Erie Otters 2022-23 Season Thread

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Mata

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Erie probabky drafted Molnar with the same expectations they had with Slafkovsky last year.

They’re hoping after the NHL draft, the player signs a contract with his NHL team (Young EU players almost always have an NHL out clause) is then sent down to Erie to develop post draft - similar to Tomas Hamara in Kitchener.

These drafts aren’t always expecting the kid to come over right after - calculated risks are taken all the time. Do you take a less talented player who is guaranteed to report, or a 16/17 year old kid that you’re hoping reports after being drafted into the NHL?


The biggest problem is outside of Kulakov, Erie hadn't had an import since Sopa (via trade). The last two imports drafted were Cjeka and Puddubnyi.

So do you draft a "home run" player that never reports year after year or do you end up taking a slightly above average player you know will report?

It is amazing to think of the what if with Molnar and Slafkovsky, but the bigger issue IMO is land imports consistenly.
 
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The biggest problem is outside of Kulakov, Erie hadn't had an import since Sopa (via trade). The last two imports drafted were Cjeka and Puddubnyi.

So do you draft a "home run" player that never reports year after year or do you end up taking a slightly above average player you know will report?

It is amazing to think of the what if with Molnar and Slafkovsky, but the bigger issue IMO is land imports consistenly.

Yes- At this point I would take a low 2nd / high 3rd rounder w our (1st ) import pick that actually shows up / commits and wants to compete

Whoever has been specifically in charge of the import situation ( and I don’t mean Kulakov ) YOUR FIRED !!
 

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So do you draft a "home run" player that never reports year after year or do you end up taking a slightly above average player you know will report?
I mean, do you really want another Meyenshein? I'd rather not have an import if players of his caliber are going to be the ones to report. I'd would much rather them swing on a decent player and miss than take a guaranteed body that just takes up space on the roster. The import draft has produced a wide array of player caliber for the Otters. It's been hit and miss across the league. There have been some gambles with Dansk, Burakovsky, Cernak, Slafkovsky, Khusnutdinov, Kolosov with half of them reporting. Kolosov likely would have been here if not for Covid. Then there have been some decent players like Cajka who left after their draft chances were stunted by bad coaching. Kulakov is a capable 2nd/3rd pairing D. The point is you really never know what you're going to get. Teams often have to rely on outside scouting or limited viewing with international tournaments.
 

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I mean, do you really want another Meyenshein? I'd rather not have an import if players of his caliber are going to be the ones to report. I'd would much rather them swing on a decent player and miss than take a guaranteed body that just takes up space on the roster. The import draft has produced a wide array of player caliber for the Otters. It's been hit and miss across the league. There have been some gambles with Dansk, Burakovsky, Cernak, Slafkovsky, Khusnutdinov, Kolosov with half of them reporting. Kolosov likely would have been here if not for Covid. Then there have been some decent players like Cajka who left after their draft chances were stunted by bad coaching. Kulakov is a capable 2nd/3rd pairing D. The point is you really never know what you're going to get. Teams often have to rely on outside scouting or limited viewing with international tournaments.
I totally agree that I would rather them swing on someone than take a guaranteed hit on a depth player at best like Patry. The problems aren’t the swings but the constant strikeouts - especially when they have had higher picks during this rebuild. Having Cajka be around for 2-3 years as opposed to one, having a goalie like Kolosov actually show, and adding someone like Molnar to the roster would have changed the trajectory of some of these teams. Yes COVID hurt but a lot of it is Erie doesn’t handle the import draft well and they haven’t since about forever. Even Burakovsky and Cernak were not a guarantee. Both only showed up thanks to NHL teams putting them here. Sometimes that’s the game you have to play but also sometimes, you just need to recruit better
 

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Molnar looks really good today, flying and showing his shot. I had doubts he’d be at the WJC but I think a top 6 role is in the cards with how he plays with Dvorsky and Ciernik. I still think he ends up reporting at some point, even if it’s in January. Small inkling that after this tournament ends he heads to Erie, though.
 
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Molnar looks really good today, flying and showing his shot. I had doubts he’d be at the WJC but I think a top 6 role is in the cards with how he plays with Dvorsky and Ciernik. I still think he ends up reporting at some point, even if it’s in January. Small inkling that after this tournament ends he heads to Erie, though.

Let’s hope so - otherwise I could be eating
some crow
 
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Let’s hope so - otherwise I could be eating
some crow
For real, let’s hope. I watched some highlights and read a few more stories on him today. I just feel he could really develop into a legit guy in this league. Would be huge signing
 
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Anyone have any news on Malcom Spence? Looks like he has only played in 2 of 6 games in the U17 tournament for Canada Black.
 

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Anyone have any news on Malcom Spence? Looks like he has only played in 2 of 6 games in the U17 tournament for Canada Black.
I read they had illnesses throughout the team so it’s possible he’s sick? Or hurt
 
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Molnar looks really good today, flying and showing his shot. I had doubts he’d be at the WJC but I think a top 6 role is in the cards with how he plays with Dvorsky and Ciernik. I still think he ends up reporting at some point, even if it’s in January. Small inkling that after this tournament ends he heads to Erie, though.

All I know is Otters brass better be chirping in his ear if he is on this side of the pond. This team is playing well and if he's a piece we can add to take it a step further, great!
 

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There’s the old Otters I know!! Classic. Collapse a lead. Get blown out in the 3rd. Horrendous goalie play. Checked all the boxes of a 2017/18 - 2021/22 loss.


I’ve said it before but I’ll repeat - a big part of being good versus being bad is consistency. And that’s both in games and across a season. Awesome, they had a 5 game win streak. But to follow that up with back to back losses, especially in the way they lost, is disappointing at best. Now you are at risk of dropping 3 in a row if you lose tomorrow and next weekend you have a tough one vs OTT. Bottom line - is a 5 game win streak impressive if you follow it up with a 1-4 stretch? No. Now before everyone gets their panties in a bunch … yes I’m aware that the next few games are still ahead of them and they can still win them.. but historically speaking and how this team plays, I’m not feeling confident that they will.

Also Lalonde has been pretty bad the last few games and overall, I expected more. We can all blame the defense but across the league, goalies face defensive breakdowns night in and out. The best goalies can bail their guys out more but Lalonde has not really done that since the first weekend he played. He’s been pretty average to bad since. More than anything from tonight, that’s not a good sign and frustrating to see. If it were me, I would sit him tomorrow. He simply can’t give up 7 on 30 shots. That’s unacceptable. Downey and Nicholls can give you that same production but at least the excuse with them is that you expect it..
 

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Otters lose 8-5 tonight in OS. LaLonde looked awful and the team outscored 5-0 in the 3rd period. Had a chance to sit 2nd place tonight and now are one game away from 8th
 
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Otters lose 8-5 tonight in OS. LaLonde looked awful and the team outscored 5-0 in the 3rd period. Had a chance to sit 2nd place tonight and now are one game away from 8th
Back to reality, unfortunately
 

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Otters lose 8-5 tonight in OS. LaLonde looked awful and the team outscored 5-0 in the 3rd period. Had a chance to sit 2nd place tonight and now are one game away from 8th

No excuses, we are still down Cohen and Spence but man does it look like an identity crisis is brewing. The behavior at the end after being outscored 5-0 is inexcusable 100% of the time. If it can't get reeled in fast it could get really ugly really quickly. Wouldn't be surprised to see a multi-game suspension for Kulakov from last night's events.
 
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Not sure if this was previously mentioned, but it appears Marshall Nicholls has been waived/released, as he's no longer listed on the roster:

Ontario Hockey League – Official Site of the Ontario Hockey League
Can’t be surprised given the asset spent on Downey. It’s just interesting that Downey seems like the same type of player and somehow we thought we were better off with him. I guess the only positive is his age (2004) compared to Nicholls (2003) and his slightly bigger frame. Let’s hope it works out for them but Downey needs to give more this year if it is ever going to be worth it.
 

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Well, I called it. The losing skid has started. Consistency is still not the identity of this team. Also, Lalonde needs to sit. Bad performances are piling up here. He should be on the bench next weekend
 

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Rough weekend in Owen Sound.

For sure...Saturday had to be really demoralizing...then the way it finished didn't set up for a good outcome today. Missing Cohen, Spence, Kulakov is I assume suspended and/or benched, Johnston still out and that's all I can think of at this point, but yeah, Owen Sound punched them in the face where it counted, in the W/L column.

The only positive of the weekend is Dylan Edwards has become more noticeable.

And Othmann got traded 😆
 
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For sure...Saturday had to be really demoralizing...then the way it finished didn't set up for a good outcome today. Missing Cohen, Spence, Kulakov is I assume suspended and/or benched, Johnston still out and that's all I can think of at this point, but yeah, Owen Sound punched them in the face where it counted, in the W/L column.



And Othmann got traded 😆
League site says Kulakov suspended indefinitely. Just means they don't look at weekend suspension till Monday or later .
 

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Kulakov is suspended and there’s no justification for what he did. He took it too far at a time where we already knew we lost. The extra curricular were unnecessary.

Question is how many games does everyone predict he gets? The player who he “intended to injure” as the announcers said, sat out today. I’d suspect he suffered a concussion from Kulakov.

My best guess at minimum, he gets 4-5 to make a statement. He’s had a few fights this year, and it’ll depend how long the other guy is out. I could also be wrong with my guess, but two games sounds soft.
 
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League site says Kulakov suspended indefinitely. Just means they don't look at weekend suspension till Monday or later .
He got a match penalty which comes with an automatic three game suspension pending league review where they can either reverse it or tack on more games. My guess is he gets more games because not only was this unnecessary at the end of a game, he also has suspension history.
 
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