F Alexis Lafreniere (2020, 1st, NYR) part 3

[Jabba11]

No bad team deserves Lafreniere more than the other one. It's all gonna go down by who's the luckiest to win the lottery. It'd be awesome for the Habs to pick him in Montreal, dream come true. But, so much parity nowadays and odds are less incline to make the last team win the lottery.

 

[LarKing]

Detroit is historically bad and unlike a team like Montreal, a poor season will hurt us, whereas with them they’re going to get fantastic turnout either way.

Now that you all feel bad for me and my franchise I would like to take the opportunity to say:

f*** this lottery system as I know we’re going to get boned yet again and pick 4th.

 

[ninetyeight]

**** this lottery system as I know we’re going to get boned yet again and pick 4th.

It's a good year to be picking top4 though. Alexis is in a league of his own, but right now it seems like the 3-8th ranked guys aren't that far from Byfield (things can obviously change though)

 

[LarKing]

It's a good year to be picking top4 though. Alexis is in a league of his own, but right now it seems like the 3-8th ranked guys aren't that far from Byfield (things can obviously change though)

Yeah I agree. It’s a good year to be awful if that’s any consolation. It’s just also frustrating that the team that reaped all the rewards of being awful got McDavid++++ and then it’s ensured no other team will have a chance to do anything like that. Not as frustrating because Edmonton is still not great, but I think you get what I’m saying.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Yeah I agree. It’s a good year to be awful if that’s any consolation. It’s just also frustrating that the team that reaped all the rewards of being awful got McDavid++++ and then it’s ensured no other team will have a chance to do anything like that. Not as frustrating because Edmonton is still not great, but I think you get what I’m saying.

Yep, myself and every fan of rebuilding teams should hope nothing but the worst for Edmonton. They ruined their own franchise while also screwing over the rest of the league while they’re at it. The simpler rule should have just been that you can’t pick 1st overall more than twice in a row.

I hope Edmonton stays awful forever.

 

[LarKing]

Yep, myself and every fan of rebuilding teams should hope nothing but the worst for Edmonton. They ruined their own franchise while also screwing over the rest of the league while they’re at it. The simpler rule should have just been that you can’t pick 1st overall more than twice in a row.

I hope Edmonton stays awful forever.

Meh I’m not that spiteful. I do agree a rule should be in place like that though.

 

[Sweetpotato]

Yep, myself and every fan of rebuilding teams should hope nothing but the worst for Edmonton. They ruined their own franchise while also screwing over the rest of the league while they’re at it. The simpler rule should have just been that you can’t pick 1st overall more than twice in a row.

I hope Edmonton stays awful forever.

Oil fans can feel the love.

It's not like we wanted an incompetent franchise lol

 

[RedHawkDown]

Oil fans can feel the love.

It's not like we wanted an incompetent franchise lol

Well nobody has anything against Oil fans. We jsut hate the oilers. Not your fault, but yes I’ll continue hoping the team is bad forever.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Oil fans can feel the love.

It's not like we wanted an incompetent franchise lol

It’s not the fans, I do feel bad for them.

But with how incredibly bad they screwed up their rebuild despite receiving every gift possible (and Lowe’s infuriating condescending comments) I just can’t bring myself to wish them success

 

[Panthaz89]

Detroit is historically bad and unlike a team like Montreal, a poor season will hurt us, whereas with them they’re going to get fantastic turnout either way.

Now that you all feel bad for me and my franchise I would like to take the opportunity to say:

**** this lottery system as I know we’re going to get boned yet again and pick 4th.

It only took us 3 years of being in last place to get that no.1 luckily it was Dahlin at least before that we couldn't drop to 4th in 2014, 2015 like Colorado happened to do twice. Lottery feels like such a cop out for the league because right now with the media coverage currently you can tell when a team is trying to tank at all costs....and no trading a few players right before the trade deadline is not really punishable even though some people think that the Sabres goaltenders were some untouchable gods at the time for some reason yet it was ok for the Coyotes to trade Dubnyk at the beginning of the season who had a winning record for them that season was ok for everyone.

 

[nbwingsfan]

It only took us 3 years of being in last place to get that no.1 luckily it was Dahlin at least before that we couldn't drop to 4th in 2014, 2015 like Colorado happened to do twice. Lottery feels like such a cop out for the league because right now with the media coverage currently you can tell when a team is trying to tank at all costs....and no trading a few players right before the trade deadline is not really punishable even though some people think that the Sabres goaltenders were some untouchable gods at the time for some reason yet it was ok for the Coyotes to trade Dubnyk at the beginning of the season who had a winning record for them that season was ok for everyone.

The Sabres in 2015 was a very obvious tank job.

Traded both their goalies for worse versions for a couple late 3rds. Traded away 3 roster players and the big piece in return was a guy who was already shut down for the season. Traded away 3 other roster players.

Not that I think it was the wrong choice, it was just very obvious they were hoping to lose every game.

 

[Panthaz89]

The Sabres in 2015 was a very obvious tank job.

Traded both their goalies for worse versions for a couple late 3rds. Traded away 3 roster players and the big piece in return was a guy who was already shut down for the season. Traded away 3 other roster players.

Not that I think it was the wrong choice, it was just very obvious they were hoping to lose every game.

Johnson had more wins than both of those sorry goalies for the Sabres one year later(actually had a winning record)...Enroth is out of the league and Neuvirth is horrid...why wouldn't you trade them if you were offered a 3rd round picks at the deadline...what the hell would the Sabres be looking to gain in February when they are literally already out of the playoff race. Only an idiot GM wouldn't have traded the goalies for picks at that point. Lindback had better save percentage and GA numbers than either of them. Nearly every team trades at the deadline for futures for veterans.....its just that because it was the McDavid year that everyone decided to hate on any team that happened to be in last place no one hates the Coyotes despite them letting Smith shit the bed for 60+ games had they finished last instead they would of gotten the hate instead.

 

[nbwingsfan]

Johnson had more wins than both of those sorry goalies for the Sabres one year later(actually had a winning record)...Enroth is out of the league and Neuvirth is horrid...why wouldn't you trade them if you were offered a 3rd round picks at the deadline...what the hell would the Sabres be looking to gain in February when they are literally already out of the playoff race. Only an idiot GM wouldn't have traded the goalies for picks at that point. Lindback had better save percentage and GA numbers than either of them. Nearly every team trades at the deadline for futures for veterans.....its just that because it was the McDavid year that everyone decided to hate on any team that happened to be in last place no one hates the Coyotes despite them letting Smith **** the bed for 40+ games had they finished last instead they would of gotten the hate instead.

Can you name me any other teams who traded both of their goalies for a backup and a career minor leaguer? I can’t think of a single one off the top of my head.

Can you think of any other teams who traded a bunch of roster players, some very good, for a guy who was already shut down for the season?

They purged that team in hope of losing. Again nothing wrong with it, just a blatant attempt to get the best lottery odds.

 

[Panthaz89]

Can you name me any other teams who traded both of their goalies for a backup and a career minor leaguer? I can’t think of a single one off the top of my head.

Can you think of any other teams who traded a bunch of roster players, some very good, for a guy who was already shut down for the season?

They purged that team in hope of losing. Again nothing wrong with it, just a blatant attempt to get the best lottery odds.

Do you even read? Johnson had a WINNING RECORD in 2015 he literally won 24 games in 45 and lost 20 a year after...Enroth and Neuvirth together won 16 games with the Sabres in 64 games tell me more how this backup is so bad compared to the goalies we traded lol Enroth won 12 more games in 3 years of playing and Neuvirth was ok at best for the rest of his career so far and has been an ok backup goalie. As for a team that traded away a bunch of roster players for Kane and 1st round pick when the season was over Kane is much better than every player they traded just because he was shutdown means nothing when the season is already over for the Sabres and like I said Coyotes trade Dubnyk for a 3rd round pick who was 9-5-2 early in the season to let Mike Smith play for 60+ games who's numbers were god awful and worse than anybody on the Sabres except surprisingly Enroth and Hackett who only played 5 games. Lindback put up better save pct and GAA on the same team.

 

[BuiumSaveUs]

His tape job has been extremely cocky ever since he got back from the WJC. It’s like 3 strips at the toe

 

[Jacob]

His tape job has been extremely cocky ever since he got back from the WJC. It’s like 3 strips at the toe

Any pictures?

 

[QJL]

Lafreniere has passed Rossi and McMichael in ppg. Now the CHL leader.

 

[jj cale]

As per my viewpoint on where he should land.



He likely won't end up in Montreal and that's a damn shame but It is the right market for him to play in, the one where if the Hockey gods are listening he will end up in, you will never convince me otherwise and I say that not just as a Montreal Canadiens fan but as a fan of the game of hockey, the game in Quebec, the game in Canada itself and the NHL.

 

[Anardil]

The market that deserves him most is the market where they know how to pronounce his name correctly and spell it correctly between his shoulders... just sayin'

 

[member 157595]

Maybe so but then Toronto and Edmonton management and ownership didn't deserve their gifts either. And I have not seen anything out of detroit management lately that suggest they deserve anything either.

But point taken, Bergy and Molson are bad, really bad. Montreal fans know only too well.

The Leafs finally figured out that the best chance of acquiring elite players is not by scraping together mediocrity, and that a tear down was necessary. The hard part for them is finishing the job and due to their lack of cap space that's not going to get any easier.

Edmonton was a very different scenario, where they weren't really trying to rebuild but were so astonishingly mismanaged in every way for so long that they just kept blowing ass year after year. It remains to be seen if they can improve their depth going forward but they have the best player in the world and one of the best players in the world both signed long-term for good value so they can't be ignored.

Montreal has always been afraid to rebuild and it's hurting them. They've been starved for impact forwards for as long as I've been a psychological trainwreck (that's a long time) and their best chance at getting those guys is at the top of the draft. The thing is, the pressure on Lafreniere if Montreal wins the lottery would be, frankly, unbelievable. He'd be viewed as the savior not just of the Habs but of an entire province. That's awfully tough for a kid to handle, no matter how talented. Knowing Bergevin, if the Habs won the lottery he'd probably dump off some of Montreal's prospect depth in an effort to be more competitive while Price can still play, which I think would bite the Habs in the ass in the long term.

 

[SympathyForTheDevils]

Lafrenière ejected from the game (for his 4th time this year I think?) for a hit to the head. Don't think the primary point of contact was actually the head, but it was definitely a dangerous blind-side hit.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

The market that deserves him most is the market where they know how to pronounce his name correctly and spell it correctly between his shoulders... just sayin'

Psh, we already have the first two letters on the FRONT of our jersey!

 

[Filthy Dangles]

His tape job has been extremely cocky ever since he got back from the WJC. It’s like 3 strips at the toe

Pics?

This is from the Prospects game a few days ago

 

[Michael Brand Eggs]

The market that deserves him most is the market where they know how to pronounce his name correctly and spell it correctly between his shoulders... just sayin'

So you're saying... Toronto?

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

The market that deserves him most is the market where they know how to pronounce his name correctly and spell it correctly between his shoulders... just sayin'

Can't wait for all the other fans crying conspiracy theories of why Montreal won the lottery this year with the draft at home and the French phenom ranked 1OA