Traded Erik Brännström - D - Part III

[Wondercarrot]

I think you meant to post this in the Joseph thread

I did indeed lol

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I think you meant to post this in the Joseph thread

Same goes for Brannstrom lol

 

[LiseL]

Why do you want to overpay for a player that was a bottom pairing d man. The market has told you Brannstrom is basically on a try out contract. Thats a very poor allocation of cap space.

JBD is a natural righty and makes less than Brannstrom he is a better actual defender. I am hoping his game grows under a real NHL coaching staff. I see no real difference for this team in the grand scheme of things.

Gregor is a defensive forward and PK specialist he is nothing like Gaudette. Strange scouting report. He is a lateral move with Kelly but again makes less money and adds more speed which Ottawa did lose in Joseph.

I think you'd have to be pretty naive to not see the types of players management moved out. I did not like the Joseph deal but he was very inconsistent and was scratched for a reason. They want a culture shift in the dressing room. The three most inconsistent players were shown the door.

Perron brings over 1100 regular season games. Over 100 playoff games two finals a cup and has consistently produced and is a consistent player day to day. He provides leadership, it was obvious with how inconsistent this team is from game to game this is what they are trying to stabilize. He plays a heavier game than Joseph too, he's an upgrade not only on the ice but in the room and in the community.

Why do you want these fringe players to stay with the team when all they have done is lose? I dont get it. Stockholm syndrome.

Hamonic's NMC is the only reason he is still here. I think they will bury him one way ore another if he shows he cant play. I dont think they believe in buying players out and I like it frankly. Try and get creative. Its also Andlauers money, easy to say just buy him out from the nose bleeds.

As for Hamonic, I think they want him for his leadership/mentorship abilities as he's a vet. I remember reading somewhere Sanderson really appreciated his guidance. He can help JBD and Kleven develop. I think they'll only use him if they're are injuries. If he only plays once in awhile, maybe his play will be passable, esp if he's on the 3rd pairing. I also wouldn't be surprised if they acquire another D for depth as Chabot / Zub seem to get injured every year and Jensen is going to be 34 to start the season. If that's the case, then Hamonic would be the 8th D.

 

[Xspyrit]

I dont think you have been watching these players at all. Especially the last part. Kubalik is vanilla as it gets Perron does not play that way. He is great at holding onto puck down low. Something this team is terrible at.

Again a really weird scouting report on Gregor they are nothing alike.

Confused to which dots your brain connected to be concluding this... Where did I compare Perron and Kubalik? I only talked about the PP element. I have known Perron since his draft year in 2007, he's from Quebec and was a 1st round pick... He is a much better player than Kubalik but he's also much older. Hopefully his age doesn't show this season

What have you noticed about Gregor outside that he is a very good skater? Again, not sure why you say "they are nothing alike", the ONLY thing I compared was that they were drafted as long-shots offensive forwards and that they aren't the strongest guys out there. Are you arguing that Gregor is a tough/strong guy?

Need better reading comprehension...

Why do you want to overpay for a player that was a bottom pairing d man. The market has told you Brannstrom is basically on a try out contract. Thats a very poor allocation of cap space.

Because I'd much much rather pay Brannstrom 2.0 than Hamonic 1.1

Brannstrom is going to be a great bargain for the AVs, as usual contenders sign great support/role players for cheap because they want to play on these teams.

JBD is a natural righty and makes less than Brannstrom he is a better actual defender. I am hoping his game grows under a real NHL coaching staff. I see no real difference for this team in the grand scheme of things.

A better defender by allowing more shots attempts, more shots, more scoring chances, more quality scoring chances while getting hemmed in his own zone more? Is Erik Gudbranson a better defender than Sanderson because his crosschecks by 60 are high?

The thing is I might have a different vision of defensive play than the traditional archaic views. One of the most important elements for me is transition

Gregor is a defensive forward and PK specialist he is nothing like Gaudette. Strange scouting report. He is a lateral move with Kelly but again makes less money and adds more speed which Ottawa did lose in Joseph

And you're telling me I haven't watched these players? Do you know how many seasons Gregor has been PKing? lol 1 season with the Leafs and he is a PK specialist?

Kelly is more physical and better defensively. It doesn't mean that Gregor can't continue to improve.

As for Gaudette, nevermind if you think I was comparing them stylistically. Already tried to explain.

.I think you'd have to be pretty naive to not see the types of players management moved out. I did not like the Joseph deal but he was very inconsistent and was scratched for a reason. They want a culture shift in the dressing room. The three most inconsistent players were shown the door.

The three most inconsistent players were shown the door? Joseph, Brannstrom and Kastelic? Weren't they actually the opposite? You thought Brannstrom and Joseph took many games off? And Kastelic when he was back from injury?

Ok we really don't share the same views on this.

Perron brings over 1100 regular season games. Over 100 playoff games two finals a cup and has consistently produced and is a consistent player day to day. He provides leadership, it was obvious with how inconsistent this team is from game to game this is what they are trying to stabilize. He plays a heavier game than Joseph too, he's an upgrade not only on the ice but in the room and in the community.

All good, Stepan, Burrows and Legwand had a pretty good resumes too. What were views on them AFTER they played in Ottawa?

It doesn't mean Perron can't be good for us, this I don't know as I don't know the future. If he can provide leadership then ok, but we need ON-ice play too.

 

[Xspyrit]

Brannstrom on his off-side would be a horrible partner for Kleven, Kleven would have to babysit him because Brannstrom would get bullied in the corners every single shift. They need a RHD who can hold their own physically and can make the simple plays. Hamonic fits that description more than Brannstrom does. Hamonic isn't ideal though, and they have the cap room and time to find a better option.

Probably what you would have said for Chabot-Brannstrom but they boasted a 61.5 xGF% in 231 minutes, 2nd highest on the Sens last season (highest was Sanderson-Chychrun at 64.1 xGF% in 141 minutes)

61.5 xGF% was also the 3rd best in the NHL for pairing above 200 minutes together (1st was Lindell-Tanev and 2nd was Ekholm-Bouchard)

One day everybody will catch up that being good defensively is NOT chasing the play and throwing hits, it's recovering the puck and transition it quickly to counter before your forwards are out of gas and need to change.

I'd much rather have the puck and get scoring chances than being tough and physical.

 

[Micklebot]

All good, Stepan, Burrows and Legwand had a pretty good resumes too. What were views on them AFTER they played in Ottawa?

It doesn't mean Perron can't be good for us, this I don't know as I don't know the future. If he can provide leadership then ok, but we need ON-ice play too.

Stepan had declined into a 30 pts player before we traded for him
Burrows was a 20-30 pts player when we acquired him

Legwand is the only one that had a remotely comparable season heading into Ottawa acquiring him. It's certainly possible Perron fails to live up to expectations, but Stepan and Burrows in particular are really poor comparables since both had fallen off before coming here.

 

[Xspyrit]

Stepan had declined into a 30 pts player before we traded for him
Burrows was a 20-30 pts player when we acquired him

Legwand is the only one that had a remotely comparable season heading into Ottawa acquiring him. It's certainly possible Perron fails to live up to expectations, but Stepan and Burrows in particular are really poor comparables since both had fallen off before coming here.

ok but look at PP points... these players didn't score many of their pts on the PP like Perron did.

If you tell me we really needed Perron for the PP, then ok

Maybe I'm wrong but I have noticed a steep decline in Perron's game the last 2 seasons.

 

[HSF]

With Chychrun, Branmnstrom, Chabot & Sanderson we had too much of the same thing, none of them are hitters, none of them are very tough & none of them are able to clear the front of the net, too much of the same thing. They needed to get bigger on D, they needed to get tougher on D & they needed to add guys who hit & can clear the front of the net & are harder to play aginst & don't allow players to skate into our end unscathed.

Obviously Chabot & Sanderson are better than Brannstrom, I don't thing anyone can argue that & Chychrun just didn't fill the role we expected from him. Most agreed that the Defence was a problem & changes had to be made & Chychrun & Brannstrom were the casualties of those changes. IMO Jensen & Kleven improve the defence in the direction of being harder to play against, I don't know if it's the final pairings, I doubt it & a couple more changes should be forthcoming at some future point on defence.

I can get on board with Kleven and Jensen.

Can't get on board with JBD and Hamonic over Branny. Lets see what else the sens do but that last RD spot is an obvious weakness...still

ok but look at PP points... these players didn't score many of their pts on the PP like Perron did.

If you tell me we really needed Perron for the PP, then ok

Maybe I'm wrong but I have noticed a steep decline in Perron's game the last 2 seasons.

Worried about this too. Perron got 17 points on the PP I believe which he won't get here. He lost a step last year....along with Giroux

Its risky for sure and I think people like the idea of Perron from 5 years ago. Lets see what happens but I am not sure the sens improved with Perron in and Joseph out on the ice. Maybe in the locker room but 4mill is a lot for that

 

[HSF]

This is a hilariously bad post.

Resorting to reading comprehension because the point you made was terrible.

Suggesting that JBD to Branntsrom is similar to Gudbranson to Sanderson.

Then comparing Perron to plugs that were actually past their prime like Legwand And Stepan. He scored at over a 50 point pace.

Hamonic has a NMC which was given by Dorion. What does that have to do with paying Branntsrom more than double what any other team in the NHL was willing to pay him. He got 900 K man. His qualifying offer was 2.2. Million.

Joseph, Chychrun and Korpisalo were the three most inconsistent players. Clealry Joseph had some off ice issues. No one in the entire league wanted him. They had to add a 3rd.

If you don't want to look at it remotely objectively fine. But try and bring some legitimate arguments to the discussion next time.

Did you not watch the games at all? Feels like it based on this post.

Major revisionist history here. Stuztle was consistent? Chabot? Forsberg? Batherson?

You actually can not qualify a player then sign them for less. Teams have done it. If Branny didn't want to be here that says more about the organization than him imo

Teams didnt want JBD for free last year when he was on waivers. Branny is much better. Maybe JBD has off ice issues aswell cause the team has not been able to move him so far...or it could be that teams are capped out

No RHD wanted to sign in Ottawa instead we had to trade a good asset in Chychrun for Jensen

 

[Erik Alfredsson]

Probably what you would have said for Chabot-Brannstrom but they boasted a 61.5 xGF% in 231 minutes, 2nd highest on the Sens last season (highest was Sanderson-Chychrun at 64.1 xGF% in 141 minutes)

61.5 xGF% was also the 3rd best in the NHL for pairing above 200 minutes together (1st was Lindell-Tanev and 2nd was Ekholm-Bouchard)

One day everybody will catch up that being good defensively is NOT chasing the play and throwing hits, it's recovering the puck and transition it quickly to counter before your forwards are out of gas and need to change.

I'd much rather have the puck and get scoring chances than being tough and physical.

A lot of defensemen can do that that can also clear the net, block shots, win battles in the corner, and play well on the PK.

Also if Chychrun was a part of the best defense pairing then that kind of says a lot about that stat. Chychrun was consistently our worst dman defensively, so I wouldn't read too deeply into a stat that portrays him as a part of our best option defensively.

 

[KevinRedkey]

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[bert]

Major revisionist history here. Stuztle was consistent? Chabot? Forsberg? Batherson?

You actually can not qualify a player then sign them for less. Teams have done it. If Branny didn't want to be here that says more about the organization than him imo

Teams didnt want JBD for free last year when he was on waivers. Branny is much better. Maybe JBD has off ice issues aswell cause the team has not been able to move him so far...or it could be that teams are capped out

No RHD wanted to sign in Ottawa instead we had to trade a good asset in Chychrun for Jensen

You think that Korpisalo, Chychrun and Joseph were more consistent than those players..... Were talking effort and preparation too.

No shit about Brannstrom. What's your point?... The market clearly dictated he wasn't worth close to his qualifying offer. That's why they didn't do it. That's why anyone complaining about them not doing it is lost. No one wanted Brannstrom the couldn't even get a 7th round pick for him at the trade deadline. Says nothing about the organization. Playoff teams don't have 5'8 d men in their top 6. He is a #7 making 100 k over league minimum. It says Staios knows what he's doing and this organization is finally on the right track. The Brannstrom crying around here is hilarious. He got a 1 year deal at 900 k. He's worthless He's too small. Do you watch playoff hockey? Its on from April to June. Those teams don't have Branntsrom like players in the lineup. Especially the teams that play in June. Lundqvist was getting 3 minutes of ice time a game when Dallas was forced to dress him with Hakaanpaas injury. Finally they put in Petrovic and he was capable of playing a normal shift.

Lundqvist, Boqvist and Brannstrom were not qualified. All 3!!! how much more evidence do ya'll need to start to accept the reality undersized d men who can't burn are worthless. Time to face the reality of what's happening folks. Quit being in Denial. Hockey is a physical sport.

JBD was only on waivers at the start of the year when the sens were over the cap and Dorion blew the cap situation. He was never healthy scratched due to off ice issues like Joseph was. Secondly i dont care for him either but atleast he can actually defend at this level unlike superstar Erik Branntsrom.

If you understand the game well enough you can see JBD actually makes strong defensive reads in the neutral zone holding the blue line. Something Branntsrom never did. Only other d man that can do it is Sanderson.

Chychrun oh yeah what an asset another player No one wanted at the trade deadline last year for anything of significance. You got one thing right though, no UFA RHD did want to sign here. Atleast the sens finally have a GM that knows what this teams weaknesses are. So he got one for an asset that never fit and was going to walk for nothing in less than a year. Chychrun was never a fit, much like you guys Dorion was playing NHL 2023 building his team. Thankfully someone that played the sport and knows what an NHL dressing room needs and is supposed to look like is in charge. Dorion walked right over the logo in Bingo. Insane that someone ran a pro hockey team for that long let alone an NHL team without basic knowledge like that. How could he have possibly been qualified to build a pro team that can win when he doesn't know the basics of a pro dressing room.

Imagine all this whining and Complaining about a calculated GM trying to pull this organization out of the basement of missing the playoffs for 7 years because it was run like a 12 year old playing a video game on GM mode for half a decade.

 

[Micklebot]

You actually can not qualify a player then sign them for less

Sure you can. Last year, we qualified Pinto after his ELC expired at 874k to preserve his rights, contract talks broke off for a while when he got suspended, then we signed him to a deal for less than his QO at 775k.

 

[Tuna99]

I see the usual little sarcastic shots about some not getting over losing some marginal players but the jokesters might still not understand what the real problem is. It's not about letting Brannstrom go (during the offseason when support players have no value), it's about who stays OVER the player.

In the current scenario, we plan to incorporate a pure rookie with 17 NHL games and have Travis Hamonic and Jacob Bernard-Docker to round out the spots #5-7 on defense...

I know Dorion is the one who signed Hamonic and gave him a NMC but Hamonic instead of Brannstrom is an ultra terrible swap despite Hamonic being taller and tougher

While it was not the exact same situation, waiving 22 y/o Balcers during a rebuild to "protect" terrible hockey players like Galchenyuk, Paquette and Anisimov is just another sign that your management is terrible at pro scouting and has no idea what they are doing. Those who resisted for years finally had to understand how bad of a GM Dorion was.



I agree that the first problem was the contract that Dorion gave him. If it was somewhere around 1.2 and 1.5, Brannstrom could possibly still be here and there wouldn't have been an issue

Also agree about Kleven, we need to develop him anyway because we expect/want him to be part of the future. However I would MUCH rather have Kleven-Brannstrom than Kleven-JBD or Hamonic

Yes Gregor is a super fast skater but he is an offensive player like a Gaudette, if he is not putting points he is useless and can actually hurt you defensively. Kelly is not as fast or talented but plays hard, hits a lot and is quite better defensively, Would much rather have Kelly on the 4th line than Gregor.

And if this team needs speed, LOL at paying to trade Joseph while paying more to get another PP weapon like Perron. Really stupid

Relax bro, the season starts in 90 days there is a ton of time to trade for Cody Ceci

 

[Agent Zub]

JBD sucks compared to Brannstrom. Not significantly stronger, turns over the puck even more on the boards and with none of the puck moving ability and transition play of Brannstrom.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

JBD sucks compared to Brannstrom. Not significantly stronger, turns over the puck even more on the boards and with none of the puck moving ability and transition play of Brannstrom.

I think they're such nothing burger players they're like 2 peas in a pod. Cannon fodder. Pick your poison. JBD had the advantage that he was set to be paid appropriately in Ottawa and doesn't play the side their prized rookie coming in does.

 

[Agent Zub]

I think they're such nothing burger players they're like 2 peas in a pod. Cannon fodder. Pick your poison. JBD had the advantage that he was set to be paid appropriately in Ottawa and doesn't play the side their prized rookie coming in does.

Brannstrom is actually a great depth player. Contenders will probably keep picking him up for good cheap depth who they know can play and step up.

I mean we have seen Brannstrom play top 4 minutes for significant period of time. And did he suck at it ? No.

He was unbelievable for a guy making 1- 2 mill. How is that canon fodder? You literally wish that your bottom pair d can do that. And he did that CONSISTENTLY.

Brannstrom-Zub as a pairing was second only to Sanderson-Zub.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Little Branny was a fan fave... but it was time to move on from him... He would have very little future here.

I think he performed well enough but the bus is going in a different direction. His 2m Dorion contract hurt him in staying. I am not sure if they would have kept him either way .

I would have liked Parker Kelly to stay as well.. He was a good 4th liner .. but I think they wanted him under 1m and it didn't work out.

Joseph has his strong supporters as well..... Not being able to trade him for a 7th round pick and having to pay a pretty significant pick to move him is an eye opener and tells us they wanted him gone.

DJ was fired... players cried,... Everybody has to move on

What about Rourke... He played well here. Very responsible defensively. PKs. Did he get a 2 way offer?

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Brannstrom is actually a great depth player. Contenders will probably keep picking him up for good cheap depth who they know can play and step up.

I mean we have seen Brannstrom play top 4 minutes for significant period of time. And did he suck at it ? No.

He was unbelievable for a guy making 1- 2 mill. How is that canon fodder? You literally wish that your bottom pair d can do that. And he did that CONSISTENTLY.

Brannstrom-Zub as a pairing was second only to Sanderson-Zub.

I suspect he'll get passed around the league on minimum contracts for a few seasons and then head back to Europe. Would love to be wrong but I don't see it for him. He was offered around the league for like a year before someone finally scooped him up for 900k. I think that's probably his fit in the league.

I don't view the player in the same light even if he filled in admirably. I'd have been fine with him for a 3rd pairing role, but prefer Kleven for what he brings (on paper at least, tbd on ice) and JBD for costing less than half and imo being relatively equal in a 3rd pairing role.

 

[aragorn]

You think that Korpisalo, Chychrun and Joseph were more consistent than those players..... Were talking effort and preparation too.

No shit about Brannstrom. What's your point?... The market clearly dictated he wasn't worth close to his qualifying offer. That's why they didn't do it. That's why anyone complaining about them not doing it is lost. No one wanted Brannstrom the couldn't even get a 7th round pick for him at the trade deadline. Says nothing about the organization. Playoff teams don't have 5'8 d men in their top 6. He is a #7 making 100 k over league minimum. It says Staios knows what he's doing and this organization is finally on the right track. The Brannstrom crying around here is hilarious. He got a 1 year deal at 900 k. He's worthless He's too small. Do you watch playoff hockey? Its on from April to June. Those teams don't have Branntsrom like players in the lineup. Especially the teams that play in June. Lundqvist was getting 3 minutes of ice time a game when Dallas was forced to dress him with Hakaanpaas injury. Finally they put in Petrovic and he was capable of playing a normal shift.

Lundqvist, Boqvist and Brannstrom were not qualified. All 3!!! how much more evidence do ya'll need to start to accept the reality undersized d men who can't burn are worthless. Time to face the reality of what's happening folks. Quit being in Denial. Hockey is a physical sport.

JBD was only on waivers at the start of the year when the sens were over the cap and Dorion blew the cap situation. He was never healthy scratched due to off ice issues like Joseph was. Secondly i dont care for him either but atleast he can actually defend at this level unlike superstar Erik Branntsrom.

If you understand the game well enough you can see JBD actually makes strong defensive reads in the neutral zone holding the blue line. Something Branntsrom never did. Only other d man that can do it is Sanderson.

Chychrun oh yeah what an asset another player No one wanted at the trade deadline last year for anything of significance. You got one thing right though, no UFA RHD did want to sign here. Atleast the sens finally have a GM that knows what this teams weaknesses are. So he got one for an asset that never fit and was going to walk for nothing in less than a year. Chychrun was never a fit, much like you guys Dorion was playing NHL 2023 building his team. Thankfully someone that played the sport and knows what an NHL dressing room needs and is supposed to look like is in charge. Dorion walked right over the logo in Bingo. Insane that someone ran a pro hockey team for that long let alone an NHL team without basic knowledge like that. How could he have possibly been qualified to build a pro team that can win when he doesn't know the basics of a pro dressing room.

Imagine all this whining and Complaining about a calculated GM trying to pull this organization out of the basement of missing the playoffs for 7 years because it was run like a 12 year old playing a video game on GM mode for half a decade.

Good post, the market determines player value. Chychrun returned a much older player in Jensen that plays the "right"side" & a 3rd much less than most thought he was worth. Brannstrom was not re-signed because his value was less than half the money he was getting here & he would be a liability in the playoffs.

A lot of people thought that Joseph was a pretty good player here & yet Staois had to add a 3rd rd pick to move him out only to get future considerations in return. That is a pretty high price to pay which I assume they paid it because they really wanted him gone. So far Staois has gotten rid of most of the players I thought neeeded to be moved out in Korpisalo, Chychrun, Joseph, Brannstrom, Kelly, Kubalik, Katchouk, Smejkal & Chartier. I was happily surprised Staois was able to include Korpisalo in the trade for Ullmark. I suspect Forsberg & Hamonic will be gone at some point next season or at the end of next season when their conttracts expire. Not a popular view, but the GM seems to have thought the same about moving those players out.

 

[bert]

JBD sucks compared to Brannstrom. Not significantly stronger, turns over the puck even more on the boards and with none of the puck moving ability and transition play of Brannstrom.

Neither are any good. But his reads defensively are way better. He's better at boxing out, better at disrupting a cycle and he is better at blocking shots, he's better at keeping the other team honest because he can step up and make you pay. As a bottom pair d man your role is to not hurt your team. He causes less blatant goals against than Brannstsrom. He would make almost a 3rd of what Branntsrom would have made here. It was an absolute no brainer. To think paying Branntsrom 2.2 million is a good allocation of cap is asinine. 900k that's what he got from 32 NHL teams.

Brannstrom is actually a great depth player. Contenders will probably keep picking him up for good cheap depth who they know can play and step up.

I mean we have seen Brannstrom play top 4 minutes for significant period of time. And did he suck at it ? No.

He was unbelievable for a guy making 1- 2 mill. How is that canon fodder? You literally wish that your bottom pair d can do that. And he did that CONSISTENTLY.

Brannstrom-Zub as a pairing was second only to Sanderson-Zub.

So good that 0 teams in the NHL would pay him that haha. You'd need quite the ego to think you know better than the entire league.

When forwards in the NHL lineup against Brannstrom they lick their chops. They know it's gonna be an easy night. That's how players think. Not gonna have to pay the price. They'll get to the net easily. They dont have to worry about keeping their head up and they get to dump the puck in the corner of s tiny d man who isn't fast. That's what the coach is telling them. It's gonna be an easy night on the road if we get pucks in deep.

 

[DueDiligence]

JBD sucks compared to Brannstrom. Not significantly stronger, turns over the puck even more on the boards and with none of the puck moving ability and transition play of Brannstrom.

And D+ is better than D- but neither is desirable.

 

[Burrowsaurus]

Neither are any good. But his reads defensively are way better. He's better at boxing out, better at disrupting a cycle and he is better at blocking shots, he's better at keeping the other team honest because he can step up and make you pay. As a bottom pair d man your role is to not hurt your team. He causes less blatant goals against than Brannstsrom. He would make almost a 3rd of what Branntsrom would have made here. It was an absolute no brainer. To think paying Branntsrom 2.2 million is a good allocation of cap is asinine. 900k that's what he got from 32 NHL teams.


So good that 0 teams in the NHL would pay him that haha. You'd need quite the ego to think you know better than the entire league.

When forwards in the NHL lineup against Brannstrom they lick their chops. They know it's gonna be an easy night. That's how players think. Not gonna have to pay the price. They'll get to the net easily. They dont have to worry about keeping their head up and they get to dump the puck in the corner of s tiny d man who isn't fast. That's what the coach is telling them. It's gonna be an easy night on the road if we get pucks in deep.

If other forwards were really picking on brannstrom like you say he would have simply been a -35 and he would be retired

And if they were initially licking their chops then they quickly realized it wasn’t going to be as easy as they originally thought. Because brannstrom is a fine defender.

No numbers say brannstrom got dominated.

 

[HSF]

Sure you can. Last year, we qualified Pinto after his ELC expired at 874k to preserve his rights, contract talks broke off for a while when he got suspended, then we signed him to a deal for less than his QO at 775k.

that's what I mean

you can not qualify then sign him

If he wanted to be here

 

[Tuna99]

If other forwards were really picking on brannstrom like you say he would have simply been a -35 and he would be retired

And if they were initially licking their chops then they quickly realized it wasn’t going to be as easy as they originally thought. Because brannstrom is a fine defender.

No numbers say brannstrom got dominated.

He can’t be the first guy in a corner so what kinda coach wants a defenceman like that? Numbers aside, there’s just the reality of Brannstrom is on the ice he needs a 2nd body to help him on the boards because he just gets swallowed up. And he didn’t have the speed or size to go up the boards with the puck

I’m not anti Brannstrom but I’m a big believer your D have to go into the corner and come out with the puck which Brannstrom cannot do