Erie Otters 2024 - 25 Season Thread, Part I

[DubCee21]

Not sure if this trade would ever happen and the cost would be high being within your division. But Jackson Parsons of Kitchener is probably available in their rebuilding yr. He's an OA and probably would want to be the number one goalkeeper. The other issue is this trade could have happened back in Sept but with how the Rangers are playing now he may not be available. If the Rangers do slide then maybe????

After all the moving they did to fit Misiak on the roster and bringing in Erliden as a legit #1, this scenario has zero chance of happening for a rental that will want to be #1. Not to mention the cost of making this happen.

 

[OttersFan]

Not sure if this trade would ever happen and the cost would be high being within your division. But Jackson Parsons of Kitchener is probably available in their rebuilding yr. He's an OA and probably would want to be the number one goalkeeper. The other issue is this trade could have happened back in Sept but with how the Rangers are playing now he may not be available. If the Rangers do slide then maybe????

Totally not happening here. I don’t know much about the goalie scene to know who would be the best fit. I was solely basing it off of which teams aren’t huge contenders that would be willing to give up someone.

 

[Guy In Burlington]

How about Lalonde?

EDIT: Never mind, I see he’s from Kingston and I’m sure he’s not leaving there. But talk about a guy who’s revived his chances at a pro career all of a sudden.

 

[Mata]

How about Lalonde?

EDIT: Never mind, I see he’s from Kingston and I’m sure he’s not leaving there. But talk about a guy who’s revived his chances at a pro career all of a sudden.

That would be ironic if he came back here after we traded him in a vote of no confidence in his development!

Gibbons and Lalonde are both having formidable seasons right now. Curious as to why they didn't here.

Without looking at age, role, etc, goalies that'd fit the need:

Leenders - Brantford
Marshall - Sudbury
Vaccari - Kingston
Miller - SOO
Nelson - Ottawa
MacKenzie- Ottawa

That's a small sample size, but would be a solid back-up and potential future netminder depending on age.

 

[7D442]

All I know is something needs done - you can’t tell me their is no one out there out of 1000’s of good to great BUGS in the world that wouldn’t wan to play on a decent team in the best league in the world and in the OHL.. and I don’t want to hear nor do I believe that no one would want to play here… I mean, 10-year-olds and my son that can verify 2 to 3 NHL scouts in the stands some games… Whether they were here for Spence ,Schaefer or Erliden I don’t know… But there was two alone last game at home..

Who did we have again 3 to 5 years ago, he was a back up from Sudbury I think .. He was decent right? Someone that type of caliber that’s decent and we can get two years out of -this year and next year..

 

[OttersFan]

All I know is something needs done - you can’t tell me their is no one out there out of 1000’s of good to great BUGS in the world that wouldn’t wan to play on a decent team in the best league in the world and in the OHL.. and I don’t want to hear nor do I believe that no one would want to play here… I mean, 10-year-olds and my son that can verify 2 to 3 NHL scouts in the stands some games… Whether they were here for Spence ,Schaefer or Erliden I don’t know… But there was two alone last game at home..

Who did we have again 3 to 5 years ago, he was a back up from Sudbury I think .. He was decent right? Someone that type of caliber that’s decent and we can get two years out of -this year and next year..

That was Troy Timpano.

 

[Mata]

Unsure if Knight is hurt, he warmed up but hasn't played a shift I've seen through 2 periods.

Also, both offensively and defensively we are running like 2.5 lines. Yes, we are up 3-0 but not a good sign IMO.

 

[OttersFan]

Misiak is out with an injury. Specifically what kind of injury wasn’t disclosed to me.

 

[NOA]

Thank goodness Erie has Erliden, otherwise this season would be in the toilet considering their backup play. Somehow their backup play is looking worse than last year which was historically bad. While they could trade for someone currently in the OHL, they could also find someone who just for whatever reason hasn’t gotten the opportunity yet at the OHL level. Joe Murdaca is a great example. They don’t need a 1b starter type. They literally just need someone to play like 18-20 games and give Erliden some rest during the long stretches. Anything around .890% would do but at this point and considering what they have gotten this year and last year, even around .880 would do. Just give someone else an opportunity, please. Bring in another body

 

[Eerie]

Kinda tough to put together a 5-6 game winning streak with our backup now. Moving up the standings is basically impossible. A new BUG is a must.

 

[OttersFan]

We had 6-8 prospects during orientation that I’m sure would rise to the opportunity.

 

[ZinErie]

Erie signed 17y/o free agent tender Jackson Curran during training camp. In his one exhibition games appearance he gave up 10 goals on 26 shots.

 

[Moroz]

Kinda tough to put together a 5-6 game winning streak with our backup now. Moving up the standings is basically impossible. A new BUG is a must.

I agree with Eerie and the others who have posted on this subject. A new BUG is indeed a must. A couple additional thoughts:

1. Goaltending has been a problem for what seems like ages now. Dave Brown gets credit for landing Erliden, but that does not excuse the failure to get an OHL quality BUG.

2. What happens if Erliden suffers an injury? The whole season could be lost. It is unacceptable to be in such a risky position.

3. This team is a solid 3 or 4 seed with decent No. 1 and decent BUG goaltending. Depending upon how some players develop (and the early returns are encouraging), the team could even give Kitchener/London a run for their money for the division title. Absent decent BUG goaltending, holding unto the 3 or 4 seed will be hard without running Erliden into the ground. Even then, I think the failure to address the BUG situation (aside from the catastrophic risk of an Erliden injury) could well mean dropping to a 5 or 6 seed if Erliden falters in the slightest. The result would be the loss of home ice advantage and having to play a much stronger opponent in the first round.

Bottom line, there is no time to waste in addressing this situation.

 

[Guy In Burlington]

Back in his Battalion days, Butler was pretty famous for scouring the waiver wire out west around this time of year to see which overagers had suddenly become available. Wonder if that’s something he and Brown are doing now. Obviously all three current overagers are pretty huge this year, but maybe there are some non-OA options available.

 

[DubCee21]

Something else to think about. Erliden is surely gone for Worlds Jrs and that means Burns is taking the workload in his absence. Terrance, Spence, and Schaefer will likely get serious looks as well. I won't be surprised if they drop points and standings. Who do they call up as BUG during this time?

 

[NOA]

Something else to think about. Erliden is surely gone for Worlds Jrs and that means Burns is taking the workload in his absence. Terrance, Spence, and Schaefer will likely get serious looks as well. I won't be surprised if they drop points and standings. Who do they call up as BUG during this time?

Great point. They will struggle to win games especially with Burns. I don’t think Spence will make it and Terrance could be a toss up. But without Schaefer and Erliden, they are going to be in a tough spot

 

[mattommy98]

Niagara is for sure in the same bot as you guys without Flores the season is gone lol

 

[ZinErie]

Something else to think about. Erliden is surely gone for Worlds Jrs and that means Burns is taking the workload in his absence. Terrance, Spence, and Schaefer will likely get serious looks as well. I won't be surprised if they drop points and standings. Who do they call up as BUG during this time?

Well, Curran is signed so I assume it would be him.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Something else to think about. Erliden is surely gone for Worlds Jrs and that means Burns is taking the workload in his absence. Terrance, Spence, and Schaefer will likely get serious looks as well. I won't be surprised if they drop points and standings. Who do they call up as BUG during this time?

I don't think Spence, Schaefer or Erliden will be gone at WJ. Too many really good, high end 05 and 06 D-men in Canada to take an 07 in Schafer, although he is a stud.

Sweden has 3 '05 NHL drafted goalies in Melker Thelin, Melvin Strahl and Olof Glifford. And then '06 NHL drafted Marcus Gidlof.

Erliden did play 2 international games with the U20 national team last year and lost both

 

[OttersFan]

I know stars don’t mean anything, but Maillet of Sarnia deserved one yesterday.

Could we go after him for cheap?

 

[Guy In Burlington]

I know stars don’t mean anything, but Maillet of Sarnia deserved one yesterday.

Could we go after him for cheap?

Well I assume he’d be comfortable in that room. He was the goalie on the 2006-born Mississauga Senators and played with Spence and Frasca. Plus Michael Misa, William Moore, Riley Patterson, etc.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

Can you guys shed any light on how Terrance has looked this season? His lack of production is concerning, but I'm curious to hear from those who are watching him closely.

 

[drearyerie]

Can you guys shed any light on how Terrance has looked this season? His lack of production is concerning, but I'm curious to hear from those who are watching him closely.

His lack of production is more than likely due to his centering what is essentially the 3rd line. A couple weeks into the season, Butler separated Terrance and Spence. Spence moved to a line with Fimis and Alfano, and that line has been, by and large, the best forward line.

Terrance now has Edwards and Royston as his wingers. Edwards put up great numbers last season, but as this season goes on, it's looking more and more like he was a product of playing with Fimis/Alfano. Royston is a big body, but lacks the skills and finesse to be playing routinely on a skilled line.

Terrance has played great. Better at faceoffs this season, is in the right spot and the right times, back checks really well. He's just struggling to produce because his linemates are struggling to produce. Anytime you see him on a penalty kill with Spence, a 4 on 4 situation, or on the power play, he's playing fantastic.

 

[NOA]

His lack of production is more than likely due to his centering what is essentially the 3rd line. A couple weeks into the season, Butler separated Terrance and Spence. Spence moved to a line with Fimis and Alfano, and that line has been, by and large, the best forward line.

Terrance now has Edwards and Royston as his wingers. Edwards put up great numbers last season, but as this season goes on, it's looking more and more like he was a product of playing with Fimis/Alfano. Royston is a big body, but lacks the skills and finesse to be playing routinely on a skilled line.

Terrance has played great. Better at faceoffs this season, is in the right spot and the right times, back checks really well. He's just struggling to produce because his linemates are struggling to produce. Anytime you see him on a penalty kill with Spence, a 4 on 4 situation, or on the power play, he's playing fantastic.

Exactly what I would say too. He’s being asked to do more with less and unfortunately, his stats aren’t showing much as a result. He does have 7pts (including 4 goals) in his last 6 so maybe he’s starting to get going more.

 

[Mata]

Exactly what I would say too. He’s being asked to do more with less and unfortunately, his stats aren’t showing much as a result. He does have 7pts (including 4 goals) in his last 6 so maybe he’s starting to get going more.

I think Stan had to do something because the Frasca/Spence reuinion has, at least to this point, been a failure.

Spence being in his draft year can help the Otters in the short term significantly from a marketing perspective should he and Schaefer both be top 5 (they likely will both be top 10).

In doing so, Terrance has been forced to take more of a grit role, as was described. IMO Roysten, Hammond, and Messier have not taken the necessary jumps to this point and Edwards has regressed. Call it whatever you want, but I feel the top 9 on paper to start were stellar and haven't played to expectations, Terrance included. If they were, we wouldn't be seeing line shifts reminiscent of the Hartsburg Era.