Frankly he should have gone second even with that contract, although one can see why the 2 big potential franchise centers went ahead of him.
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karltonian
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Again, given what was going on in the world outside of the literally unimportant game of hockey, it is not surprising AT ALL that he fell.
SannywithoutCompy
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Pretty crazy rookie class we're getting to witness. Honestly don't know how you choose at this point. Feels like you could go 1A 1B 1C 1D lol
If Michkov becomes Kucherov 2.0 and Celebrini becomes Barkov 2.0 it's still Kuch 2.0 all the time...
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It is defniteily a 1a and 1b and 1c situation right now. Little point in trying to debate too much between Michkov and Celebrini and Dustin Wolf right now. Maybe 1-2d with Hutson too, not that crazy a take.
Yes...it is a close rookie race, with rookies racing out for our watching!
Yes...it is a close rookie race, with rookies racing out for our watching!
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HabbyGuy
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Indeed!
Not sure what this has to do with this year's calder race though?
Luigi Lemieux
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Celebrini's offensive potential is much higher than Barkov.
Since 2020-21 season Barkov has scored 331 points in 277 games. So you say Celebrini will have much better stats than 1.2 point/game? I very doubt it.
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That's Barkov's absolute peak, a 98 point pace. Yes Celebrini will eclipse that fairly easily at his peak.
I mean you're comparing Michkov to 144 point Kucherov, which is much more outlandish.
Even if he's going to be a better point producer than Barkov, there is no any objective facts that say that Celebrini will be a perennial Selke contender. So a little bit better scorer, a little bit worse defender, it's still more or less Barkov's level.
Not surprising he fell. A bit surprising he fell to 7. Different sport, but Jalen Carter effectively killed someone drunk driving after the national championship and the birds still took him 9th. I would think Manslaughter is scarier than Michkov's situation
The picture for your profile leads me to believe you are Sharks fan, which happens to be the team I think had the abosolute least to lose by taking Michkov. Just imagine a powerplay of :
Michkov - Celebrini - Eklund
(Hagens/Martone/Misa) - Dickinson
I'm sure Smith will be good, he does have solid potential to be star one day. That said, it is tough to imagine the above lineup and not think, "damnnnnn"
Celebrini and Michkov face basically the exact same quality of competition according to the analytics.
You're confusing sheltered for being the most skilled and best playmaker on the team. Of course he's getting Ozone draws.
Again, I still have no idea how geopolitics has anything to do with a hockey player playing in the NHL, outside of xenophobia.
And, that has played out as I expected. A fat nothingburger from the start.
Do not underestimate the impact of Hutson finally playing PP1, on the point/right side with both Caufield and Laine on the left side.
He his already 1st in completed pass to slot amongst NHL D-men WITHOUT PP1. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes PPG or very close to it until the end of season.
Michkov/Celebrini are amazing players but they have no shot at the Calder if Hutson has around 70 points.
He his already 1st in completed pass to slot amongst NHL D-men WITHOUT PP1. I wouldn’t be surprised if he goes PPG or very close to it until the end of season.
Michkov/Celebrini are amazing players but they have no shot at the Calder if Hutson has around 70 points.
All these posts that say other players have NO SHOT are making me laugh.
It's a tough decision right now and if the players involved keep up their play it will be a tough decision at the end of the year.
It's a tough decision right now and if the players involved keep up their play it will be a tough decision at the end of the year.
No, what was a tough decision was Faber vs Bedard. That ended up being a slam dunk for Bedard, somehow, and yet Michkov is performing better than Bedard did last year and it's somehow a tough decision?
Nah
Last season, only 5 defensemen produced at a PPG pace - Makar, Hughes, Josi, Fox and Bouchard. Pretty lofty projection there
Only issue with that is Celebrini is also performing better than Bedard did last year.
And even if he does Faber will still have been a better all-around 1D than Hutson.
Bouboumaster
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Lol yes. 1D, PP1, PK1. It's why Seider won the calder. How much defensive time is Hutson getting? A D can't win the calder off of being a PP specialist.
Bouboumaster
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If you think that Hutson is only a PP specialist, hockey ain't for you
He is a pretty crappy power play specialist if he actually is one.
