F Charlie Stramel - Michigan State University, NCAA (2023, 21st, MIN)

[Pavel Buchnevich]

 

[Wildabeast]

Wisconsin is so bad. They are 2-8 and have only scored 2 goals in their last 4 games.

It’s going to be a tough season for Stramel and everyone else on that team.

This is the NCAA team I always shutter when good prospects go to play there. I think Granato is completely overrated.

This is most definitely Granato's last season in Wisconsin, which makes me very sad as a Gopher fan.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

This is most definitely Granato's last season in Wisconsin, which makes me very sad as a Gopher fan.

Why is it his last season?

 

[Leviathan899]

I saw that also.

Wheeler doesn’t like Stramel. This is well documented. He didn’t like Gauthier either. Interesting that he likes Fantilli so much, who is similar to those players. I guess a lot of secondary assists on the most talented team in college hockey will do that for you.

I’ve mentioned before that the season comparable to look to is Dylan Holloway. They play a similar style and are late birthdays that played their draft season at Wisconsin.

Holloway had 3 points in his first 8 games, and 17 points in 35 games. He was 8th on the team in points and he got drafted 14th. That team was bad, but they were a high scoring team. Their goaltending sucked. This Wisconsin team can’t score.

Stramel will be fine. It’s laughable where Wheeler has him.

I also previously debunked Wheeler’s constant claim that Stramel is the third wheel on his line.

Quoted below. I’m sure Wheeler reads this website. Not looking to antagonize him. If I’m wrong, explain why because I explained why that take is wrong.

Wheeler is one of the worst evaluators of talent in the business. Just flat out clueless, but what can you expect from a guy who spent his entire life playing house league hockey and can barely skate. I know that’s not a prerequisite to knowing the game, but he knows squat. Decent writer and that’s it. His opinions mirror the online Twitter scouting community consensus, and 99% of them don’t watch games. Just copy each other’s list and move a plauer or two around a few spots to make it look original

 

[Leviathan899]

He could come around.. I didn't even like him last year though. I haven't seen really anything that stands out about his skill set. He's decent offensively and it's in a nice physical package but that doesn't really lend itself to being a top 20 pick in a draft like this.

This draft is overrated, it’s not much different than most drafts outside of the top 3-4 prospects. Look at a guy like cal Ritchie, projected top 10 pick and might not even finish PPG this year. Not many good D in the first round at all and Cam Allen doesn’t look like a top prospect either. Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov are all legit but the rest of the draft is run of the mill

This is the kind of thinking that gets Lawson Crouse and Pavel Zacha drafted in the top half of the 1st round of deepest draft in a decade.

Lawson Crouse would still go in the top half of the first round of his draft year.

 

[WhiskeyYerTheDevils]

Lawson Crouse would still go in the top half of the first round of his draft year.

Ummm no he wouldn't. Not by a mile.

McDavid
Eichel
Marner
Kaprizov
Rantanen
Aho
Barzal
Connor
Werenski
Meier
Hintz
Hanifin
Chabot
Provorov
Andersson
Terry
Carlo
Konecny
Cirelli
Mangiapane
Boeser
Kylington
Garland
Gavrikov
Beauvillier
Zacha
Eriksson Ek
Debrusk

He'd be lucky to be a first round pick.

 

[Leviathan899]

Ummm no he wouldn't. Not by a mile.

McDavid
Eichel
Marner
Kaprizov
Rantanen
Aho
Barzal
Connor
Werenski
Meier
Hintz
Hanifin
Chabot
Provorov
Andersson
Terry
Carlo
Konecny
Cirelli
Mangiapane
Boeser
Kylington
Garland
Gavrikov
Beauvillier
Zacha
Eriksson Ek
Debrusk

He'd be lucky to be a first round pick.

Touché

 

[haulinbass]

Touché

You might of been right in most years, but that just happened to be a hell of a draft

 

[Leviathan899]

You might of been right in most years, but that just happened to be a hell of a draft

Yeah you’re right, looking at that list right now and it’s incredible how many good players the draft has netted so far.

 

[Lavar Ball]

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

He had 2 points. 3 in his last 2. He's picking it up. Most people are putting Stramel way too low in rankings. He won't fall out of the top 15.

He's 52% on face-offs in the NCAA as a U18 freshman having taken over 200 face-offs so far this season. Thats good.

 

[QJL]

He had 2 points. 3 in his last 2. He's picking it up. Most people are putting Stramel way too low in rankings. He won't fall out of the top 15.

He's 52% on face-offs in the NCAA as a U18 freshman having taken over 200 face-offs so far this season. Thats good.

Not as good as other freshmen who have taken 200+ like Fantilli, Laba, and Leclerc.

Nice week for Stramel but I’d pick some other stats if you’re going to hype him.

He’s in the 15-25 range for me. Safe pick with a lower ceiling than most other 1st round options.

 

[Lavar Ball]

Picked up a goal against Minnesota tonight

 

[montreal]

 

[95snipes]

Watching him at Wisco, David Backes is the comp I'd use. Stramel is a better skater though. His release is really good and he's physical. Like most power forward types, it may take some time for him to put it all together, but he has the tools I think.

 

[Pavel Buchnevich]

Watching him at Wisco, David Backes is the comp I'd use. Stramel is a better skater though. His release is really good and he's physical. Like most power forward types, it may take some time for him to put it all together, but he has the tools I think.

Another comparison I saw recently is Lawson Crouse. Crouse was viewed as a bust for a long time, and probably won't justify his draft position, but he's starting to become a top 6 NHL'er. If Stramel can't stick at center, Crouse could be a good comparison.

 

[Jersey Fan 12]

Curious as to why this thread ended prior to the World Juniors?

Finished his first season with the Badgers with five goals and seven assists in 33 games and had three assists for Team USA in the WJC.

Seems like late first, early second round sounds about right.

Is there a way to update the header thread?

 

[Bonin21]

His coach is out, if he wants to transfer to the Gophers after making the wrong decision the first time.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

His coach is out, if he wants to transfer to the Gophers after making the wrong decision the first time.

Granato was a waste. He might get some good teammates now.

 

[Bonin21]

Granato was a waste. He might get some good teammates now.

He's going to play one, maximum two more years there. That is not enough time to overhaul the roster around him.

 

[William H Bonney]

He'll get more guaranteed ice time at Wisconsin. He's not going to win there but he needs to maximize his playing time.

 

[MMC]

Welcome to Minnesota

 

[Dominance]

Sorry, but that’s an insane pick. If you wanted a big centre, Ritchie is right there, with an infinitely greater ceiling.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

Welcome to MN!

 

[Saga of the Elk]

Can't help but feel it's a brutal reach in a draft where multiple guys with scoring prowess were still on the board.

Same as it ever was, creating a team "identity" that is "unable to score goals, but not too easy to score on usually."