F Adam Fantilli - Univ. of Michigan, NCAA (2023 Draft)

[Marc the Habs Fan]

So fighting + game misconduct = 1 game suspension?

 

[macbowes]

So fighting + game misconduct = 1 game suspension?

Yeah, in the NCAA if you fight, you get a "Game Disqualification", which means you're out for that game and the next.

Still though, Fantilli with the Gordie Howe Hatty is pretty f***in sick. Fantilli is going to be unreal, whoever gets him is very lucky.

 

[montreal]

 

[Torts]

Love the response to the MSU crowd lol!

 

[Lavar Ball]

 

[bsu]

Softie

 

[ponder]

He’s not that flashy, but who cares, he’s all substance. Big/strong, pretty physical, competes hard, strong 2-way play, borderline elite skater, great shot, very good hands and hockey IQ. He doesn’t have Eichel’s high end skill, but could be a rich man’s Beniers/Larkin. Similar game to those two, but he’s a decent margin ahead of where they were at the same age, and has better tools too IMO. Has a pretty strong shot to become a legit 1C at the NHL level.

I have a lot of trouble ranking him, Carlsson and Michkov, but they’re all great. If my team were picking in the 2-4 range, I’d be happy with any of them, at any of those positions. I don’t really get ppl being down on him because he didn’t dominate at the WJCs, he was playing a minimal role, and did put up one of the better performances I’ve seen from a non-1st-overall draft eligible forward for team Canada.

 

[gilfaizon]

He’s not that flashy, but who cares, he’s all substance. Big/strong, pretty physical, competes hard, strong 2-way play, borderline elite skater, great shot, very good hands and hockey IQ. He doesn’t have Eichel’s high end skill, but could be a rich man’s Beniers/Larkin. Similar game to those two, but he’s a decent margin ahead of where they were at the same age, and has better tools too IMO. Has a pretty strong shot to become a legit 1C at the NHL level.

I have a lot of trouble ranking him, Carlsson and Michkov, but they’re all great. If my team were picking in the 2-4 range, I’d be happy with any of them, at any of those positions. I don’t really get ppl being down on him because he didn’t dominate at the WJCs, he was playing a minimal role, and did put up one of the better performances I’ve seen from a non-1st-overall draft eligible forward for team Canada.

I feel like he really found his game as the tournament progressed. Looked really good in the final few games in limited minutes.

 

[canuckking1]

He probably goes 1st in drafts 2019-2022. Close with Hughes, but without foresight, most teams take the bigger C dominating college.

 

[93LEAFS]

He probably goes 1st in drafts 2019-2022. Close with Hughes, but without foresight, most teams take the bigger C dominating college.

I think Hughes, Kakko, and Laf likely go ahead of him, not with 100% certainty, as it's not a massive enough gap I can't see a minority of teams seeing Fantilli as the best option. Laf's hype was pretty ridiculous even if I disagreed with how extreme it got at points. People thought Laf was a lock to be an impact player on his ELC and pretty much a lock to be #1 winger, which makes how he's looking 3 years into his NHL career quite shocking (as he was viewed as very pro-ready, with a high floor, but maybe not top 5 NHL player level upside). I do think Fantilli goes #1 in 2021 and 2022 though. Kakko had a pretty strong season in a men's league followed with a strong World Championship. Hughes was setting records at the USNTDP a program that has produced multiple elite players in recent years. He likely would go first in 2017 and would have had a pretty good shot in 2014,

 

[MichaelFarrell]

I think Hughes, Kakko, and Laf likely go ahead of him, not with 100% certainty, as it's not a massive enough gap I can't see a minority of teams seeing Fantilli as the best option. Laf's hype was pretty ridiculous even if I disagreed with how extreme it got at points. People thought Laf was a lock to be an impact player on his ELC and pretty much a lock to be #1 winger, which makes how he's looking 3 years into his NHL career quite shocking (as he was viewed as very pro-ready, with a high floor, but maybe not top 5 NHL player level upside). I do think Fantilli goes #1 in 2021 and 2022 though. Kakko had a pretty strong season in a men's league followed with a strong World Championship. Hughes was setting records at the USNTDP a program that has produced multiple elite players in recent years. He likely would go first in 2017 and would have had a pretty good shot in 2014,

I think Fantilli would go ahead of Kakko. But, you bring up a good point about Lafreniere. I think Fantilli being a center definitely would’ve made it a debate. However, Lafreniere’s predraft resume was ridiculous. Two time CHL player of the year, WJC Gold, WJC MVP, and made QMJHL first all-star team his rookie year. I wasn’t following prospects in 2019-20 as much as I am now, but I was certain that Laf was going to put up 60 points his rookie year.

 

[Postulates]

I think Hughes, Kakko, and Laf likely go ahead of him, not with 100% certainty, as it's not a massive enough gap I can't see a minority of teams seeing Fantilli as the best option. Laf's hype was pretty ridiculous even if I disagreed with how extreme it got at points. People thought Laf was a lock to be an impact player on his ELC and pretty much a lock to be #1 winger, which makes how he's looking 3 years into his NHL career quite shocking (as he was viewed as very pro-ready, with a high floor, but maybe not top 5 NHL player level upside). I do think Fantilli goes #1 in 2021 and 2022 though. Kakko had a pretty strong season in a men's league followed with a strong World Championship. Hughes was setting records at the USNTDP a program that has produced multiple elite players in recent years. He likely would go first in 2017 and would have had a pretty good shot in 2014,

i see this as well just off the descriptions that Bob Mckenzie gave in his draft rankings about how people see Fantilli as a 1b/2 c

Compared to what you read about the other 3

 

[ponder]

I think Fantilli would go ahead of Kakko. But, you bring up a good point about Lafreniere. I think Fantilli being a center definitely would’ve made it a debate. However, Lafreniere’s predraft resume was ridiculous. Two time CHL player of the year, WJC Gold, WJC MVP, and made QMJHL first all-star team his rookie year. I wasn’t following prospects in 2019-20 as much as I am now, but I was certain that Laf was going to put up 60 points his rookie year.

Agreed, if they were all in the same draft, with no other knowledge about how they’d pan out, I think Laf goes 1st. IMO, if you put Fantilli in with the top prospects from 2019-2022, I think the top 10 looks something like:
1. Laf
2. Fantilli
3. Hughes
4. Kakko
5. Power
6. Beniers
7. Byfield
8. Stutzle
9. Slaf
10. Nemec

 

[Just Linda]

Agreed, if they were all in the same draft, with no other knowledge about how they’d pan out, I think Laf goes 1st. IMO, if you put Fantilli in with the top prospects from 2019-2022, I think the top 10 looks something like:
1. Laf
2. Fantilli
3. Hughes
4. Kakko
5. Power
6. Beniers
7. Byfield
8. Stutzle
9. Slaf
10. Nemec

I don't feel Laf had that level of hype among NHL scouts. I often heard him described as a more physical Huberdeau leading into the draft. I also think Kakko didn't get the same hype either, he always felt like a throw in for his spot that year, I'd put him below Byfield.

 

[MichaelFarrell]

Agreed, if they were all in the same draft, with no other knowledge about how they’d pan out, I think Laf goes 1st. IMO, if you put Fantilli in with the top prospects from 2019-2022, I think the top 10 looks something like:
1. Laf
2. Fantilli
3. Hughes
4. Kakko
5. Power
6. Beniers
7. Byfield
8. Stutzle
9. Slaf
10. Nemec

I think that’s pretty accurate in terms of mock draft projection. It’s interesting to think where Slaf and Nemec would actually go in that draft if there were more interesting options available.


If we include all prospects from 19-22 in their draft year, my personal rankings would be:

1. Bedard
2. Lafreniere
3. J Hughes
4. Fantilli
5. Kakko
6. Carlsson
7. Michkov
8. Beniers
9. Power
10. Stutzle
11. Byfield
12. MacTavish
13. L Hughes
14. Raymond
15. Slafkovsky

 

[montreal]

 

[majormajor]

Agreed, if they were all in the same draft, with no other knowledge about how they’d pan out, I think Laf goes 1st. IMO, if you put Fantilli in with the top prospects from 2019-2022, I think the top 10 looks something like:
1. Laf
2. Fantilli
3. Hughes
4. Kakko
5. Power
6. Beniers
7. Byfield
8. Stutzle
9. Slaf
10. Nemec

I could be wrong but for the record, my memory is a little bit different from yours. I think Fantilli goes ahead of Laf. Laf was sluggish at times in the Q and didn't show much growth. That and he was a winger in the Q, I think that most teams take the center that is ripping up the better league.

And a side note, I remember Byfield and Stutzle being closer to Laf, clearly behind but not super far behind. I think they go ahead of Beniers and maybe Power.

 

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[montreal]

most of his shifts from the outdoor game, if not all of them.

 

[Lavar Ball]

 

[613Hockey]

Highlights and analysis for the 6'2" 191lbs forward at U. of Michigan

https://youtu.be/mZF5ySlhEKE

 

[macbowes]

I see a lot of Zibanejad in Fantilli. Here is an except from this scouting report from The Hockey Writers in 2011:

Strengths:

• Straight-away speed
• Soft Hands
• Heavy Shot
• Plays Physical Hockey
• Intangibles
• Good passing
• Leader – Passionate Player
• Responsible Backcheck

Flaws/Aspects He Needs To Work On:

• Inability to be elusive
• First Step Quickness
• Discipline

Not all of these are the same for Fantilli, of course. I think Fantilli plays more East-West, and a one-timer isn't a primary weapon. I think Fantilli has better playmaking and passing than Zibby had, so Fantilli might end up scoring less and assisting more. Regardless, he's a fantastic prospect with an elite toolbox.

 

[ManwithNoIdentity]

Soon he will belong to us

 

[Kojo]

Agreed, if they were all in the same draft, with no other knowledge about how they’d pan out, I think Laf goes 1st. IMO, if you put Fantilli in with the top prospects from 2019-2022, I think the top 10 looks something like:
1. Laf
2. Fantilli
3. Hughes
4. Kakko
5. Power
6. Beniers
7. Byfield
8. Stutzle
9. Slaf
10. Nemec

That's pretty f***ing funny if you really think Beniers would be selected 6th here. Should be ahead of just about everyone else you put before him. Your list is garbage.

 

[Garo]

That's pretty f***ing funny if you really think Beniers would be selected 6th here. Should be ahead of just about everyone else you put before him. Your list is garbage.

Did you read their first sentence before trying to look all mighty or

Beniers was definitely far less hyped than anyone above there, it's not very arguable.