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F Andrew Cristall - Kelowna Rockets, WHL (2023, 40th, WSH)

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I think he’ll definitely be in contention for an NHL spot next year, but I think they’ll probably want him to play a year in Hershey first, since Miroshnichenko would be ahead of him at the moment on the depth chart. If Cristall pans out at the NHL level, what a potentially great draft for the Caps getting Leonard and him.
 
GRob83 said:
This is the team that drafted Filip Forsberg, Tom Wilson and Chandler Stephenson with their first 3 picks in 2012. Hopefully they don't do anything stupid to screw this up.
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Very different times. When Forsberg was traded, the Caps had bombed in the playoffs five years in a row, had churned through three coaches in three years, the Young Guns era looked like it was ending quickly, and McPhee was flailing around trying to save his job.

Much more stable organization now with a clear plan on who they are and how they want to play. I don’t think you need to worry about knee-jerk decisions to try and grasp victory from the jaws of defeat.

Plus, two of those guys helped Washington win a Cup and one helped usher in BMac and Trotz (and TJ Oshie).
 
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trick9 said:
Tij Iginla without Andrew Cristall (away as WSH camp):

3 games - 1+0

Tij Iginla after Andrew Cristall back:

6 games - 8+6


Kelowna Rockets without Andrew Cristall:

1-5-0

Kelowna Rockets with Andrew Cristall:

4-1-1
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He’s always been the heartbeat of that team. I remember when he was injured or something his draft year, Kelowna was just a dreadful team to watch. His ability to create offense has always been amazing. He is the type of player that amplifies his teammates.

Those players are so hard to find. I couldn’t believe he fell to the second round. I’ve always thought he’s a player that is capable of having a lot of success in the NHL.
 
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Fraser28 said:
Blackhawks will regret not drafting him with their pick in the second round - was such an obvious choice to me in the moment even. Childhood friend of Bedard too.
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Not sure on Blackhawks in particular as a Bedard sized player that isn't as good as Bedard [through junior level] probably isn't the most pressing of needs, but yes if he continues scoring as he moves over to Pro the way he does at WHL, I imagine a whole bunch of teams will regret not drafting him with the opportunity.
 
WarriorofTime said:
Not sure on Blackhawks in particular as a Bedard sized player that isn't as good as Bedard [through junior level] probably isn't the most pressing of needs, but yes if he continues scoring as he moves over to Pro the way he does at WHL, I imagine a whole bunch of teams will regret not drafting him with the opportunity.
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IMO that’s exactly the wrong kind of mindset - we don’t need another small skilled player. Oh really? The fact that teams keep making those mistakes is baffling.
 
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Fraser28 said:
What do you mean explain? I just said it. It makes no sense to think a team shouldn’t take a second small skilled player because they already have one.
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Well yeah but you only have so many draft picks and have used other draft picks on small, skilled guys as well (like Nazar 1st round, 13th overall, '22 draft). They took Nick Lardis in the third from same draft, who is also a small skilled guy. It's not like the one and only thing you can draft for is small skilled guys.
 
Teams passed over Cristall not only because of his size but there were also serious questions about his skating at the time. Those two factors combined are not insignificant.

And to be honest, yes, while he's great in juniors, it still remains to be seen if his 'limiting factors' will be an issue in pro hockey.
 
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I am watching Kelowna because of Jakub Stancl and damn if Andrew Cristall isn't stealing the show every game. It is possible size could limit him in a level up. The skills are there and he sees the game so well.
 
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PocketNines said:
I am watching Kelowna because of Jakub Stancl and damn if Andrew Cristall isn't stealing the show every game. It is possible size could limit him in a level up. The skills are there and he sees the game so well.
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He looked very good during camp with the Capitals and was among their best players. Many wanted him to get the 9 NHL games as he looked ready for it.
 
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Kuz said:
He looked very good during camp with the Capitals and was among their best players. Many wanted him to get the 9 NHL games as he looked ready for it.
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Carbery even said he outplayed his competition (aka actual NHL players) in pre-season, but they sent him back to juniors for the sake of his development.
 
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The number of under 20 dudes that look great in preseason but then completely fade when real games start is way to high to count. Dunno why people put so much stock into pre season still. Its obviously a good sign, but in preseason youre not facing anywhere near the same level of play as the regular season. NHL regulars are probably trying at like 50% in the pre season, theyre just going through the motions.

Unfortunate he cant play in the AHL, but hes gotta show he can dominate when the games get tougher like in the playoffs or the WJC if he gets selected. If he can do that, I'd have much more faith in him potentially sticking and actually looking like he belongs in the regular season for next year.
 
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