Speculation: Evan Bouchard asking $11M AAV on his next deal

[Fatass]

And shows up in the playoffs...1.32 PPG the past 2 playoffs


ah yes, I remember when Klefbom and Barrie were putting up 80 points a season because of McDrai

Yup. Bouchard’s agent will look at recent comparables. If he’s asking for only 11 per then that’s less than Dahlin. IMO that’s one comparable they will certainly bring up.

 

[NotAVacuumSalesman]

I thought every team is lining up to offer sheet him at $13M AAV..

It’s not my suggestion, I’m just the messenger.

 

[TheDawnOfANewTage]

He was a pure offense dman when he was younger but has evolved his game a ton and he has become elite now. He has eclipsed his mentor Ekholm.

I bet he signs for 10 aav x 8

Ya, that’s the thing with a lot of these ridiculous asks- if the rumors are even accurate, on bigger deals I’d assume there’s a $1 mil or so overcharge that they’re willing to work down from. 11 mil sounds nuts, 10 mil.. idk

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Love it

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Yup. Bouchard’s agent will look at recent comparables. If he’s asking for only 11 per then that’s less than Dahlin. IMO that’s one comparable they will certainly bring up.

ya Dahlin is a great player but Bouchard outscored him at every strength, was on the ice for less GA and is a proven ELITE playoff performer, unlike Dahlin
he's getting that kind of money

 

[Dog]

11 million take about 3 million off and be closer. Don't think he's worth 9 million but if you double his salary it's close to 8 million. I think 7-8.5 million range probably be more closer.

 

[thecupismine]

If he performs like he did last year he’s worth it, especially if it’s a long term deal. People anchor expectations in contracts that were signed years ago in a different cap environment, which isn’t realistic.

Hughes last contract, in a flat cap environment when he had yet to establish himself as an elite number 1, was 9.6% of the cap as an RFA. This ask is 12.5% of the current cap (likely 12.2% of cap when deal goes live next year with a 2 million cap increase), is buying out UFA years after being on a sweetheart deal as an RFA, and will likely have established himself as a top 10-15 dman in the league upon signing.

If he signs for less than that it’s great for the Oilers. People have PTSD from the Leafs locking up a ton of cap in their top guys, but the issue there is more with the players/culture than the strategy.

 

[KirkAlbuquerque]

Do it.

 

[Face Of Bear]

welcome to Toronto, Connor.

 

[BlueDream]

Ah yes, yet another player that was going to take a “discount” per Oilers fans.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Just ditch him and back up the Brinks truck over to Shesterkin's house in the summer.

 

[Three On Zero]

Yup. Bouchard’s agent will look at recent comparables. If he’s asking for only 11 per then that’s less than Dahlin. IMO that’s one comparable they will certainly bring up.

I don’t like Dahlin, but Dahlin is a much better player than Bouchard.

 

[Soundwave]

I don’t like Dahlin, but Dahlin is a much better player than Bouchard.

Dahlin is probably a better all around player than Hughes, he's just stuck on a shit team. Dahlin on the Oilers would win the Norris trophy.

Just ditch him and back up the Brinks truck over to Shesterkin's house in the summer.

I'd consider it. I like Bouchard, but Shesterkin + McDavid + Draisaitl? Yeah, pretty sure you can then move Skinner for your standard PPQB type.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

better win this year Oilers

 

[BKarchitect]

The handwringing and celebrations of an Oilers implosion seem a bit premature. We should probably wait and see what he actually gets before launching the hot take missles. We all know he's going to get paid.

I'd wager if Bouchard was on anybody's team, there would be both an acceptance he's going to get a lot of money and an equal measure of excitement that he is going to get signed long-term.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I don’t like Dahlin, but Dahlin is a much better player than Bouchard.

Why?

 

[Three On Zero]

Dahlin is probably a better all around player than Hughes, he's just stuck on a shit team. Dahlin on the Oilers would win the Norris trophy.

Dahlin’s not THAT good

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Has a team ever won a cup with 3 players making 10 mill a year?

Not that I know of, the closest would be the prime Pens with Crosby and Malkin making 10M but Letang under 10.

 

[Soundwave]

Dahlin’s not THAT good

I think he'd score 90-100 points on a team like the Oilers. Maybe 30 goals even.

 

[sensfan4lifee]

ya Dahlin is a great player but Bouchard outscored him at every strength, was on the ice for less GA and is a proven ELITE playoff performer, unlike Dahlin
he's getting that kind of money

He is not better than Dahlin my god.

And Dahlins never even been in the playoffs so you can't say he wouldn't be

and im sorry but its easy to put up points when your playing with 2 of the best players in the world

 

[Soundwave]

I would bridge him, McDavid and Draisaitl are the two you want locked in at 8 years, it doesn't mean everyone else needs to be signed forever too.

Bouchard is young too, in 2 years he will still only be 26 years old, good enough to then sign a real 8 year deal.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

He is not better than Dahlin my god.

And Dahlins never even been in the playoffs so you can't say he wouldn't be

and im sorry but its easy to put up points when your playing with 2 of the best players in the world

I didn't say he was better than Dahlin, I said he's the comparable

btw, if it's so easy to put up big points with McDavid and Draisaitl, why hasn't every d-man put up similar numbers?

 

[MasterofGrond]

That’s fine, he probably works out as worth it.

But you gotta get rid of Nurse at essentially any price to facilitate that.

 

[PuckG]

That outplayed Hughes in the playoffs. lol. And every other Canuck in that Vancouver series.

Don’t provoke the whole “InJuRIes” excuses that’ll come up.

He is not better than Dahlin my god.

And Dahlins never even been in the playoffs so you can't say he wouldn't be

and im sorry but its easy to put up points when your playing with 2 of the best players in the world

If it was that easy to put up points, why didn’t anyone of our defencemen before Bouchard produce the same or more? Both of McDrai have been on the Oilers for almost a decade.

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

I would bridge him, McDavid and Draisaitl are the two you want locked in at 8 years, it doesn't mean everyone else needs to be signed forever too.

Bouchard is young too, in 2 years he will still only be 26 years old, good enough to then sign a real 8 year deal.

no way you bridge him...we bridged Nurse into a 9.5 mil contract instead of paying him like 6.5 a couple years earlier on an 8 year contract