Rumor: Everything JT Miller | Elias Pettersson trade Thread

[Bourne Endeavor]

Realistically what team could beat an offer of Dylan Cozens & Bowen Byram? Not saying the Sabres will offer it, but You get two super young , good players already somewhat established with definite room to grow and take their game to the next level. I’ve always been a huge cozens guy and think he’s definitely going to pop off when in the right situation (like Jack, Sam, ror ect.) I just don’t think any other team could pony up an offer like that without including prospects and picks

Minnesota is probably the only team that could. And that's assuming they would even consider Rossi+ which I don't think they do. Why change what's working for them?

 

[RWatson29]

Minnesota is probably the only team that could. And that's assuming they would even consider Rossi+ which I don't think they do. Why change what's working for them?

Yeah Minnesota is a team that has a ton of young guys who are on the cusp of the NHL and probably one of my favourite prospect pools in the entire league but unless you’re adding a guy like Jiricek or Buium on top of Rossi (which like you said doesn’t make sense given you guys are already solid) I dont think it’s equivalent to Cozens/Byram

I also think Cozens/Byram is alotttttt to give up but I’m not moving them for picks and prospects so if that’s the price for a guy like petey I guess I’d bite the bullet

 

[Trxjw]

Rangers are stuck. They want to move the overpaid deadweight that is aging for improvements but there are too many NTC's and NMC to overcome. Look how long it took to move Trouba.

Miller likely waives for the Rangers but who's waiving to go to the Canucks? Rangers probably want to keep their youth so you can count out Lafreinere and anybody close to his age.

Seems difficult to find a fit that works for both sides.

Nobody really knows what the Rangers are doing. They're always linked to everything. Every pundit is ranting about how they need more "meat and potatoes" guys over the weekend and their first move claimed Kaliyev yesterday who is anything but.

The only thing that's clear is that they want to move away from this older core. Adding another aging vet who will inevitably decline makes no sense.

 

[RWatson29]

Do rangers fans actually think Zibanejad gets them EP40??? I knew most were delusional but my god

 

[Quinning]

McAvoy for ep40. One for one.

I'd be all over this but I doubt Boston would do it.

Hughes-McAvoy is a Cup winning top pairing.

 

[alphafox]

Realistically what team could beat an offer of Dylan Cozens & Bowen Byram? Not saying the Sabres will offer it, but You get two super young , good players already somewhat established with definite room to grow and take their game to the next level. I’ve always been a huge cozens guy and think he’s definitely going to pop off when in the right situation (like Jack, Sam, ror ect.) I just don’t think any other team could pony up an offer like that without including prospects and picks

Not sure if it beats it or the Jackets would do it, but I could See Cole Sillinger, Cayden Lindstom, and Proverov put together. It would be a huge price to pay but the jackets could do it without much of a hit.

 

[Peter Griffin]

Rangers are stuck. They want to move the overpaid deadweight that is aging for improvements but there are too many NTC's and NMC to overcome. Look how long it took to move Trouba.

Miller likely waives for the Rangers but who's waiving to go to the Canucks? Rangers probably want to keep their youth so you can count out Lafreinere and anybody close to his age.

Seems difficult to find a fit that works for both sides.

KAM/Schneider, Chytll is something that has been discussed on the Canucks’ board. Don’t love the idea of Chytll with his concussion issues but if they truly want to move of of Miller they’ll have to consider all options.

 

[Muffin]

Miller went full McDavid and told Pettersson to “dig in”. Pettersson waved him off.

No facts that there is any issue between them, it’s just drummed up media talking.

Former players that were on the team has come out and said there’sa real issue

 

[Three On Zero]

Former players that were on the team has come out and said there’sa real issue

Former players that were on the team have also come out and said there’s no issue.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Both players have a NMC. This is much deeper than just a "turned it down" reply. Canucks deserve better than Ziby if they trade Miller but I doubt Ziby waives for Vancouver.

Zibby's contract is not ideal. He's clearly slowing down at age 31 and is signed till age 37. Not a contract you want in return if you trade Miller anyways.

Isn't Miller like 32?

 

[Habs Halifax]

Isn't Miller like 32?

Turns 32 in March and signed until age 36.

I see where you might be heading with this but Miller is showing no signs of slowing down while Ziby is. Ziby turns 32 in April and signed for the same term/age.

I believe many will agree that Miller > Ziby

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Turns 32 in March and signed until age 36.

I don't see either guy aging well.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I don't see either guy aging well.

Well one is not aging well right now and the other is. Maybe both of them are anchor contracts at age 34+ but there is value difference from age 31-33 though right?

Miller would waive for the Rangers IMO but Ziby probably does not waive his NMC for the Canucks. Canucks don't care because they like Miller more and for obvious reasons.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Well one is not aging well right now and the other is. Maybe both of them are anchor contracts at age 34+ but there is value difference from age 31-33 though right?

Miller would waive for the Rangers IMO but Ziby probably does not waive his NMC for the Canucks. Canucks don't care because they like Miller more and for obvious reasons.

Is Zibby the guy who is passionate about DJ'ing? I think I heard something about one of their guys who does this on the side /in the summer?

 

[Turin]

Miller went full McDavid and told Pettersson to “dig in”. Pettersson waved him off.

No facts that there is any issue between them, it’s just drummed up media talking.

This is obviously not true.

 

[RWatson29]

Former players that were on the team have also come out and said there’s no issue.

Its way past no issue at this point imo

 

[dire wolf]

Is Zibby the guy who is passionate about DJ'ing? I think I heard something about one of their guys who does this on the side /in the summer?

yep

 

[BlueAzN]

What is the main motivation behind this? Are they just gonna behind Quinn Hughes? They’re still a great team with the two players in trade discussions

 

[UrbanImpact]

I'd be all over this but I doubt Boston would do it.

Hughes-McAvoy is a Cup winning top pairing.

Miller, Suter is not a Cup Winning 1-2 Centre though.

Watching Willander play alot at BU this season and at the WJC im convinced he is a top pairing Dman or at the very least a top 4. With him and Hronek on the Right Side id rather target a Top 4 LD.

Value wise, I think Mcavoy is just in between Miller and Pettersson....Too much for Miller but not enough to get Pettersson on its own.

 

[GbgRanger]

Well. The canucks doesnt seem to be that interested in keeping Miller... Zib has been close to ppg in playoffs

Both players have a NMC. This is much deeper than just a "turned it down" reply. Canucks deserve better than Ziby if they trade Miller but I doubt Ziby waives for Vancouver.

Zibby's contract is not ideal. He's clearly slowing down at age 31 and is signed till age 37. Not a contract you want in return if you trade Miller anyways.

Zibanejad has been a slow starter for years now and has been ppg in the last few playoffs. 16 for 16 last playoff which is better than ep40.

Watch March-Mika take off down the stretch as he goes back to a meatbased diet.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Well. The canucks doesnt seem to be that interested in keeping Miller... Zib has been close to ppg in playoffs


Zibanejad has been a slow starter for years now and has been ppg in the last few playoffs. 16 for 16 last playoff which is better than ep40.

Watch March-Mika take off down the stretch as he goes back to a meatbased diet.

Even if the Canucks agree to the trade, I believe Miller waives but Ziby does not.

 

[RWatson29]

Well. The canucks doesnt seem to be that interested in keeping Miller... Zib has been close to ppg in playoffs


Zibanejad has been a slow starter for years now and has been ppg in the last few playoffs. 16 for 16 last playoff which is better than ep40.

Watch March-Mika take off down the stretch as he goes back to a meatbased diet.

You aren’t getting miller for zibanejad straight up, but I can get you another pillow for your dream

 

[Habs Halifax]

Minnesota is probably the only team that could. And that's assuming they would even consider Rossi+ which I don't think they do. Why change what's working for them?

I very much doubt the Canucks trade Pettersson for Rossi+. Rossi is having a good season but there is no way the Canucks take a 5'-9" center as the prime piece.

Some teams can touch the Cozens/Byram offer but they won't because their circumstances are not the same as the Sabres. Sabres are tired of losing so they are prepared to make a move for the talented Pettersson.

 

[duckpuck]

Minnesota is probably the only team that could. And that's assuming they would even consider Rossi+ which I don't think they do. Why change what's working for them?

The ducks could as well. Lots of young depth at center and other good young players (not to mention draft picks). Not sure they would offer McTavish . . . but they would include Zegras ++. Ducks could also throw in some rental pieces for a pus this year (Fabbri/Dumoulin).

 

[Breakers]

My god the delusion of this zibinejad trade straight up for Miller

NOBODY wants zibby, he's playing like a mixture of hot garbage and cold trash.
He should have been healthy scratched but he wasnt for some reason

so vancouver is just ditching THIS production for a guy who is allergic to back checking and sucks 5v5

I'll bet this scoring over the past 4 seasons is top 10 in the NHL
Miller's defensive game may be a bit overrated
but he is tough to play against, is a center, and produces. plain and simple.