Explain why Richards was waived, but Dustin Brown wasn't

[icKx]

To be fair you were the one who brought up "1st in the West"

He said I'm mad. Just pointing out I'm a pretty happy hockey fan right now.

 

[King'sPawn]

Not everyone lives in the Kings region, or has time to watch every team play. It was a valid question based on the numbers and a million *******s have to answer sarcastically or get super defensive of their players.

OP didn't say that he thinks Brown sucks and he should definitely be demoted.

If someone can't watch the Kings play on regular basis, how else do suggest they find out about a player, besides asking those who do watch the player on regular basis?

1) There are numerous threads about Richards possibly being on the block, with the possibility of Richards being a compliance buyout.

2) Bringing up raw numbers without any sense of context is silly. Bringing up an alternative player suggests he would be a better option.

3) When has a thread about Brown ever been discussed civilly? Or Richards recently?

Nothing wrong with asking questions, but this was poorly worded at best in a forum where the discussion would quickly degrade.

 

[Cashville]

intanjuhbulz

Intangibles.

Had no idea what the first poster said, then read the second post, and /headsmack.

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

It's flat out bs. He has injured more players in one season than most do in their career.

It's just not defensible

Surprised it took this long. No one ever defended that knee on Schwartz. But to say he's injured more players in one season than most do in their careers? Can you back that up?

 

[Sacha Baron Corbin]

is his play on about the same level of Richards'? yeah, and it has been for 2+ years

Have you watched a game this season? Did you watch last night? Brown has been one of our best forwards this season.

Comparing him to Richards is garbage as far as I'm concerned. He's brought 100x more than Richards did this season

 

[Stopsight]

Surprised it took this long. No one ever defended that knee on Schwartz. But to say he's injured more players in one season than most do in their careers? Can you back that up?

I don't see how a player can be called in anyway clean after even 1 attempted hit like that. It's one of the most black and white attempts to injure in sports I've ever seen.



Browns recent body of work:


Injuries
April 23 2013 - Pominville


May 12 2012 - Roszival


December 2013 - Hertl


April 2013 - Roussel



Attempted Injuries/Minor injuries

February 2014 - Tarasenko
http://i.imgur.com/EROEcnE.png

February 2014 - Ryan "Murphy"


May 2013 - Schwartz
http://cdn0.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1587475/dustinknee_medium_medium.gif


Bonus Round, Dives and embellishment





Double whammy, jumping into hit and then embellishment





There are more but this is making me depressed. He's a disgrace to the sport and somehow he's an NHL captain. what a joke.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Can't stand Brown and think he's a piece of work, but he isn't Bryan Marchment out there. Let's dial it back a notch.

 

[KINGS17]

If your best attribute is diving and embellishing and your second best is throwing elbows and knees are you really a hockey player?

If you think these are his best attributes as a player, then you are obviously have a bias as an observer and shouldn't be taken seriously in regards to any posts regarding Brown.

 

[redcard]

I don't see how a player can be called in anyway clean after even 1 attempted hit like that. It's one of the most black and white attempts to injure in sports I've ever seen.

Alright, this will be fun. A reminder that your initial claim is that "Brown injures more players in one season than most guys do in their career."

Browns recent body of work:


Injuries
April 23 2013 - Pominville.

This is his only suspension. Pominville was injured on the play.

May 12 2012 - Roszival.

Going for an open ice hit, Rosival attempts to duck out of the hit but leaves his leg behind. You leave your leg behind when someone's trying to hit you, guess what's going to get hit? Rosival suffered only a bruise. It came out very shortly after the series that Rosival's ailment had been greatly exaggerated by Dr. Shane Doan.

December 2013 - Hertl.

You can clearly see Brown has Hertl lined up, then attempts to avoid contact. Hertl also gets caught in no man's land, where he can't decide whether to brace for contact or evade the hit, and like Rosival leaves his leg out. Hertl was injured on the play. Though less hesitation and indecision by either players would have prevented that.

April 2013 - Roussel.

I'm amazed that this keeps getting posted, really just shows you're googling with no intent of actually analyzing the plays. ITS A FREAKING FLOP. Brown only makes contact with Roussel's arm, and Roussel's OWN STICK hits himself in the face. Antoinne then goes full starfish mode and lies on the ice like he's been shot. He was not injured on the play, so why its in your 'injuries' column I do not know. It should instead be in your diving highlight reel.

So that's two injuries to back up your claim that Brown injures more players in a season that most do in their career? Good Job.

 

[Stopsight]

Alright, this will be fun. A reminder that your initial claim is that "Brown injures more players in one season than most guys do in their career."



This is his only suspension. Pominville was injured on the play.





Going for an open ice hit, Rosival attempts to duck out of the hit but leaves his leg behind. You leave your leg behind when someone's trying to hit you, guess what's going to get hit? Rosival suffered only a bruise. It came out very shortly after the series that Rosival's ailment had been greatly exaggerated by Dr. Shane Doan.



You can clearly see Brown has Hertl lined up, then attempts to avoid contact. Hertl also gets caught in no man's land, where he can't decide whether to brace for contact or evade the hit, and like Rosival leaves his leg out. Hertl was injured on the play.



I'm amazed that this keeps getting posted, really just shows you're googling with no intent of actually analyzing the plays. ITS A FREAKING FLOP. Brown only makes contact with Roussel's arm, and Roussel's OWN STICK hits himself in the face. Antoinne then goes full starfish mode and lies on the ice like he's been shot. He was not injured on the play, so why its in your 'injuries' column I do not know. It should instead be in your diving highlight reel.

So that's two injuries to back up your claim that Brown injures more players in a season that most do in their career? Good Job.

How many players seriously injure more than 2 players in their career even if you do get to magically discount the multiple other injuries posted? Few, very few. The Roussel hit is a hit targeted at his head regardless of whether its the stick or Brown that did the damage.

Must get exhausting as a kings fan to defend this behavior, maybe after he retires you will be able to admit he's scum on ice.

 

[redcard]

How many players seriously injure more than 2 players in their career even if you do get to magically discount the multiple other injuries posted? Few, very few. The Roussel hit is a hit targeted at his head regardless of whether its the stick or Brown that did the damage.

Must get exhausting as a kings fan to defend this behavior, maybe after he retires you will be able to admit he's scum on ice.

Tell you what, i'll try and come up with a way of fitting the other 2500 or so hits of his career into a YouTube list and then you can try and convince me the other players that haven't injured 2 players in there career succeeded in doing so for any reason other than lack of repetition.

And no, in no world is making contact solely with a guys arm targeting the head.

 

[Bandit]

How many players seriously injure more than 2 players in their career even if you do get to magically discount the multiple other injuries posted? Few, very few. The Roussel hit is a hit targeted at his head regardless of whether its the stick or Brown that did the damage.

Must get exhausting as a kings fan to defend this behavior, maybe after he retires you will be able to admit he's scum on ice.

Not nearly as much fun as it is to watch people continuing to whine about him as he keeps winning cups.

 

[FishMonger]

Anyone who posts the Rozsival hit as evidence of Brown being dirty immediately loses all credibility.

Not a knee
Not late
Rozy only had a small boo-boo from the hit.

Seriously, that video is only evidence of the ignorance of the poster.



Richards has been terrible all season. Terrible passing, lackluster play, poor decisions. Brown hasn't been perfect, but nobody on the team has. Richards has stood out as a bad player, even among the bad play of the Kings.

 

[SmytheKing]

Congrats? When is the banner ceremony? And what exactly does your team have to do with anything that's been said in this thread?

Don't give them any ideas. The Wings already raise banners for winning the conference during the regular season.

 

[LeeIFBB]

So when does Carter demand a waive?

 

[Riddum]

It wasn't long ago that Richards was a terrific player. His fall from grace is sad. I remember when he used to terrorize Ovi in Philly.

I heard he liked to party hard though, maybe that caught up to him. He's still young though, he has a chance to get back to a good level.

 

[Quid Pro Clowe]

Don't give them any ideas. The Wings already raise banners for winning the conference during the regular season.

Every team hangs those banners. Kings would but they haven't had any.

.... yes, i know, cups...

 

[Bee Sheriff]

So when does Carter demand a waive?

 

[kingsholygrail]

I don't think I've seen a bigger hate ***** for Dustin Brown.

 

[kingpest19]

How many players seriously injure more than 2 players in their career even if you do get to magically discount the multiple other injuries posted? Few, very few. The Roussel hit is a hit targeted at his head regardless of whether its the stick or Brown that did the damage.

Must get exhausting as a kings fan to defend this behavior, maybe after he retires you will be able to admit he's scum on ice.

So Brown hits Roussel on the arm and he's aiming for his head?


And claiming the Ryan Murray hit as an attempt to injure? Holy jeebus. Murray bailed on that hit at the last second was Brown supposed to magically not make the hit happen?

 

[Crede777]

The answer is quite simple: The Kings want Brown to continue to play for them while I don't think they want Richards (at his current cap hit).

I think they shopped Richards and likely found a few teams willing to take him if the Kings footed a good part of his salary. So either that's what they'll do or, more likely, they'll buy him out and let another team sign him to a lesser contract.

 

[Steve Zissou]

For all the Brown haters... these must really tweak their noodle.

 

[Michel Beauchamp]

If I was Richards, I would go to Europe at this point. I would be embarrassed with my name if I was riding buses in the ahl.

He can rent his own limousine...

More seriously, is this a case of a player's lifestyle catching up with him?

Unless the trade from Philadelphia was a wake-up call and had him seriously diminish the partying.

 

[ILoveStephanieBrown]

For all the Brown haters... these must really tweak their noodle.

Yes, because mediocre and crappy players have never won Stanley Cups before.

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

He can rent his own limousine...

More seriously, is this a case of a player's lifestyle catching up with him?

Unless the trade from Philadelphia was a wake-up call and had him seriously diminish the partying.

The thing is, there are a ton of potential reasons, some speculative, some grounded in fact...but I doubt it's any one single reason. More likely a combination of circumstances.