F Igor Chernyshov - Saginaw Spirit, OHL (2024, 33rd, SJS)

[JohnLennon]

Chernyshov is doing a good job. I just don't know why it's some huge deal. He's 205+ pounds (apparently now 225). He played in the KHL last year. He was viewed as a big time player in the last draft and fell for non-hockey reasons. This shouldn't be some big surprise. Maybe the extent of the heater he's on (that'll of course regress to a more logical pace) and that he needed no time coming off his injury, but maybe playing in a significantly easier league allows for him to pick up where he left off after the injury.

How are you shocked that people on a prospect forum are impressed that a kid drafted months ago is posting 3 points per game in convincing fashion after a major surgery which often puts entire careers in jeopardy at this stage of development?

It's really not that hard to understand

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

How are you shocked that people on a prospect forum are impressed that a kid drafted months ago is posting 3 points per game in convincing fashion after a major surgery which often puts entire careers in jeopardy at this stage of development?

It's really not that hard to understand

He’s a KHL player who weighs 205-225 pounds, he was a top 20 talent from the prior draft, he was one of the older players from that draft (he’s technically in his last junior season), and he’s playing with two of the best scorers in the OHL. If you didn’t expect Chernyshov to light up these little kids, you are crazy. Maybe he would’ve needed an adjustment period of a few weeks or a month, but Chernyshov should be one of the leading scorers in the OHL.

 

[Jargon]

He’s a KHL player who weighs 205-225 pounds, he was a top 20 talent from the prior draft, he was one of the older players from that draft (he’s technically in his last junior season), and he’s playing with two of the best scorers in the OHL. If you didn’t expect Chernyshov to light up these little kids, you are crazy. Maybe he would’ve needed an adjustment period of a few weeks or a month, but Chernyshov should be one of the leading scorers in the OHL.

Yes, we are excited that he is doing well. What are these weird qualifiers? No one is saying he’s McDavid, we are excited by what he’s done so far.

 

[OilersFanatics505]

Yes, we are excited that he is doing well. What are these weird qualifiers? No one is saying he’s McDavid, we are excited by what he’s done so far.

apparently we’re not allowed to be excited about a prospect on the prospect boards. Unless he’s a 3rd year college player whos finally putting up points…

 

[one2gamble]

bust

 

[Star Platinum]

bust

 

[Bowie22]

bust

get ready to learn KHL, comrade

 

[Kshahdoo]

With 4 primary assists tonight so far.

 

[Kshahdoo]

And he scores... Finishes the game with 1+4.

 

[Finster8]

Only had 5 pts tonight how will he develop

 

[SomeDude]

And he scores... Finishes the game with 1+4.

Yea, in 3 periods.

 

[Fantomas]

Why isn't this big strapping lad playing centre?

Russian coaches are like "nope, nope, need more wingers, every player a winger from now on."

 

[Kcoyote3]

Only had 5 pts tonight how will he develop

Needs to go back to Russia

 

[WSS11]

Only had 5 pts tonight how will he develop

BuT hE’s PlAyInG aGaInSt KiDs

 

[Star Platinum]

Assist to Epperson at the end of this video

 

[Hockeyville USA]

Chernyshov is basically having the abbreviated version of the 19 year old season that Ladislav Nagy had back in the day in the Q for the Halifax Mooseheads. Nagy carved a decent NHL career, Chernyshov was always a better prospect than Nagy at the same age, expecting him to have a 10+ year NHL career.

 

[BondraTime]

He may be the best distributor from the half wall I’ve seen in a long, long time, at the very least having the best stretch.

He’s set up about 10 goals already with tap ins and 1 timers through the box. Those aren’t easy to generate.

 

[CaviarAndRinkFries]

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

BuT hE’s PlAyInG aGaInSt KiDs

And that’s kind of the point.

What would he have against more appropriate competition?

The point of a draft pick is that they develop into an NHL’er, not lead a junior league in scoring.

 

[Finster8]

Before his surgery he needed to work on finishing. Surgery was over 4 months recovery. Saginaw grabs him in the Import Draft and gets in the lineup in late January. He is doing well and has been scoring and developing his offensive game. As long as San Jose is happy, bottom line. Maybe he takes a harder more Pro route and gets injured right after surgery. Confidence is a good thing and all the BS about playing with kids is just sad. Igor has done pretty much what they thought (Sharks) he could do plus.

 

[Zine]

Before his surgery he needed to work on finishing. Surgery was over 4 months recovery. Saginaw grabs him in the Import Draft and gets in the lineup in late January. He is doing well and has been scoring and developing his offensive game. As long as San Jose is happy, bottom line. Maybe he takes a harder more Pro route and gets injured right after surgery. Confidence is a good thing and all the BS about playing with kids is just sad. Igor has done pretty much what they thought (Sharks) he could do plus.

I dunno. Undoubtedly most people would be perplexed why he's not in the KHL/VHL if he was currently destroying kids in the MHL like he is the OHL. I can imagine the complaining now ("he's being punished!")

It seems people are just happy he's playing in North America regardless of what league (CHL, AHL, etc.).

 

[Wallet Inspector]

Maybe the next Konecny i.e the super obvious pick that for some reason gets passed over by way too many teams.

 

[BondraTime]

I dunno. Undoubtedly most people would be perplexed why he's not in the KHL/VHL if he was currently destroying kids in the MHL like he is the OHL. I can imagine the complaining now ("he's being punished!")

It seems people are just happy he's playing in North America regardless of what league (CHL, AHL, etc.).

There are about 8 guys who are currently drafted playing in the MHL full time with a league of 38 teams, there are 90 guys in the OHL with 20 teams.

One league it’s not a good thing if you’re there at 18/19, as you said you’re expected to play VHL/KHL, one league it’s what’s expected at that age.

I have no problems with people saying taking a step down from the KHL to CHL could be a poor decision from him, I don’t agree but I fully get the reasoning and process behind it.

But comparing a guy drafted playing in the MHL post draft, to a guy playing in the OHL post draft seems to be ignoring everything with why the leagues are for NHL drafted prospects. He’s there playing with about 50 guys taken in the first 2 rounds of the draft, tons of guys who are tearing the league apart because it’s an extremely skilled and high level league with tons of guys who are going to be stats in the league.

Guys like Hemming, drafted within 5 slots, who also dropped from playing a full season of Pro overseas to putting up 0.8ppg thus far.

 

[Zine]

There are about 8 guys who are currently drafted playing in the MHL full time, there are 90 guys in the OHL.

One league it’s not a good thing if you’re there at 18/19, one league it’s what’s expected at that age.

I have no problems with people saying taking a step down could be a poor decision from him, o don’t agree but I fully get the reasoning and process behind it.

All top junior leagues of Canada, USA, Sweden, Russia, Finland are roughly on the same level. Of course there exists a hierarchy, but it's not night and day.

And drafted players can be a good comparison, but it's not the only thing. It's not uncommon for Russian CHLers to be drafted higher than better MHLers. NHL GM's love exposure, certainly and little risk.

But even when there is risk, I don't understand NHL GMs decisions. Drafting MHL goalies seems to be the thing lately, But it's like they throw darts at a board full of names. So many of their picks make no sense whatsoever.

 

[wetcoast]

All top junior leagues of Canada, USA, Sweden, Russia, Finland are roughly on the same level. Of course there exists a hierarchy, but it's not night and day.

Maybe there isn't a night and day difference but the actual prospects seem to think so as they flock to the CHL in huge numbers

And drafted players can be a good comparison, but it's not the only thing. It's not uncommon for Russian CHLers to be drafted higher than better MHLers. NHL GM's love exposure, certainly and little risk.

But even when there is risk, I don't understand NHL GMs decisions. Drafting MHL goalies seems to be the thing lately, But it's like they throw darts at a board full of names. So many of their picks make no sense whatsoever.

Proximity is part of it as it the fact that in North america all of the junior prospects have dreams of playing in the NHL, in Russia not as much.