forwards. Johnson, Marchenko, Fantilli, Chinakhov, Brindley, etc.

Demidov may have the highest ceiling and most likely to become a superstar, but you still need to build a team. If you consistently draft BPA you end up in Buffalo's situation.

 

[Noble]

Doubt he'll be McDavid level so not generational, but I think he'll be a tier below. He has very real 100+ point potential.

Very exciting times for the Habs.

 

[Hanji]

I mean

Let's define generational for this era

Multiple 120 plus seasons?

I'd love too

But besides McDavid these was no prospect I would have labeled generational in the past 10 years, call me picky

Recent history, for forwards, Imo

Gretzky
Lemieux
Jagr
Ovechkin
Crosby
McDavid

 

[Breakfast of Champs]

Is he generational now? Asking for some habs fans that are in denial

I mean, no he is absolutely not generational. Generational would mean he was putting up 100 pts in the nhl this season like McDavid and Crosby were.

He would need to win the AR next year to be considered a generational talent, which he won't. But he's certainly an elite talent who could be a 100 pt player in the future which is incredibly exciting as a habs fan

 

[HabbyGuy]

Is he generational now? Asking for some habs fans that are in denial

I'll tell you what, I'll give you this. From a strictly habs point of view he could possibly be considered generational, in the sense that the habs haven't had this type of prospect/player with this much potential and talent in literally generations. He most certainly could be a "franchise player" but that's as far as it goes.

As good as he is or could be, he does not fit into the definition of that of a NHL generational player. That said he does have potential superstar written all over him.

Lots of good things to look forward to for habs fans.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Anaheim often goes off the board. And considering Sennecke was expected to be a project and is having this type of D+1 season, I can still still see an argument.

Columbus already has a million skilled, small forwards. Johnson, Marchenko, Fantilli, Chinakhov, Brindley, etc.

Demidov may have the highest ceiling and most likely to become a superstar, but you still need to build a team. If you consistently draft BPA you end up in Buffalo's situation.

Marchenko, Fantilli, and Chinakhov are small?

 

[Kiirin]

Organizational need and prioritzing position.
A big minute logging 2-way RHD is very sought after. Montreal took Reinbacher over Michkov. Sometimes, safer is more popular. But for me, Sennecke and Lindstrom over him made no sense.

Sennecke is great, and he'll be a magician in the league. Do a 2024 redraft five years later, he's likely going third or fourth. Chicago and Columbus are the one who made a huge mistake that'll prevent them from being contenders for years(unless they get Mckenna or Dupont). Irrespective of their positions, Lindstrom and Levshunov are nowhere near close to the talent and impact Demidov will bring to a team.

 

[CaviarAndRinkFries]

 

[ccman68]

bedard demidov would’ve dominated the league for the next decade+. this year’s draft doesn’t really have any forward as talented. the blackhawks done f***ed up

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

bedard demidov would’ve dominated the league for the next decade+. this year’s draft doesn’t really have any forward as talented. the blackhawks done f***ed up

Thank god

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Thank god

Truly

Demidov - Hutson is God’s gift to hockey fans

 

[Doom Bot]

I bet on the Habs taking every single other player around the top picks because I didn't think we even had a chance to actually get him.

 

[Frederixx]

7pts short of the best season ever for a U20 in the KHL. With a bunch of games left, this should be interesting

 

[crosbyshow]

I bet on the Habs taking every single other player around the top picks because I didn't think we even had a chance to actually get him.

Yep....a budy of mine asked me before the draft what were the chances to draft Demidov at 5..

I told him 0% ...none


No matter the needs I was sure at more than 99% that the Hawks would draft him...

Even 48h after the draft..I was still in shock to have him in Montreal

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

bedard demidov would’ve dominated the league for the next decade+. this year’s draft doesn’t really have any forward as talented. the blackhawks done f***ed up

Makes sense why the hawks tried to trade their 2025 unprotected 1st for the 4th overall pick last draft. They likely projected Demidov to be better than any forward from the 2025 draft.

 

[JIMVINNY]

Makes sense why the hawks tried to trade their 2025 unprotected 1st for the 4th overall pick last draft. They likely projected Demidov to be better than any forward from the 2025 draft.

I think they would have been far better off taking Demidov at 2 and then trying to get the Habs' pick to take Lev. They should have known it was Demidov Montreal wanted, and taken him off the board so they'd be willing to trade the pick.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

I think they would have been far better off taking Demidov at 2 and then trying to get the Habs' pick to take Lev. They should have known it was Demidov Montreal wanted, and taken him off the board so they'd be willing to trade the pick.

Levshunov wouldn't have made it past Anaheim at 3, so they had to take him at 2 if they wanted him

 

[JIMVINNY]

Levshunov wouldn't have made it past Anaheim at 3, so they had to take him at 2 if they wanted him

I believe that Anaheim wanted Sennecke. I don't think Levshunov being available would have changed their minds.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Organizational need and prioritzing position.
A big minute logging 2-way RHD is very sought after. Montreal took Reinbacher over Michkov. Sometimes, safer is more popular. But for me, Sennecke and Lindstrom over him made no sense.

Exactly this.

Harder for Chicago to acquire a player that projects as a 1D than to acquire an elite scoring forward. Do we think there are going to be a shortage of scoring forwards that want to play with Bedard?

Demidov might end up better than Levshunov (or maybe not), but Levshunov is pretty good and having a good season. Some teams just build different from a philosophical standpoint. Some would prefer a Seider or Ekblad over a Kaprizov or Marner, and others would take the player that’ll put up more points.

 

[Nico Cauzuki]

Exactly this.

Harder for Chicago to acquire a player that projects as a 1D than to acquire an elite scoring forward. Do we think there are going to be a shortage of scoring forwards that want to play with Bedard?

Demidov might end up better than Levshunov (or maybe not), but Levshunov is pretty good and having a good season. Some teams just build different from a philosophical standpoint. Some would prefer a Seider or Ekblad over a Kaprizov or Marner, and others would take the player that’ll put up more points.

Agree even our team did the same thing last year picking Reinbacher over Michkov RD is the second most important position after center

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Exactly this.

Harder for Chicago to acquire a player that projects as a 1D than to acquire an elite scoring forward. Do we think there are going to be a shortage of scoring forwards that want to play with Bedard?

Demidov might end up better than Levshunov (or maybe not), but Levshunov is pretty good and having a good season. Some teams just build different from a philosophical standpoint. Some would prefer a Seider or Ekblad over a Kaprizov or Marner, and others would take the player that’ll put up more points.

Exactly, it happens

Also I don’t think a lot of people were anticipating Demidov’s insane development curve this year. People were wondering if his play would translate well to the KHL. Few expected it to be too easy for him.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

I think they would have been far better off taking Demidov at 2 and then trying to get the Habs' pick to take Lev. They should have known it was Demidov Montreal wanted, and taken him off the board so they'd be willing to trade the pick.

From the habs behind the scenes thing they put out for the draft, trading the 1st (possibly just back) was an option they were/would consider.