F Ivan Demidov - SKA St. Petersburg, KHL (2024, 5th, MTL)

[Xirik]

Is he on the same like as Gritsyuk yet?

 

[KevSkillz4]

I'm a Habs fan, very biased.

BUT, wow! This guy put 8 pts in 10 games AND very very good highlights with low time ice like that.

That's a superstar talent for sure.

He looks like a bulldog type of player with ELITE offensive ability.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Scrotumberg is a truly awful coach lol

 

[The Last Red]

Not sure wich is better, to play less but with way better linemates or to be an alpha and omega on a godawful Sochi team.

Probably doesn’t matter. They’re both super-talented.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

8 points in 10 games is a good start to the season. His ice time is low, so it could still be higher, but I guess with SKA he could be playing like 3 minutes a game, so maybe you take what you can get.

Anaheim and Columbus two years in a row passing on uber-talented Russian wingers might be the point where we look back on their rebuilds and say they weren’t willing to take the risk to acquire the superstar that you generally need to become a Cup contender.

Michkov and Demidov are both great talents, but let's not pretend that Carlsson isn't going to be a superstar two way center.

I do suspect they'll regret Senecke over Demidov but I doubt they'll ever regret that Carlsson choice, even if Michkov becomes the more prolific scorer.

 

[Zine]

it's a shame he plays under such an idiot nepo baby as rotenberg.

It is a shame.
I salivate at the thought of him playing for Razin or Larionov.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Michkov and Demidov are both great talents, but let's not pretend that Carlsson isn't going to be a superstar two way center.

I do suspect they'll regret Senecke over Demidov but I doubt they'll ever regret that Carlsson choice, even if Michkov becomes the more prolific scorer.

Idk if regret is the right word…. We just don’t take Russians in Russia high in the draft they were prob not even realistically options. I doubt we’ll even care/look at that missed opportunity (assuming Demidov is better than sennecke, but there’s still a lot of development time on both players to change that)


We shall see with sennecke…. He’s def more of a project that Demidov…. But if sennecke becomes a right handed shot top line forward that has power/skill…. It’s almost a perfect fit for our top 6.

Montreal will regret passing on michkov more than Anaheim will regret passing on Demidov.

 

[Baksfamous112]

Idk if regret is the right word…. We just don’t take Russians in Russia high in the draft they were prob not even realistically options. I doubt we’ll even care/look at that missed opportunity (assuming Demidov is better than sennecke, but there’s still a lot of development time on both players to change that)


We shall see with sennecke…. He’s def more of a project that Demidov…. But if sennecke becomes a right handed shot top line forward that has power/skill…. It’s almost a perfect fit for our top 6.

Montreal will regret passing on michkov more than Anaheim will regret passing on Demidov.

I genuinely doubt that. If anything, Leonard would fit Montreal way of playing way more than Michkov. With a do-over, I still think Montreal takes the gamble on the 6’4 RHD

 

[SaSaShi]

Speaking of Demidov, I wish the flyers got him with the 4th pick they were trying to trade up to. Briere wanted him BADLY, and rightly so. Fantastic young talent.

The forward rebuild would have been complete.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

I genuinely doubt that. If anything, Leonard would fit Montreal way of playing way more than Michkov. With a do-over, I still think Montreal takes the gamble on the 6’4 RHD

If Montreal knew Michkov would come over in his D+2 season I think they would have taken him. And after seeing him torch the league in preseason, they definitely take him.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

If Montreal knew Michkov would come over in his D+2 season I think they would have taken him. And after seeing him torch the league in preseason, they definitely take him.

Ya if the my got michkov last year then you prob take their choice of yakemchuk, silayev, buium or Dickinson this year.

Still kinda miss out on center tho, which is prob something they wish worked out more in their favor last couple drafts.

 

[Ezpz]

If Montreal knew Michkov would come over in his D+2 season I think they would have taken him. And after seeing him torch the league in preseason, they definitely take him.

I don't think it was happening regardless. Michkov picked his spot and some technically not legal within the cba stuff went down to get him over early.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Ya if the my got michkov last year then you prob take their choice of yakemchuk, silayev, buium or Dickinson this year.

Still kinda miss out on center tho, which is prob something they wish worked out more in their favor last couple drafts.

I see no reason why they couldn't take both Michkov and Demidov. That high in the draft, I think you have to take best player available.

Michkov
Slafkovsky
Demidov
Caufield

That's a pretty strong group of wingers to surround a potentially weaker center core with. Suzuki and Dach would probably be enough down the middle with that sort of star power on the wings.

 

[Guadana]

Idk if regret is the right word…. We just don’t take Russians in Russia high in the draft they were prob not even realistically options. I doubt we’ll even care/look at that missed opportunity (assuming Demidov is better than sennecke, but there’s still a lot of development time on both players to change that)


We shall see with sennecke…. He’s def more of a project that Demidov…. But if sennecke becomes a right handed shot top line forward that has power/skill…. It’s almost a perfect fit for our top 6.

Montreal will regret passing on michkov more than Anaheim will regret passing on Demidov.

Looks identical. Identically very very bad.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

Michkov and Demidov are both great talents, but let's not pretend that Carlsson isn't going to be a superstar two way center.

I do suspect they'll regret Senecke over Demidov but I doubt they'll ever regret that Carlsson choice, even if Michkov becomes the more prolific scorer.

Totally agree . Carlsson is going to be amazing as a finished product .

 

[FliegerKorps]

I see no reason why they couldn't take both Michkov and Demidov. That high in the draft, I think you have to take best player available.

Michkov
Slafkovsky
Demidov
Caufield

That's a pretty strong group of wingers to surround a potentially weaker center core with. Suzuki and Dach would probably be enough down the middle with that sort of star power on the wings.

Stop we're already dead.

 

[Zine]

I see no reason why they couldn't take both Michkov and Demidov. That high in the draft, I think you have to take best player available.

Michkov
Slafkovsky
Demidov
Caufield

That's a pretty strong group of wingers to surround a potentially weaker center core with. Suzuki and Dach would probably be enough down the middle with that sort of star power on the wings.

Probably?

Michkov-Dach-Demidov
Slafkovsky-Suzuki-Caufield

That top 6 would be ridiculous. And either Michkov/Demidov can also realistically play C. That would move Dach to the 3rd line which could create a whole host of mismatches.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

If Montreal knew Michkov would come over in his D+2 season I think they would have taken him. And after seeing him torch the league in preseason, they definitely take him.

But I thought that the contract had nothing to do with their decision . That was the narrative being pushed by Hab apologists . Which I have vehemently disagreed w from the jump . Strong start by Demi but I still scratch my head over the prior pic /decision .

 

[MoneyManny]

I genuinely doubt that. If anything, Leonard would fit Montreal way of playing way more than Michkov. With a do-over, I still think Montreal takes the gamble on the 6’4 RHD

Stop it. Lots of us regret not drafting Michkov including me. Kid looks like a superstar out there your post is obvious cope.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

But I thought that the contract had nothing to do with their decision . That was the narrative being pushed by Hab apologists . Which I have vehemently disagreed w from the jump . Strong start by Demi but I still scratch my head over the prior pic /decision .

I mean that was a part of the reasoning made public by someone from the Habs organization, if I recall.

 

[TheKrebsCycle]

I mean that was a part of the reasoning made public by someone from the Habs organization, if I recall.

Correct . Lapointe. Sorry I was being somewhat rhetorical

 

[Just Linda]

Michkov and Demidov are both great talents, but let's not pretend that Carlsson isn't going to be a superstar two way center.

I do suspect they'll regret Senecke over Demidov but I doubt they'll ever regret that Carlsson choice, even if Michkov becomes the more prolific scorer.

I think superstar will be a stretch for Carlsson's potential but I agree with the sentiment.

Michkov and Demidov have the potential to be better than guys like Fantilli, Carlsson, and Lindstrom but you need a dominant man down the middle a lot more than you need a superstar on the wings.

Columbus and Anaheim both, they went for players they can win with rather than trying to build the most skilled teams. I'm a huge fan of what they did in 2023, not as much 2024, but I feel both saw it as home run swings they had to try to take.

 

[Baksfamous112]

If Montreal knew Michkov would come over in his D+2 season I think they would have taken him. And after seeing him torch the league in preseason, they definitely take him.

Yeah I mean if you look back 2-3 years after a draft you can definitely find players that were picked later that you would have preferred instead of your pick but looking back two years ago, I still think Reinbacher was the right choice. Even now, he looked pretty decent against NHLer at 19 years old. It’s unfortunate he got injured but Montreal needed (and still need) to hit on a high-end RHD and Reinbacher is the only one in the pool that has the ability to fill that need.

You could argue that Montreal could have taken Michkov and then a D but again, Silayev, Dickinson and Buium are all LHD (we have no need for one) and Yakemchuk is redundant. We don’t necessarily have a need for a pure offensive minded D and to be honest, I prefer Demidov over Michkov

Stop it. Lots of us regret not drafting Michkov including me. Kid looks like a superstar out there your post is obvious cope.

I’m sorry you regret not drafting Michkov but I personally don’t and it has nothing to do with cope. I’m not talking for all habs fan and perhaps you should do the same

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Yeah I mean if you look back 2-3 years after a draft you can definitely find players that were picked later that you would have preferred instead of your pick but looking back two years ago, I still think Reinbacher was the right choice. Even now, he looked pretty decent against NHLer at 19 years old. It’s unfortunate he got injured but Montreal needed (and still need) to hit on a high-end RHD and Reinbacher is the only one in the pool that has the ability to fill that need.

You could argue that Montreal could have taken Michkov and then a D but again, Silayev, Dickinson and Buium are all LHD (we have no need for one) and Yakemchuk is redundant. We don’t necessarily have a need for a pure offensive minded D and to be honest, I prefer Demidov over Michkov

There's no need for retrospection. Everyone knew Michkov was a better prospect than Reinbacher at the time.

They should have taken Michkov and Demidov. Draft BPA that high in the draft.

 

[Frank Drebin]

If Montreal knew Michkov would come over in his D+2 season I think they would have taken him. And after seeing him torch the league in preseason, they definitely take him.

That’s such a dumb reason to pass on a player it just makes no sense