F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)

[JianYang]

Looks like when this thread was created back in 2021, demidov was considered 'tiny".

He's no slafkovsky in size but he certainly doesn't appear to be tiny anymore.

 

[Koivu11]

what the....

Last season McDavid was a relative -22, being +35 on a +57 team.

Sad!

 

[Sasha Orlov]

what the....

This poster trolls about Demidov all day because he’s very upset that his team didn’t draft him

He also lies a LOT and I genuinely don’t think he’s ever even seen Demidov play before

 

[Kairi Zaide]

SKA is a +33, plus minus only is useful when evaluating two players on the same team and using that plus minus relative to the team..

Demidov is a relative -17, being a +16 on a +33 team is not a flex.

When you don't know how to do and apply math... Please, avoid from using math. That's not how you'd calculate a "relative +/-" (which would be compared to _teammates_, not team, think RelTM G± available on EH).

 

[JeffreyLFC]

Demidov would not have been in the NHL this year. Be serious.

He would 100%. Habs have showed it with Slaf and he was more raw than Demidov.

 

[Kegs]

He might be wrong but the only reason Demidov, unlike Michkov, is not in the NHL, is his contract with SKA.



Again, really poor reasoning.

Ok…. I guess he isn’t a Calder candidate? What part of what I said is “really poor reasoning?”

 

[Baksfamous112]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1850951533887623307

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Yeah he's a dog out there on the takeaways and defensive efforts , it's why some see him capable of playing C down the line , he has quite the attention to detail

 

[WarriorofTime]

He is ready for NHL next year, imo.

 

[Garbageyuk]

This poster trolls about Demidov all day because he’s very upset that his team didn’t draft him

He also lies a LOT and I genuinely don’t think he’s ever even seen Demidov play before

He just posted a list where he has Demidov as the 5th best prospect in the KHL lmao. He’s got guys like Artamonov and Zavragin ahead of him, Silayev too

 

[danisonfire]

Yeah he's a dog out there on the takeaways and defensive efforts , it's why some see him capable of playing C down the line , he has quite the attention to detail

This is why Bobrov loved him so much and why he was eager to draft him for several years, before the actual draft. It was beyond his skill and production.

High skill level, high compete level, great offensive production and attention to details at both ends of the ice. You rarely get all four in a single player. Let's hope he keeps it up.

 

[A Loyal Demidog]

He just posted a list where he has Demidov as the 5th best prospect in the KHL lmao. He’s got guys like Artamonov and Zavragin ahead of him, Silayev too

I get being upset at his team not drafting Demidov, but yikes, it's starting to become sad his (negative) fixation on Demidov.

 

[bud12]

I get being upset at his team not drafting Demidov, but yikes, it's starting to become sad.

He's probably not even a Hawks fan. He look more like Michkov mother or a flyers fan that is insecure about Demidov being better

 

[hohosaregood]

He's gonna be at least as good as Makarov

 

[Thomas Sowell]

This thread has nothing to do with Michkov, so please stop making Michkov the discussion.

You want to discuss Michkov? Here…

RW Matvei Michkov (2023, 7th, PHI) Part 5

 

[Thomas Sowell]

He's really not though.... his P/60 vs trash teams under .500 is 7.xx, his P/60 vs .500+ teams is 1.xx

He has 2 points in 11 games played vs teams over .500 and 15 points in 10 games vs bottom feeder teams.

He's getting 15 minutes a night vs trash teams and only 5 minutes a night vs the top teams. It's very hard to gauge exactly how well he's doing and this p/60 number is useless because of these facts.

The KHL has 6 very good teams and rest are well below AHL level.

Those saying Demidov would be in the NHL this year are either delusional or Habs front office is really that stupid.

It's not a matter of "good enough", it's a matter of proper development. Demidov himself said he wasn't ready for the NHL and that playing in the KHL is a good thing. You can't go from the weakest junior league in hockey (MHL) to the NHL.

Anyone with eyes can see the magic of this player, you are simply reaching with every breath to discredit or downplay him because you unfortunately are a hater. Shame

 

[Kennedys]

Last season McDavid was a relative -22, being +35 on a +57 team.

Sad!

Patrice Bergeron was a relative -93 when he won the selke in 2022-23

 

[Koivu11]

Patrice Bergeron was a relative -93 when he won the selke in 2022-23

 

[thebestnic]

One of the worst takes I've read, ever read, on HF.

American school system in all its glory...

 

[Thomas Sowell]

American school system in all its glory...

It's so bad....needs accountability and has none. Dismantle the department of education. Privatize it all

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

One of the worst takes I've read, ever read, on HF.

Undoubtedly. You know it's a stupid take when it's so bad that the guy who posts terrible hater nonsense deletes it.

 

[Sasha Orlov]

Undoubtedly. You know it's a stupid take when it's so bad that the guy who posts terrible hater nonsense deletes it.

When you consider Demidov’s ice time, that “relative +/-“ is almost unbelievable actually lmfao

It's so bad....needs accountability and has none. Dismantle the department of education. Privatize it all

Based as all holy hell

 

[Captain97]

It's so bad....needs accountability and has none. Dismantle the department of education. Privatize it all

Based as all holy hell

His Username checks out.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

It's so bad....needs accountability and has none. Dismantle the department of education. Privatize it all

You got the clean sweep of reactions lol