Player Discussion Evander Kane

[bobbythebrain]

Okay bobby.

Please explain how Bettman sent an invisible laser beam down from the rafters that knocked Bouchards puck off course and made it hit the post? Cuz last time I checked, the Oilers were arguably that goal away from winning the series.

The Bettman/Canadian conspiracy is just stupid

 

[Stoneman89]

Like how? Last time I checked the Oilers and the Habs just went to the finals, and they sure didn't lose cuz of some grand conspiracy. In the last 20 years Canadian teams went to the finals 6 times

32 teams, 7 Canadian. The math adds up, just like it did when there were less teams and Canadian teams were in the finals more

Pro-rating goal totals for James Neal comes to mind. Screwing us with only a one game suspension to Alex Pietrangelo after deliberately attempting to injure another player well after the play was over is another.

 

[Soundwave]

Pro-rating goal totals for James Neal comes to mind. Screwing us with only a one game suspension to Alex Pietrangelo after deliberately attempting to injure another player well after the play was over is another.

We've gotten some bad breaks, but Nurse was a dumb ass to do what he did.

Still, 5 Canadian teams have been in a game 7 of a Cup Final since 1993, a Canadian team has not even had 1 lead in any of those games.

That's just bad luck. Need a bounce sometimes.

 

[North]

Please explain how Bettman sent an invisible laser beam down from the rafters that knocked Bouchards puck off course and made it hit the post? Cuz last time I checked, the Oilers were arguably that goal away from winning the series.

The Bettman/Canadian conspiracy is just stupid

Okay bobby.

 

[Mr Positive]

You could do whatever you want it’s just easier to make $$$ work at the deadline. If we could find the right deal earlier though I’m all for it.

Sure if the right deal is there we go for it but it just looks obvious that we aren't going that route. We are going to accrue space and that lets us use that space plus the LTIR that we can spring later

Plus who is selling early in the season? It's just unlikely. Plus we seem to even have the idea to give Emberson a real shot. Maybe if he pans out decently he becomes the tradable asset at the deadline

 

[Stoneman89]

We've gotten some bad breaks, but Nurse was a dumb ass to do what he did.

Still, 5 Canadian teams have been in a game 7 of a Cup Final since 1993, a Canadian team has not even had 1 lead in any of those games.

That's just bad luck. Need a bounce sometimes.

Much as we all hate the Flamers, I think they got screwed in 2005 with that skate in the crease in game 6.

 

[brentashton]

Much as we all hate the Flamers, I think they got screwed in 2005 with that skate in the crease in game 6.

Did we have to give them a 3rd rounder for that too? I can’t recall.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Like how? Last time I checked the Oilers and the Habs just went to the finals, and they sure didn't lose cuz of some grand conspiracy. In the last 20 years Canadian teams went to the finals 6 times

32 teams, 7 Canadian. The math adds up, just like it did when there were less teams and Canadian teams were in the finals more

How do you explain the number of Stanley Cups won by Canadian teams during the decades before Bettman's regime?

Losing in the Cup final is losing the Cup. It's not winning the Cup.

All the Stanley Cup championships handed out during Bettman's regime go to teams located in American television markets. Bettman has never found a way to get a fantastic television contract in the States.

If the majority of American teams aren't successful fans of these teams won't go to the games. The NHL is a gate driven market.

Gary's American expansion teams are propped up with revenue sharing. Bettman brought revenue sharing to the NHL. The league in its current is form kept afloat with revenue sharing comparable to a pyramid scheme.

Even if the demographics don't care about professional hockey in those markets. American teams are perpetually loaded with talent so they dominate the regular season and into playoffs, to grow the game. Canadian teams and their gate revenues increase the profit margin but lose to American teams which need to win or nobody will show up to watch the games.

Now we have sports betting fouling the game at every turn. You can't watch the game without watching online betting advertisement. Advertisement tainting the jerseys of the Edmonton Oilers as they stand front and center in the league. What a f***ing innovator, way to go Bettman.

 

[Soundwave]

How do you explain the number of Stanley Cups won by Canadian teams during the decades before Bettman's regime?

Losing in the Cup final is losing the Cup. It's not winning the Cup.

All the Stanley Cup championships handed out during Bettman's regime go to teams located in American television markets. Bettman has never found a way to get a fantastic television contract in the States.

If the majority of American teams aren't successful fans of these teams won't go to the games. The NHL is a gate driven market.

Gary's American expansion teams are propped up with revenue sharing. Bettman brought revenue sharing to the NHL. The league in its current is form kept afloat with revenue sharing comparable to a pyramid scheme.

Even if the demographics don't care about professional hockey in those markets. American teams are perpetually loaded with talent so they dominate the regular season and into playoffs, to grow the game. Canadian teams and their gate revenues increase the profit margin but lose to American teams which need to win or nobody will show up to watch the games.

Now we have sports betting fouling the game at every turn. You can't watch the game without watching online betting advertisement. Advertisement tainting the jerseys of the Edmonton Oilers as they stand front and center in the league. What a f***ing innovator, way to go Bettman.

None of that shit matters. Quit hiring moron GMs that have 7 million in dead cap because of Campbell and Nurse overpayments and you'd have won the Cup. Bettman didn't put a gun to Holland's head and force him to make those deals.

 

[Broberg Speed]

None of that shit matters. Quit hiring moron GMs that have 7 million in dead cap because of Campbell and Nurse overpayments and you'd have won the Cup. Bettman didn't put a gun to Holland's head and force him to make those deals.

It's not just the f***ing Edmonton Oilers and every management team, scouting staff and pro-scouting staff they hire that suck balls it's the management teams, amature scouting staffs and pro-scouting staffs of EVERY f***ING CANADIAN TEAM since Gary Bettman became the commissioner of the NHL that suck balls. What are the f***ing odds of that happening?

 

[Soundwave]

It's not just the f***ing Edmonton Oilers and every management team, scouting staff and pro-scouting staff they hire that suck balls it's the management teams, amature scouting staffs and pro-scouting staffs of EVERY f***ING CANADIAN TEAM since Gary Bettman became the commissioner of the NHL that suck balls. What are the f***ing odds of that happening?

What are the odds of two Alberta teams winning 6/10 Cups in the 80s as expansion teams basically?

Shit happens, unless you can show me where Bettman put a gun to Chiarelli's head and forced him to sign Lucic, or to Holland's head and forced him to signed Campbell and then overpay Nurse 2 million on the basis of a COVID season, all that stuff rings hollow.

The commissioner of the league has no bearing on who wins/loses, if he didn't care for the Oilers he would've simply stopped the McDavid lottery ball from bouncing that way or rigged it any number of ways and sent it on its merry way to Phoenix instead.

 

[bobbythebrain]

Okay bobby.

Whining is easier than applying logic.....ok North. Keep doin you

 

[bobbythebrain]

The amount of romanticism surrounding Edm in this cup run was astonishing. You have pods like Spittin Chiclets spewing praises for Edm and the electricity in this run.


Then you have absolutely clueless "fans" suggesting that Bettman and the NHL conspire to keep this from happening.

Take your head outta the sand for 2 seconds, there's clean air lf you look

 

[Broberg Speed]

What are the odds of two Alberta teams winning 6/10 Cups in the 80s as expansion teams basically?

Shit happens, unless you can show me where Bettman put a gun to Chiarelli's head and forced him to sign Lucic, or to Holland's head and forced him to signed Campbell and then overpay Nurse 2 million on the basis of a COVID season, all that stuff rings hollow.

The commissioner of the league has no bearing on who wins/loses, if he didn't care for the Oilers he would've simply stopped the McDavid lottery ball from bouncing that way or rigged it any number of ways and sent it on its merry way to Phoenix instead.

This is how you explain Canadian Cup success before Bettman?

The amount of romanticism surrounding Edm in this cup run was astonishing. You have pods like Spittin Chiclets spewing praises for Edm and the electricity in this run.


Then you have absolutely clueless "fans" suggesting that Bettman and the NHL conspire to keep this from happening.

Take your head outta the sand for 2 seconds, there's clean air lf you look

Did you see that crew fellating Bettman during the finals. Bettman loved it... giggling like the Pillsbury Doughboy.

 

[Soundwave]

The amount of romanticism surrounding Edm in this cup run was astonishing. You have pods like Spittin Chiclets spewing praises for Edm and the electricity in this run.


Then you have absolutely clueless "fans" suggesting that Bettman and the NHL conspire to keep this from happening.

Take your head outta the sand for 2 seconds, there's clean air lf you look

If there was a conspiracy, 0% chance the Oilers would have even sniffed the McLottery win. It would have been rigged to prevent that outcome for sure.

 

[Broberg Speed]

If there was a conspiracy, 0% chance the Oilers would have even sniffed the McLottery win. It would have been rigged to prevent that outcome for sure.

The Oilers haven't won a cup with McDavid. To the overwhelmingly fantastic entertainment of NHL fans. There always has to be plausible deniability for this syndicate to hold water.

I'm real tired of listening to you carry Bettman's water.

 

[Soundwave]

The Oilers haven't won a cup with McDavid. To the overwhelmingly fantastic entertainment of NHL fans. There always has to be plausible deniability for this syndicate to hold water.

I'm real tired of listening to you carrying Bettman's water.

Go look at Bob Nicholson, Peter Chiarelli, and Ken Holland as to why.

If Gary Bettman didn't want to the Oilers to have a shot, 0% chance he'd have let them fluke their way into winning the McDavid lottery.

 

[Broberg Speed]

Go look at Bob Nicholson, Peter Chiarelli, and Ken Holland as to why.

If Gary Bettman didn't want to the Oilers to have a shot, 0% chance he'd have let them fluke their way into winning the McDavid lottery.

...and the management teams, scouting staffs and pro-scouting staffs of every other Canadian team for the past three decades, all coinciding with Bettman's hiring as the NHL commissioner. The exact year he was hired moving forward for three f***ing decades. All incompetent boobs, every last one of them. Incredibly bad fortune.

McDavid is turning 28 in January. How many cups does he have in Edmonton?

 

[Soundwave]

...and the management teams, scouting staffs and pro-scouting staffs of every other Canadian team for the past three decades, all coinciding with Bettman's hiring as the NHL commissioner. The exact year he was hired moving forward for three f***ing decades. All incompetent boobs, every last one of them. Incredibly bad fortune.

McDavid is turning 28 in January. How many cups does he have in Edmonton?

That's not Bettman's fault, what more is he supposed to do? Give the Oilers the Matthews no.1 overall pick the following year too? 5 1st overall picks might do it? We got gift wrapped Tkachuk that draft too, lol.

And yes, Canadian management by and large has sucked the past three decades. Vancouver's management team that built their 2011 team is probably the last one that was really on the ball.

 

[bobbythebrain]

If there was a conspiracy, 0% chance the Oilers would have even sniffed the McLottery win. It would have been rigged to prevent that outcome for sure.

Stop applying logic!! It's much easier to whine without effort!!

Bettman STOPS Canadian teams from winning but ALLOWS McD/Drai/Petterson/Matthews to go to Canadian teams only to impede their legacy lmao.

How stupid do you have to be to believe that he has no influence over the draft yet controls the playoff outcomes????

What nonsense.

Whatever you say @North

If Bettman was controlling the outcome...McD would be a Sabre and Matthews would be in Arz. Like give your head a shake before you post nonsense

 

[bobbythebrain]

Lmao. Bettman costs himself infinite revenue by allowing McD to goto Edm. Then he spends years sabotaging them till he hopes McD goes to an American market!!!!

Are ppl truly that daft?? @North ? Care to elaborate on how this works exactly?

So for 20 years Bettman has been able to manipulate Playoffs/SCF but has been unable to manipulate drafts? Like use a spec of common sense.....puleasssee

 

[AlanHUK]

There's an obvious directive from the league to keep games artificially close, but that's about as far as it goes.

The Oilers suffer from this because they're a high skill team, as the idea is to keep things 'fair' by keeping 2 teams as close as possible. An obvious example is when the Oilers PP is rolling they get less opportunities because it's seen as having a bigger impact on the game.

The league are so focussed on parity that they manage games instead of refereeing them, they want a casual person to look at it and think every game could be close and exciting, not realising a lot of casual sports fans enjoy blow outs through highlights now more than they do watching a full game that's 'close'

 

[bobbythebrain]

There's an obvious directive from the league to keep games artificially close, but that's about as far as it goes.

The Oilers suffer from this because they're a high skill team, as the idea is to keep things 'fair' by keeping 2 teams as close as possible. An obvious example is when the Oilers PP is rolling they get less opportunities because it's seen as having a bigger impact on the game.

The league are so focussed on parity that they manage games instead of refereeing them, they want a casual person to look at it and think every game could be close and exciting, not realising a lot of casual sports fans enjoy blow outs through highlights now more than they do watching a full game that's 'close'

Lmao
No. Just no. That's nonsense. Just look.when Vegas lost to TB on that 5min pp. The narrative was that Bettman was manipulating his dream team Vegas to win....then it flipped to quickly to he manipulated it to Cali teams
Or when Oilers fans cried about pp and ended getting more this year in key games.

For every point you try to make there is a contradiction.

It's why Bruins fans cry about reffing 2 years ago while everyone else says FU. 2 eyes and a functioning brain show that FlA was better

This conspiracy junk is just that

Boxing was rigged. Soccer was rigged. Hockey....ur on cloud 9

 

[AlanHUK]

Lmao
No. Just no. That's nonsense.

You know what I guess you're right, It's not like a ref openly stated the league wanted game management in that way, then 6 years later got caught on a hot mic doing it a month before he was due to retire.....

 

[Soundwave]

Much as we all hate the Flamers, I think they got screwed in 2005 with that skate in the crease in game 6.

I actually don't think that was in, the parrallax effect makes it look like it was over the line from one angle, but that's an optical illusion.

When you watch the over head angle, Khabibulin kicks it out.



It would have to be 100% for them to call that a goal in that situation, even today I think it would be called no goal.