Rumor: Evans asking for $4M x 5 years

[BaseballCoach]

I said it before and I'll say it a again. He is new Lars Eller and is asking for the current version of Lars Eller money. Its probably fair. Maybe we do some deffered salary + bonus combo shenanigans to get the cap hit lower.

No more than 4 years @ $3.5 AAV for a solid guy with limited scoring ability.

 

[shaner8989]

Lot of money for a guy who has 1 goal in his last 23 games and only 3 assists. He had a hot streak for about 2 weeks otherwise a really weak career.

 

[Sorinth]

Right away no but wont take the 5 years Evans wants.

As long as Evans continues to play well over the next few years he would be tradeable if/when a young guy is ready to replace him. If in 2 years we are looking to move him because he's lost his spot you can quite easily trade him, we probably get something similar to what Nashville got for Carrier, a prospect with potential but going through struggles.

 

[LaP]

I'd cash in personally. What we need for next season is a 2nd line center.

 

[sampollock]

move him

 

[ReHabs]

move him

I hope Dach’s injury doesn’t convince Gorton and Hughes to keep Evans “for stability” or whatever such thing.

We need to sell Evans to recoup some value lost on Dach

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I hope Dach’s injury doesn’t convince Gorton and Hughes to keep Evans “for stability” or whatever such thing.

We need to sell Evans to recoup some value lost on Dach

Dach Injury is proving that Dach not being in the top 6 changes nothing neither does Evans in the top 9

 

[HuGo Sham]

I'm leaning towards moving him as if I have any f***ing say

We always tend to be starved for C's and this obviously influences my desperation, but he's cashing in on his last big pay day, which is completely understandable.
HuGo have shown 0 inclination to go long on term or keep guys past an expiration date - IF they can get rid of them (Lehkonen, Toffoli, Monahan, etc) so I think he's gone.
That being said, they obviously have a plan to find someone to play 2 & 3 C.
I don't think it's Dach....Beck is the 4C next year imo

 

[Habs13]

I said it before and I'll say it a again. He is new Lars Eller and is asking for the current version of Lars Eller money. Its probably fair. Maybe we do some deffered salary + bonus combo shenanigans to get the cap hit lower.

Eller is and always was a far better player than Jake Evans.

 

[TennisMenace]

Simple question to see where we’re all at

Negotiate it down to 3-3.5 M for 3-4 years.

 

[Rapala]

Let's figure out what Bergevin would do and then do the opposite...

Wait remember the season re-signing Paul Byron was our TDL move.

 

[ZUKI]

What if he ends up like Gallagher? 5 years is a long time. 3.5 seems more reasonable for 5 years. Easier pill to swallow Imo.

God ! it could happen to any player of the Tricolores !?!?

The best to do at that point is to move the team to an USA city. Adios amigos!

 

[ZUKI]

Let's figure out what Bergevin would do and then do the opposite...

Wait remember the season re-signing Paul Byron was our TDL move.

No Rapala... your doctor said no more talks about Bergevin ?

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

The two of them don't go together. I'd be inclined to give him 2 years/$8M. This way the Habs kinda thank him for his already done work and a small bit of what should be left of his prime years. 5 years is way too much for Evans with the Habs. I can see a team giving him something like 5years/$17.5M ($3.5M per year), I think that would suck for the Habs because they would trade him at some point in the future with less value if they trade him with term passed his prime (in year 3 of a 5 year deal, he will be 31, year 3 because I would have signed him for 2).

Good Luck to you Evans

Edit: bad math, had 27.5 instead of 17.5

 

[Habsrule]

Sign him up.

Four years ago the Habs lost Danault and it took until this year to replace him with Evans.

Four years before that the Habs lost Eller and it took a few years until Danault took over that role.

Yes Evans will be overpaid at the contract but it is a contract that will be worth it. You know he will be a great penalty killer. You know he always hustles. You know he would be a good role model for younger players.

If Beck is Evans eventually replacement then it may take him a few years to reach that level. Sounds like the Habs want to make the playoffs as soon as next year.

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

something like 5years/$27.5M ($3.5M per year)

Something not adding up, here.

27.5/5 is 5.5

Is the 27.5 or 3.5 wrong?

 

[SlafySZN]

Sign him up.

Four years ago the Habs lost Danault and it took until this year to replace him with Evans.

Four years before that the Habs lost Eller and it took a few years until Danault took over that role.

Yes Evans will be overpaid at the contract but it is a contract that will be worth it. You know he will be a great penalty killer. You know he always hustles. You know he would be a good role model for younger players.

If Beck is Evans eventually replacement then it may take him a few years to reach that level. Sounds like the Habs want to make the playoffs as soon as next year.

‘’Sounds’’ like the habs want to make the playoffs as soon as next year.

What makes you think that? No moves they made shows that.

 

[Hoochi Papa]

Sign him up.

Four years ago the Habs lost Danault and it took until this year to replace him with Evans.

Four years before that the Habs lost Eller and it took a few years until Danault took over that role.

Yes Evans will be overpaid at the contract but it is a contract that will be worth it. You know he will be a great penalty killer. You know he always hustles. You know he would be a good role model for younger players.

If Beck is Evans eventually replacement then it may take him a few years to reach that level. Sounds like the Habs want to make the playoffs as soon as next year.

Evans does not replace Danault.

Evans has to hustle. He's a 4th line center. If you don't give everything when centering the lowest line in team, you're on waivers or even worse, KHL or AHL.

People talk about him like he is Canadiens' Saquon Barkley, someone who excels in specific position and is an irreplaceable cog in team's success. He's Allen Lazard, 3rd receiver who can block. A good player to have when in prime but not someone you build around. You let them follow Aaron to the Jets when free agency opens.

And still not denying that he's a good 4th liner. But he's not a hard to acquire specialist.

 

[viceroy]

He's not that different from Lars Eller who got bigger deals than that relative to the cap and had no issues getting value.

Why is everyone downplaying Lars to glaze Jake? Eller was able to up his game and be the top Centre for the Caps during a short burst during their Cup run. Thinking Evans could do the same for Suzuki is madness.

I could live with 4x5. We'd have a shutdown PK specialist locked up for the rest of Suzuki's prime and you can plug him into the 2C spot short term as a shut down center if need be.

Evans at 3 is a stretch and you wanna pencil him in as a 2nd line Centre?

For some reason fans don’t understand how hard these guys are to find and seem to assume every contending team has this function solved. They don’t, these guys are fairly difficult to acquire because teams don’t trade them.

Those contending teams also don't normally sign those guys for 5x4 either.

He would be CAR second best center.

Yes and we can all see now that the Canes are clearly not a contender.

this dumb narrative needs to stop, value the player for how he plays

Actually if you sign the guy for 5 fricking years you also have to evaluate how he'll be playing at the tail end of his contract.

Suzuki
Dach
Beck
Kapanen

That would be a disaster

Well we've just recently seen that Evans without Heineman wasn't too hot either. I honestly think a Heineman - Beck - Armia line could be solid. Yeah, Armia at 2yrs at 2.5.

3.5 for 6

F it. 3.25 for 8yrs while we're at it. Jiminy Crickett people, remember the old Habs adage: "Love your players but don't fall in love with them."

I dont understand how NHL teams are being so cheap with the guys that work the hardest? Specially when they know the cap is going to go up?

Yeah. Hardest workers should make the most! That's not how it works in real life buddy. Or else guys like Steve Begin, Paul Byron and David Savard would've been making 10 million per. Talent matters.

He makes 1.7M now and he's worth at least double that easily, in today’s money.

So what? we have to make up for what he missed out on earlier? That's the kind of thinking that got us the Gallagher contract.

Because people didn't learn their lesson with Armia the first time

I'm down with re-signing him on the cheap. Like I said earlier 2yrs at 2.5 would be fine. Placeholder until Florian and Davidson are ready. Not really sold on Tuch.

...why not really try Roy for ten games alongside Caufield and Suzuki? Or, alongside Heinemann and Beck on a kid line, with Laine playing on the Suzuki line?

To be honest I've kinda given up on Roy just like Harvey-Pinard. Joshua because of laziness and lack of drive whereas Raphael just because of injuries.

 

[417]

So what? we have to make up for what he missed out on earlier? That's the kind of thinking that got us the Gallagher contract.

Completely irrelevant to what I was posting.

I wasn't saying they have to sign him, I was just saying it's incorrect to suggest that asking for 4M/yr is not fair for him.

Whether or not the Habs want or should give that to him, is another question...but that's market price for the kind of player he is.

 

[Treb]

Why is everyone downplaying Lars to glaze Jake? Eller was able to up his game and be the top Centre for the Caps during a short burst during their Cup run. Thinking Evans could do the same for Suzuki is madness.



Evans at 3 is a stretch and you wanna pencil him in as a 2nd line Centre?



Those contending teams also don't normally sign those guys for 5x4 either.



Yes and we can all see now that the Canes are clearly not a contender.



Actually if you sign the guy for 5 fricking years you also have to evaluate how he'll be playing at the tail end of his contract.



Well we've just recently seen that Evans without Heineman wasn't too hot either. I honestly think a Heineman - Beck - Armia line could be solid. Yeah, Armia at 2yrs at 2.5.



F it. 3.25 for 8yrs while we're at it. Jiminy Crickett people, remember the old Habs adage: "Love your players but don't fall in love with them."



Yeah. Hardest workers should make the most! That's not how it works in real life buddy. Or else guys like Steve Begin, Paul Byron and David Savard would've been making 10 million per. Talent matters.



So what? we have to make up for what he missed out on earlier? That's the kind of thinking that got us the Gallagher contract.



I'm down with re-signing him on the cheap. Like I said earlier 2yrs at 2.5 would be fine. Placeholder until Florian and Davidson are ready. Not really sold on Tuch.



To be honest I've kinda given up on Roy just like Harvey-Pinard. Joshua because of laziness and lack of drive whereas Raphael just because of injuries.

Where am I downplaying Lars Eller?

I think the issue is you valuing Evans lower than I do.

Apart from Eller's lockout season, their career haven't been that dissimilar so far. Remains to be seen if Evans can take the next step Eller did.

 

[BaseballCoach]

F it. 3.25 for 8yrs while we're at it. Jiminy Crickett people, remember the old Habs adage: "Love your players but don't fall in love with them."

Byron paced 20 goals three straight seasons to get that contract. He notched 22, 20 then 15 in a 56 game season.

Evans has nowhere near that track record. But the cap has gone up, so 4 x 3.5 is ok for me. But not more.

 

[CrAzYNiNe]

Something not adding up, here.

27.5/5 is 5.5

Is the 27.5 or 3.5 wrong?

Typo, definitely 17.5M over 5 years. Thanks

 

[417]

This organization doesn't have the depth at C to let Evans walk.

Even more now with the Dach news and Dvoram leaving.