Erie Otters 2022-23 Season Thread

[Mata]

The third was pretty much a repeat of the 2nd. Lots of positive energy and they forced OT.

Gilmartin with the playmaker and the crowd of 1500 feels like 5k.

 

[OttersFan]

The refs blew this one. Good lord

 

[Mata]

Spence got nailed in OT and no call and then I believe it was Cohen who got tripped at the high slot and they scored the winner. The officiating in OT was horrendous.

 

[OttersFan]

Spence got nailed in OT and no call and then I believe it was Cohen who got tripped at the high slot and they scored the winner. The officiating in OT was horrendous.

Our PK could’ve been better which one could argue, however, the refs wanted nothing to do with Erie. It was an obvious trip.

Lalonde needed that game and the refs blew it. The inconsistency needs to be reviewed.

I wish RJ King didn’t ref here. I know other refs are from other OHL cities so it’s not uncommon, but we need a fresh face. He’s always here since he’s a cheap assignment. He lives minutes from the rink being from Erie.

While I’m still on my rant, can we get some better reporting from Schieg? I’m sorry, I don’t care about Colby Barlow and I don’t care he’s the captain. Can we get some interviews in regards to the change in direction from Erie and changed player mentality?

 

[Mata]

Our PK could’ve been better which one could argue, however, the refs wanted nothing to do with Erie. It was an obvious trip.

Lalonde needed that game and the refs blew it. The inconsistency needs to be reviewed.

I wish RJ King didn’t ref here. I know other refs are from other OHL cities so it’s not uncommon, but we need a fresh face. He’s always here since he’s a cheap assignment. He lives minutes from the rink being from Erie.

While I’m still on my rant, can we get some better reporting from Schieg? I’m sorry, I don’t care about Colby Barlow and I don’t care he’s the captain. Can we get some interviews in regards to the change in direction from Erie and changed player mentality?

I quit following him after it became apparent he just fluffs everything and is seldom objective in his assessments.

 

[OttersFan]

I quit following him after it became apparent he just fluffs everything and is seldom objective in his assessments.

His two buddies were both fired so now he has no reason to give us decent reporting. It’s a shame.

 

[OttersFan]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but OS scored twice on the same PP. Minors called at 8:29 in the first, Kulakov got 2 for roughing and Stewart got 2 for removing his helmet. Both off set for 2 mins.

Then Johnson takes a penalty at 8:55 so now it’s 5-4. Penalty would expire at 10:55.

OS scored at 9:26 and again at 10:49 both PP goals.

How is that possible?

 

[Guy In Burlington]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but OS scored twice on the same PP. Minors called at 8:29 in the first, Kulakov got 2 for roughing and Stewart got 2 for removing his helmet. Both off set for 2 mins.

Then Johnson takes a penalty at 8:55 so now it’s 5-4. Penalty would expire at 10:55.

OS scored at 9:26 and again at 10:49 both PP goals.

How is that possible?

Great question. I just watched the video to see if there was an error with the goal times on the scoresheet, but there isn’t. And the video clearly shows Erie was short handed on both goals. I’m stumped.

EDIT: Kulakov must have got four for roughing even though the sheet has him getting just two. He (or whoever might have served his extra two) came out after the goal at 9:26, so that must have been an OS power play even though the gamesheet doesn’t suggest it.

 

[StingUpdates]

Insult to injury, but on that OT winner it was offside too. At the top the OS F still had 1 foot on the ice as OS entered the zone.

Was it not reviewed?

 

[OttersFan]

Insult to injury, but on that OT winner it was offside too. At the top the OS F still had 1 foot on the ice as OS entered the zone.

Was it not reviewed?

No, and the Erie captains went to the refs to ask for a review. The refs just pointed to the dressing room doors and told them to get off the ice. OS already was celebrating on the ice and their coaches were off the bench headed to the locker room.

I’m not one to complain about the refs, but they blew 3 calls in OT. First on Malcolm Spence who was cross checked, the trip in front of Lalonde which led to the OT winner, and the offsides.

Great question. I just watched the video to see if there was an error with the goal times on the scoresheet, but there isn’t. And the video clearly shows Erie was short handed on both goals. I’m stumped.

EDIT: Kulakov must have got four for roughing even though the sheet has him getting just two. He (or whoever might have served his extra two) came out after the goal at 9:26, so that must have been an OS power play even though the gamesheet doesn’t suggest it.

I didn’t notice anyone else in the box except Kulakov and Johnson. They didn’t announce the two served by x player. I need to rewatch the game to see what happened.

 

[Guy In Burlington]

I didn’t notice anyone else in the box except Kulakov and Johnson. They didn’t announce the two served by x player. I need to rewatch the game to see what happened.

Interesting. I’d be curious to know the answer if you do rewatch that part.

 

[Mata]

Insult to injury, but on that OT winner it was offside too. At the top the OS F still had 1 foot on the ice as OS entered the zone.

Was it not reviewed?

The refs, mostly King, were being straight up dicks to the players.

One of the Otters guys skated over when Papais hit them to show he was bleeding from the mouth. The ref told him to get the hell away from him, don't talk to him and go sit on the bench. There was a small conference and the refs decided it was cross checking to the face and not high sticking.

 

[Stellar29]

Correct me if I’m wrong, but OS scored twice on the same PP. Minors called at 8:29 in the first, Kulakov got 2 for roughing and Stewart got 2 for removing his helmet. Both off set for 2 mins.

Then Johnson takes a penalty at 8:55 so now it’s 5-4. Penalty would expire at 10:55.

OS scored at 9:26 and again at 10:49 both PP goals.

How is that possible?

The 2 PP goals on the same power play was a mistake between the refs and the officials in the box. It was mentioned on the TV broadcast in the second period. It's a pretty brutal mistake to make.

Overall, the game wasn't particularly well officiated. Have to give Erie their due for battling in the game. They had every excuse to pack it in down 4-0 but never quit.

 

[Guy In Burlington]

The 2 PP goals on the same power play was a mistake between the refs and the officials in the box. It was mentioned on the TV broadcast in the second period. It's a pretty brutal mistake to make.

Overall, the game wasn't particularly well officiated. Have to give Erie their due for battling in the game. They had every excuse to pack it in down 4-0 but never quit.

What??? A goal was scored on Kulakov’s penalty and they didn’t let him out, then they scored again a man up? Unreal.

 

[Stellar29]

What??? A goal was scored on Kulakov’s penalty and they didn’t let him out, then they scored again a man up? Unreal.

Kulakov and Stewart went off for offsetting minors. Playing 4 on 4, Erie takes a penalty to go down 4 on 3. Owen Sound scores on the PP which should have returned the game to 4 on 4 pending the end of the original offsetting minors. Instead, they let Kulakov out of the box and kept the other Erie player in the box to remain on a penalty kill. Owen Sound then scores on a PP that they shouldn't have had. Truly bizarre mistake to make.

 

[Guy In Burlington]

Kulakov and Stewart went off for offsetting minors. Playing 4 on 4, Erie takes a penalty to go down 4 on 3. Owen Sound scores on the PP which should have returned the game to 4 on 4 pending the end of the original offsetting minors. Instead, they let Kulakov out of the box and kept the other Erie player in the box to remain on a penalty kill. Owen Sound then scores on a PP that they shouldn't have had. Truly bizarre mistake to make.

Ok yes, that’s what I should have said. Too early in the morning when I read the gamesheet today lol. Either way, brutal and embarrassing. Just wondering how Erie’s coaches missed that, or whether they caught it and the refs just ignored them.

 

[Mata]

Kulakov and Stewart went off for offsetting minors. Playing 4 on 4, Erie takes a penalty to go down 4 on 3. Owen Sound scores on the PP which should have returned the game to 4 on 4 pending the end of the original offsetting minors. Instead, they let Kulakov out of the box and kept the other Erie player in the box to remain on a penalty kill. Owen Sound then scores on a PP that they shouldn't have had. Truly bazar mistake to make.

The crazy part is they score keepers and guy in the box let Johnston out first and the refs sent him back into the box and let Kulakov out.

*shrugs*

 

[DubCee21]

Our PK could’ve been better which one could argue, however, the refs wanted nothing to do with Erie. It was an obvious trip.

Lalonde needed that game and the refs blew it. The inconsistency needs to be reviewed.

I wish RJ King didn’t ref here. I know other refs are from other OHL cities so it’s not uncommon, but we need a fresh face. He’s always here since he’s a cheap assignment. He lives minutes from the rink being from Erie.

While I’m still on my rant, can we get some better reporting from Schieg? I’m sorry, I don’t care about Colby Barlow and I don’t care he’s the captain. Can we get some interviews in regards to the change in direction from Erie and changed player mentality?

Lalonde may have needed that game but he can't spot any team in this league 4 goals and expect to come away with a win. Not all of them were completely his fault because defensive breakdowns have been the running theme of this team, but he needs to make enough saves to give them a chance. He hasn't done that all season.

King isn't a ref, he is a linesman. He doesn't give penalties so this comment makes no sense. He is, however a terrible linesman. He retired a few years ago as a linesman having over 1000 games in the ECHL, not sure if he still does NCAA games as well but this is probably why we see him more here now.

 

[DubCee21]

Kulakov and Stewart went off for offsetting minors. Playing 4 on 4, Erie takes a penalty to go down 4 on 3. Owen Sound scores on the PP which should have returned the game to 4 on 4 pending the end of the original offsetting minors. Instead, they let Kulakov out of the box and kept the other Erie player in the box to remain on a penalty kill. Owen Sound then scores on a PP that they shouldn't have had. Truly bizarre mistake to make.

I was at the game and this is exactly what happened. The penalty box official got it right by letting Johnston out first and the ref sent him back in and told Kulakov to come out. I can't believe the coaches didn't even try to dispute it or the scorekeepers speaking up. The officiating in this game was all around poorly done in this game.

 

[Millpond]

Ok yes, that’s what I should have said. Too early in the morning when I read the gamesheet today lol. Either way, brutal and embarrassing. Just wondering how Erie’s coaches missed that, or whether they caught it and the refs

 

[ZinErie]

I was at the game and this is exactly what happened. The penalty box official got it right by letting Johnston out first and the ref sent him back in and told Kulakov to come out. I can't believe the coaches didn't even try to dispute it or the scorekeepers speaking up. The officiating in this game was all around poorly done in this game.

None of the other officials or the Otters coaches noticed. Pretty damning to all involved. Ridiculous.

 

[OttersFan]

Spoke to Jim Waters before the game. They wanted to challenge the off sides call from their box in the OTL to OS but their radio malfunctioned and couldn’t tell the coaches to challenge the goal in time. He said it was interference and offsides that was missed.

He said they really messed up on the two goals on the OS PP.

He said the team is looking up. There’s been a more “upbeat vibe” to the team and change is coming. They’re taking their time. He didn’t really elaborate much further.

Jokingly he told me to put the stripes on tonight.

 

[OttersFan]

#72 on Oshawa was playing without his chin strap fastened, no call

 

[OttersFan]

Bresette was at the game. He’s warming up with the team but obviously very limited. He’s in a sling but said he’s feeling much better.

 

[You Otter Be There]

Just curious on who’s jersey went for the most last night on the Blacked Out Jersey’s? Wish they would save one or two for the dash website.