F Danila Yurov - Metallurg Magnitogorsk, KHL (2022, 24th, MIN)

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There is a natural problem to it some KHL teams have. MMG's VHL affiliate is 3000km away in Angarsk near Baikal. And to add insult to injury there were some news about serious financial trouble the VHL team was having recently.

I am no Magnitogorsk or Ural insider so I don't know why MMG changed their VHL affiliations so often recently and why they moved away from more local VHL teams which are plenty in the hockey hotbed Ural. But obvously signing off the affiliation with a team near Irkutsk MMG was not counting on using it much for development of young players. My understanding is there aren't even direct flights to Irkutsk. You'd have to have an eight hour grind of a connection with a layoff in Novosibirsk. So you can't really move a guy there quickly and then convenietntly get him back for the next game. Not to mention that your highly regarded prospect might not like the idea of being sent to see Baikal and stay with a VHL team that is struggling in each and every way. I guess MMG's general idea of development is using the MHL/KHL duo in their case. Some KHL teams do that. Not every KHL team has a very tight structure of MHL/VHL/KHL affiliations as MHL teams grew naturally from hockey schools owned directly by the KHL teams. VHL affiliates are often stadanlone teams that are just brought in on a contract.

Makes sense. Yurov would have to spend most of the year in the VHL then to avoid too much travel. If not, a KHL/MHL season would be the best choice
 
Magnitka needs to start giving him more playing time. This guy should’ve had that role from the start of the season. I wonder if he looks for a mutual termination after this season to go to the NHL. I’d prefer he develop in Russia, but that has to be in the KHL and a regular role.
 
So is he receiving less minutes this year then last year? 21 games as a 16 year old in the KHL seemed impressive. Hasn’t hurt his draft position

Yeah, but this season Metallurg was the hottest team for a while, so they just didn't have a spot for him. And then they became pretty cold, so again didn't have a place for Yurov. Typical shit from KHL clubs. You gotta play in some shithole to get tons of TOI in the league as a youngster. Like Kaprizov in Novokuznetsk or Tarasenko in Sibir (yeah, Novosibirsk is a great city, but Sibir sucked back to then).
 
The scouts are all over this guy, this is one prospect who will not be flying under the radar, despite the lack of playing time. I believe he is a consensus top 10 at this point.
 
The usual tale about minutes again. Let it rest. He is with a good org where the coaches care a lot about his development. He can't play in the VHL because their VHL affiliate team is too far away. Playing in the MHL wouldn't do much for him as he is at this point a 2 PPG player there.
 
The scouts are all over this guy, this is one prospect who will not be flying under the radar, despite the lack of playing time. I believe he is a consensus top 10 at this point.
There is the WJC ahead. He will get more than enough exposure there. And I am sceptical about some prospects who are penciled in to go high in 2022. I don't really care where Yurov gets picked, but rather by which team. He might be not a Top10 guy, but way higher talent wise.
 
Magnitka needs to start giving him more playing time. This guy should’ve had that role from the start of the season. I wonder if he looks for a mutual termination after this season to go to the NHL. I’d prefer he develop in Russia, but that has to be in the KHL and a regular role.
He is 17 ffs. What mutual termination? This is exactly the stance that gets them nowhere. It's okay to play those minutes at that age. If he is more mature and stronger next year he will get more minutes.
 
He is 17 ffs. What mutual termination? This is exactly the stance that gets them nowhere. It's okay to play those minutes at that age. If he is more mature and stronger next year he will get more minutes.

You can say that, but do you think he’s happy to play 45 seconds per game? He must be frustrated. Nobody wants to train every day but not play in games. If he’s a top 10 pick, which I’m sure he will be, that heightens the situation. His future is going to be in the NHL, and I don’t think anyones going to be satisfied with another season of barely playing. Teams and players are now more willing to have the player leave early. I don’t think that’d be good, so I hope he starts getting more regular minutes, but Yurov may ask for a contract termination for next season and I don’t think Magnitka is going to stand in the way of a guy they barely use. Don’t be surprised and blame it all on the player if Yurov is playing AHL next season.
 
There is the WJC ahead. He will get more than enough exposure there. And I am sceptical about some prospects who are penciled in to go high in 2022. I don't really care where Yurov gets picked, but rather by which team. He might be not a Top10 guy, but way higher talent wise.

His talent is obviously ahead of every center not named Savoie or Wright (I personally can't even rule out Yurov being on that top tier level). Emphasis on obvious. If he doesn't go top 5 in the draft I don't think it will be because scouts are unaware of his abilities, it will probably be the Russia factor - when does he want to come over, etc... Unless things change on the ice, everyone should know how good he is by the draft.
 
His talent is obviously ahead of every center not named Savoie or Wright (I personally can't even rule out Yurov being on that top tier level). Emphasis on obvious. If he doesn't go top 5 in the draft I don't think it will be because scouts are unaware of his abilities, it will probably be the Russia factor - when does he want to come over, etc... Unless things change on the ice, everyone should know how good he is by the draft.

Russia factor is definitely not an issue here. Anyone playing 1 minute a game wants out. I would bet on Yurov in the AHL (or even NHL) next season. What the KHL is doing to his development is tragic.
 
His development is fine. Plenty of guys went to the AHL and came out lemons.

Yeah but for the talented 18 year old Russian AHL players who faced similar situations in Russia as Yurov, Guryanov and Kostin are looking pretty good so far in the NHL. Yurov if he indeed has that level of talent shouldn't be too hindered by a move to the AHL either
 
Imagine Yurov's agent saying to him "go to the AHL, you might turn out like Kostin."

And Yurov will be like, "sure boss, ahyuck!"

Those are examples, Yurov is supposed to be top 5 with a higher potential than both Guryanov and Kostin. I'm saying it may not be the most ideal but he can still succeed with that path.
 
He is 17 ffs. What mutual termination? This is exactly the stance that gets them nowhere. It's okay to play those minutes at that age. If he is more mature and stronger next year he will get more minutes.

He's 18 without 15 days. Look at where Buchnevich was at his age, and you don't think Buchnevich was that talented...
 
You can say that, but do you think he’s happy to play 45 seconds per game? He must be frustrated. Nobody wants to train every day but not play in games.
Once again, it's overblown. You only think that because your expectations say it isn't normal. In Russia, it is normal. Many players, some of them great, have been in this position before. Frustration only comes if you fail to accept the role that you knew you are going to play.

Being with the first team is seen (mostly) as a perk to a kid - you train with men, you get paid like one, etc. I have no doubt that if it really came to Yurov considering contract termination and such Magnitka would be happy to send him down. Almost certainly, he is the one who doesn't want it to happen.

He's 18 without 15 days. Look at where Buchnevich was at his age, and you don't think Buchnevich was that talented...
Terrible argument. If anything, when Buchnevich was "18 without 15 days" he spent most of his time in the MHL. And that's while playing for Severstal, not Magnitka.
 
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