Expectations for Tyler Bertuzzi

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Honestly they are pretty high for me, I'm thinking he's going to have a career year because chances are he's on the top line with Matthews and Marner.

And even if he's not he's still on a line with Tavares and Nylander.

Regardless I think he can have a career year

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[The Iceman]

Honestly they are pretty high for me, I'm thinking he's going to have a career year because chances are he's on the top line with Matthews and Marner.

And even if he's not he's still on a line with Tavares and Nylander.

Regardless I think he can have a career year

It all comes down to health for him, if he can stay healthy the sky is the limit.
He is on a 1 year prove it, in his prime, and will land with the best 2 linemates he has ever had.

Do not think he will be PP1 to start which will hurt his end of season totals.

 

[TMLAM34]

Just to stay healthy. The production will come as long as he gets into games.

 

[Puckstuff]

I think 70 points is very possible playing with Matthews or Marner and maybe more, but I don’t expect it. I’d expect something closer to 60-65 games and 45 points.

 

[IceColdBear]

20 + goals, 50ish points is my expectation.

There is a real chance he gets 30 goals and 70 + points if he gets top PP time and gels with our top guys.

 

[Puckstuff]

20 + goals, 50ish points is my expectation.

There is a real chance he gets 30 goals and 70 + points if he gets top PP time and gels with our top guys.

I basically said the same thing

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

It all comes down to health for him, if he can stay healthy the sky is the limit.
He is on a 1 year prove it, in his prime, and will land with the best 2 linemates he has ever had.

Do not think he will be PP1 to start which will hurt his end of season totals.

Nor should he start PP 1.

Now that he, Domi and Klingberg are here PP1 doesn't need to play the entire PP.

Because PP2 has Bertuzzi, Domi and Klingberg on it.

 

[acrobaticgoalie]

If he's healthy and plays a full year, I'm expecting around 65 pts.

 

[Mess]

Depends on his usage.

If he plays wingman with Matthews and also takes Nylander's spot on PP#1 his upside is 30 goals 65 points,

Otherwise his downside floor (if healthy) 20 goals 50 points

 

[Evilhomer]

I think so many of you are underestimating Bertuzzi. I think he is going to get top 6 minutes and heavy power play time all season, which will result in an easy 35+ goals so long as he doesn't miss too much time. Last season was a complete aberration for him.

 

[Stephen]

I think so many of you are underestimating Bertuzzi. I think he is going to get top 6 minutes and heavy power play time all season, which will result in an easy 35+ goals so long as he doesn't miss too much time. Last season was a complete aberration for him.

Just thinking next contract a little bit, but would it not be in the best interests of the Leafs as an organization if Bertuzzi and Nylander can steal points and PP production from one another so neither have massively padded stats? Balance it out between the two, feed Domi a bone here and there and hope to get both signed up to easier to manage contracts?

 

[The Iceman]

Nor should he start PP 1.

Now that he, Domi and Klingberg are here PP1 doesn't need to play the entire PP.

Because PP2 has Bertuzzi, Domi and Klingberg on it.

I think you will find Mr Klingberg will man PP1 more often than not.

 

[Evilhomer]

I think you will find Mr Klingberg will man PP1 more often than not.

Yup. I have no doubt that is exactly what Treliving has brought him in to do. Don't be surprised if you see Klingberg hit 60 points this season. He is going to clean up on the power play.

 

[Al14]

Honestly they are pretty high for me, I'm thinking he's going to have a career year because chances are he's on the top line with Matthews and Marner.

And even if he's not he's still on a line with Tavares and Nylander.

Regardless I think he can have a career year

Career year or not, he is likely NOT a Leaf after this coming season.

If he has a career year, we won't have the cap space to meet his demands. If he sucks, well, there is little chance he is re-signed either.

He is another one year wonder IMHO.

 

[Stephen]

Yup. I have no doubt that is exactly what Treliving has brought him in to do. Don't be surprised if you see Klingberg hit 60 points this season. He is going to clean up on the power play.

Maybe Klingberg gets PP1 specialist duties while Rielly is encouraged to be more mindful defensively.

 

[LEAFANFORLIFE23]

Career year or not, he is likely NOT a Leaf after this coming season.

If he has a career year, we won't have the cap space to meet his demands. If he sucks, well, there is little chance he is re-signed either.

He is another one year wonder IMHO.

The Leafs have nothing but money after this year even with Matthews extension.

If they want to keep Tyler Bertuzzi they easily can.

 

[Sypher04]

Career year or not, he is likely NOT a Leaf after this coming season.

If he has a career year, we won't have the cap space to meet his demands. If he sucks, well, there is little chance he is re-signed either.

He is another one year wonder IMHO.

No way to really know at this point in time

 

[Avilaj07]

Career year or not, he is likely NOT a Leaf after this coming season.

If he has a career year, we won't have the cap space to meet his demands. If he sucks, well, there is little chance he is re-signed either.

He is another one year wonder IMHO.

I wouldn't count on that, both Bertuzzi and the Leafs wanted to sign something long term but couldn't do to the cap. After this season, the Leafs will have roughly 30+ million in cap space with Brodie, Muzzin, Domi, Klingberg, Bertuzzi, Nylander, and others off the books. Obviously they are going either going to resign, trade or just let some of these guys go but after this season. I would respect Bertuzzi to remain a Leaf.

 

[Mess]

Just thinking next contract a little bit, but would it not be in the best interests of the Leafs as an organization if Bertuzzi and Nylander can steal points and PP production from one another so neither have massively padded stats? Balance it out between the two, feed Domi a bone here and there and hope to get both signed up to easier to manage contracts?

The strategy between Lou Lam and Babcock was to keep all 3 Amigo apart while on ELC in an attempt to manage 2nd contracts RFA years to set up the greatest opportunity for Cup success, by keeping thier contracts in check via your suggestion here. Matthews and Marner never played together to avoid stats padding opportunities for the players with next contract considerations in mind. The 4 X RFA years of the 3 amigo's on cost controllable RFA contracts was being set up to maximixe Cup competitiveness.

Now with their bloated overpaid contracts the Leafs have to extract maximum value with limited cap space from the supporting cast .. So for the Leafs to find playoff success we really need max return from players like Bertuzzi, Domi and Klingberg etc and can't worry about next contracts because we haven't even reached full capacity of Cap Hell yet, when AM and WN new deals kick in and Marner and JT are still under contract as that is the year of re-signing these current players will come into play once their 1 year deals end also,

I wish we could actually fast-forward 2 years in advance and get out from under that boat anchor contract of JT and perhaps even Nylander traded for a top pairing Dman, and we only have a couple double digit mercenary contracts in Matthews and Marner left, because that is when we can really start building a supporting cast around them. So I see these current players more as 1 year rentals only to buy TIME for a future proper rebuild. IMO

So Bertuzzi could score 30 goals in the regular season and 20 more in the playoffs and ask for the moon on his next deal and I'd be fine with that outcome, because 2024-25 is going to be Cap Hell on Earth for the Leafs. ,

 

[Evilhomer]

I wish we could actually fast-forward 2 years in advance and get out from under that boat anchor contract of JT and perhaps even Nylander traded for a top pairing Dman, and we only have a couple double digit mercenary contracts in Matthews and Marner left, because that is when we can really start building a supporting cast around them. So I see these current players more as 1 year rentals only to buy TIME for a future rebuild. IMO

Come on, this is so overly dramatic for the sake of being dramatic. Rebuild? You are a fan of a Cup contending team and you want to plan a rebuild? It's silly. It's like you want them to lose.

 

[Mess]

Come on, this is so overly dramatic for the sake of being dramatic. Rebuild? You are a fan of a Cup contending team and you want to plan a rebuild? It's silly. It's like you want them to lose.

 

[Evilhomer]

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It would be a very poor strategy to disassemble a team that is legitimately capable of winning for the hope of a different team that may or may not be capable of doing so. I often think that fans of this team are more excited by the hope of winning than actually watching the process of winning occur. Maybe it is an age or maturity thing on a site like this, but anyone who believes that failure does not precede, and in fact is not almost universally a requirement of, success hasn't lived much of a life.

 

[VanillaCoke]

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[Jojalu]

It all comes down to health for him, if he can stay healthy the sky is the limit.
He is on a 1 year prove it, in his prime, and will land with the best 2 linemates he has ever had.

Do not think he will be PP1 to start which will hurt his end of season totals.

Domi, Bertuzzi, Knies, Jarnkrok and Klinburg could be a very good 2nd PP unit but I doubt they will get more than 30 secs on ice per PP

 

[Leafs87]

I’d say similar to Bunting, less or a pest who may actually go a few times vs just embarrassing himself