Player Discussion Evgeni Dadonov: A New Dad in Town

Belial

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Did that article not say that he's upset that he's a healthy scratch or has it been a long day for me and I totally misread it?
It was MSL that got pissed being constantly asked about Dadonov.

Nothing there about Dadonov being pissed or showing bad attitude.
 

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The bolded part is what happened. A few members of the media circus are trying to fish for controversy or ask questions already asked in every media scrum and MSL is getting real tired of it.

Before the season started Dadonov said he didn't care where he played on the alignment (lines and both wings). He's been good on the PK, which he never played before, so he's not totally useless when the Habs PK last season was near dead last. Also, at his age (33 years old), he knows he's not getting an NHL contract next season.

What might the return be for Monahan and Drouin?
 

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Call me crazy but I would’ve loved to acquire Pacioretty in exchange for Weber, rather than Dadonov. I mean since they gave Pacioretty away for nothing…

Dadonov has my sympathy on a personal level and I hope he can look back on this season with the Habs with fond memories but he looks totally irrelevant to the team’s interests.

I doubt the Habs can sell Dadonov (and Byron and Drouin) for anything at all, at this point.

If you can’t make one of the worst teams in the NHL, a top playoff team won’t have any use for you even for free.
 

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Call me crazy but I would’ve loved to acquire Pacioretty in exchange for Weber, rather than Dadonov. I mean since they gave Pacioretty away for nothing…

Dadonov has my sympathy on a personal level and I hope he can look back on this season with the Habs with fond memories but he looks totally irrelevant to the team’s interests.

I doubt the Habs can sell Dadonov (and Byron and Drouin) for anything at all, at this point.

If you can’t make one of the worst teams in the NHL, a top playoff team won’t have any use for you even for free.
The Dadonov trade was bad for bad.

Pacioretty had some value...
 

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The problem with Dadanov, Drouin, and Hoffman is that they are all able to play Caufield’s role, but not as well. They need play drivers the habs don’t have to let them finish plays. Each might be useful to a team with play drivers and no snipers except play drivers are rare and snipers are relatively plentiful.

They look worse than they should because there are so many of them on the same team. It might make sense with 4 offensive centers with 4 physical wingers who only do puck retrieval. It’s spectacularly bad team building.
 

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The problem with Dadanov, Drouin, and Hoffman is that they are all able to play Caufield’s role, but not as well. They need play drivers the habs don’t have to let them finish plays. Each might be useful to a team with play drivers and no snipers except play drivers are rare and snipers are relatively plentiful.

They look worse than they should because there are so many of them on the same team. It might make sense with 4 offensive centers with 4 physical wingers who only do puck retrieval. It’s spectacularly bad team building.
Drouin is the complete opposite of those two... He's a playmaking winger.
 

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Drouin is the complete opposite of those two... He's a playmaking winger.
Very debateable........the guy is like a groundhog, scared of his own shadow. He has found his sweet spot, upstairs.
He has the ability to find the odd open guy for a nice assist, but absolutely nothing else. and it wont work with MSL.
Dadanov right now is also in his sweet spot, upstairs.......both are probably going to get us nothing for trade value, no one would entertain picking up either, at this rate.
 

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Very debateable........the guy is like a groundhog, scared of his own shadow. He has found his sweet spot, upstairs.
He has the ability to find the odd open guy for a nice assist, but absolutely nothing else. and it wont work with MSL.
Dadanov right now is also in his sweet spot, upstairs.......both are probably going to get us nothing for trade value, no one would entertain picking up either, at this rate.
They'll get back into the lineup... Pezzetta was pathetic tbh
 

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The Dadonov trade was bad for bad.

Pacioretty had some value...
I always thought about that. I wonder if we could have somehow gotten Pacioretty in the Weber trade.

As a pending UFA, if he hadn't gotten hurt, he would have had a lot of value. In fact even if he comes back healty and lights it up, he might have had a lot of value. Caufield-Suzuki-Pacioretty anyone?
 

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I always thought about that. I wonder if we could have somehow gotten Pacioretty in the Weber trade.

As a pending UFA, if he hadn't gotten hurt, he would have had a lot of value. In fact even if he comes back healty and lights it up, he might have had a lot of value. Caufield-Suzuki-Pacioretty anyone?
No, Weber trade was bad contract for bad contract.

Pacioretty was not a bad contract.

They just needed cap space and traded him for nothing (Cap space).
 

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I always thought about that. I wonder if we could have somehow gotten Pacioretty in the Weber trade.

As a pending UFA, if he hadn't gotten hurt, he would have had a lot of value. In fact even if he comes back healty and lights it up, he might have had a lot of value. Caufield-Suzuki-Pacioretty anyone?
Dadonov had less value than Pacioretty.

Weber had negative value, versus zero for future considerations.

The lesser valued Vegas player went for the lower return. I don't think Vegas does a Pacioretty for Weber deal especially since they would still have been stuck with Dadonov.
 
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26Mats

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No, Weber trade was bad contract for bad contract.

Pacioretty was not a bad contract.

They just needed cap space and traded him for nothing (Cap space).

Yeah, we would have had to add for it to be Pacioretty instead of Dadonov.

IF in fact Pacioretty's value was 0 and Dadonov's negative value was a 2nd, we could have at least taken back both Pacioretty and Dadonov and then used a 2nd to get rid of Dadonov. The gamble being that Pacioretty gets you much better th as n a 2nd at the TDL.

BUT, I think Dadonov's negative value wasn't as bad as a 2nd in the summer after his strong finish last year... Now it's probably worse than a 2nd...
 

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They'll get back into the lineup... Pezzetta was pathetic tbh
Pezzetta is a 14th F. If he is kept around for his attitude and in case of several injuries, I'm ok with it.

Or we could trade him at low salary for a very small return.
 

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I think he would clear waivers TBH.
Maybe. However, the other three are even more likely to clear waivers, and it disrupts the team less to have Pezzetta in the press box with maybe one vet, than to live with two established formerly productive guys sitting out a lot.

To me a Dadonov who can't pick up any points is the first to waive. His PK role can go to Armia.
 
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Maybe, however, the other three are even more likely to clear waivers, and it disrupts the team less to have Pezzetta in the press box with maybe one vet, than to live with two established formerly productive guys sitting out a lot.

To me a Dadonov who can't pick up any points is the first to waive.
Would be interesting to know the vibe in the room...
 

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