F Gavin McKenna - Medicine Hat Tigers, WHL (2026 Draft)

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BondraTime

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When people say 15 year old season, they mean D-3. Casually, 18 year old season = D season, 17 = d -1, 16 = d-2, 19 year old = D+1 etc

Im referring to McKenna the prospect on a prospect forum, of course me (and everyone else here) is referring to his D-3 season when we say 15 and are comparing to other players in their D-3 season.

You can keep dying on your hill but you are talking about something different than everyone else.
That’s unbelievable reasoning :laugh: Let’s just throw all common sense out the window and create a template that doesn’t apply to ~75+ of a draft year. Drafted in your 17 year old season? That’s actually your D-1 because…

Of course guys with late birthdays have better “15” year old seasons, you’re literally not allowed to play in Junior in your 15 year old season, barring exceptional

Jeez, Celebrini is going to be playing in the NHL in his draft year, that’s amazing

For a reference, 25%ish of the draft were drafted in their 18 year old season, that number is essentially stagnant through every draft.

68ish% are drafted in their 17 year old season.
 
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That’s unbelievable reasoning :laugh: Let’s just throw all common sense out the window and create a template that doesn’t apply to ~75+ of a draft year. Drafted in your 17 year old season? That’s actually your D-1 because…

Of course guys with late birthdays have better “15” year old seasons, you’re literally not allowed to play in Junior in your 15 year old season, barring exceptional

Jeez, Celebrini is going to be playing in the NHL in his draft year, that’s amazing

For a reference, 25%ish of the draft were drafted in their 18 year old season, that number is essentially stagnant through every draft.

68ish% are drafted in their 17 year old season.
I typod that whole thing.

I meant 17 year old as the draft year, but you knew what I meant.
 
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Bubbles

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When people say 15 year old season, they mean D-2. Casually, 18 year old season = D season, 17 = d -1, 16 = d-2, 19 year old = D+1 etc

Im referring to McKenna the prospect on a prospect forum, of course me (and everyone else here) is referring to his D-3 season when we say 15 and are comparing to other players in their D-3 season.

You can keep dying on your hill but you are talking about something different than everyone else.

Edit: 17 is D, 16 is D-1 etc. Y'all know what I meant lol.

That's why most people use the "D" system instead of whatever age a person is. Outside of a few people here, no one uses age to age comparisons. The D system eliminates arguments about 16,17,18 or whatever.
 

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That's why most people use the "D" system instead of whatever age a person is. Outside of a few people here, no one uses age to age comparisons. The D system eliminates arguments about 16,17,18 or whatever.
Well, it certainly tries.
 

Bjorn Le

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He just finished his 16 year old season, not his 15 year old season, insane how many times that needs to be said

In the same season that McKenna just finished, Celebrini led the USHL in scoring by a disgusting, disgusting amount, and bypassed the Hlinka for the WJ camp.

The only tournament Bedard played in as a 15 year old he had 14 in 7 games. The only tournament he was less than a point per game was as a 16 year old in the World Juniors. McKenna never played in any international tournaments in his 15 year old season.
The USHL is a much, much weaker league than the WHL and Celebrini was 16 for his full 16 year old season while McKenna was 15 until December. It is not really comparable. Maybe Celebrini would’ve put up similar numbers to McKenna in his 16 y/o season due to better linemates (although McKenna was certainly his team’s offensive driver), but what McKenna did is certainly worth special attention.
 

BondraTime

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The USHL is a much, much weaker league than the WHL and Celebrini was 16 for his full 16 year old season while McKenna was 15 until December. It is not really comparable. Maybe Celebrini would’ve put up similar numbers to McKenna in his 16 y/o season due to better linemates (although McKenna was certainly his team’s offensive driver), but what McKenna did is certainly worth special attention.
Of course it’s worth special attention, he’s the consensus 1st overall for a reason, same as Celebrini.
 

Pavel Buchnevich

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The USHL is a much, much weaker league than the WHL and Celebrini was 16 for his full 16 year old season while McKenna was 15 until December. It is not really comparable. Maybe Celebrini would’ve put up similar numbers to McKenna in his 16 y/o season due to better linemates (although McKenna was certainly his team’s offensive driver), but what McKenna did is certainly worth special attention.
It is not much, much weaker with emphasis put on the second much. It’s probably weaker, but any sort of much weaker would be overdoing it.
 

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It is not much, much weaker with emphasis put on the second much. It’s probably weaker, but any sort of much weaker would be overdoing it.
Nope, it is much much weaker. Because it is a feeder league for the NCAA, at the top talent level it punches above the BCHL and CHL feeder leagues and therefore it does fairly well in terms draft picks, but outside the top talent the depth is 2-3 steps lower than the CHL. The USHL is also a younger league than the CHL, which exacerbates the skill difference. It’s why Celebrini, who would’ve been a 70-85 pt player as a 16 year old in the WHL most likely, can walk into the USHL as a 16 year old and instantly be the best player in the league.
 

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