Epic Calder Battle in 2024-25 Season

cneely

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“Lap the field” lmao. Biased much? I don’t think any rookie ever has done anything close to what you could call “lapping the field” except maybe Gretzky. It certainly won’t be Stankoven, whose upside is likely somewhere between Brendan Gallagher and Alex DeBrincat.
Selanne.

Stankoven is a stud though.

He was doubtful for game one, so just another game or two at most I'd imagine.

As for Stankoven, Dallas had the 3rd most goals scored in the league last season. They've brought back most of that offense and there's no reason to think this year they will regress. Stankoven had 30 total minutes of PP time last season. Tonight he had 2:14. If he averages over 2 minutes per game he'll 5x that this season.

He's the one rookie in the best position to excel due to the quality of the team he plays for. He's obviously not going to continue picking up 3 points a night but yeah, 60+ points is very attainable, which will be 10+ points more than everyone else, just like Bedard last season.
I think Michkov is going to light things up if he gets rope from Torts.
 

Sting

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Will be a 3-way race between Celebrini, Stankoven, Michkov imo.
 

cneely

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Yeah, it’s such an insult to compare the great Stankoven to perennial 30 and 40 goal scorers. Lol, this place is so dumb sometimes 😂
Perennial 30 and 40 goal scorers? Gallagher has had 30 twice in 12 years. Debrincat has had 40 twice in 7 years.

I don't think perennial means what you think it means.
 
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If the Flyers Powerplay isn't historically bad like the last 2 seasons, Michkov will win it.
 

nbwingsfan

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“Lap the field” lmao. Biased much? I don’t think any rookie ever has done anything close to what you could call “lapping the field” except maybe Gretzky. It certainly won’t be Stankoven, whose upside is likely somewhere between Brendan Gallagher and Alex DeBrincat.
Depends on his definition but Seider had 170 1st place votes vs Zegras with 15
 

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He was doubtful for game one, so just another game or two at most I'd imagine.

As for Stankoven, Dallas had the 3rd most goals scored in the league last season. They've brought back most of that offense and there's no reason to think this year they will regress. Stankoven had 30 total minutes of PP time last season. Tonight he had 2:14. If he averages over 2 minutes per game he'll 5x that this season.

He's the one rookie in the best position to excel due to the quality of the team he plays for. He's obviously not going to continue picking up 3 points a night but yeah, 60+ points is very attainable, which will be 10+ points more than everyone else, just like Bedard last season.
You don't need to convince me, I love the kid.
 

Nicko999

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If Hutson has at least 50 pts while not being a liability defensively, he might win it.

Almost 23 minutes of ice time yesterday. 2nd most on the team. I expect his TOI to reach 25 min by the middle of the season. Possession numbers are ridiculous.

Celebrini and Michkov would need to be at PPG to have a chance.
 

Crow

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Was going to agree with Stankoven but I really need to watch Hutson more. I’m not familiar at all. It’s also hard to buy into hype around him on the word of rabid Habs fans. No offense, just look at the prospects board if you are offended.
 

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notbias

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Lane Hutson will win it in the end, if he doesn't get hurt

From every viewing, he doesn't look like he is willing to attack the middle of the ice.

Gets the puck at the blue line, skates around a little, the Montreal crowd goes nuts, skates into the corner, loses the puck, and repeat.

That was his entire game in the 4 viewings I've had at the NHL level.

He'll figure it out, but I don't think it'll be in time to win the Calder.

A few secondary assists don't change this opinion.

I see the potential though.
 

Khelandros

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Stankoven's going to lap the field point wise if he remains healthy. The question will be he's in Dallas so voters won't see him and 2nd how badly will he get docked for being eligible after last year's run.

the Billy Boucher disrespect is wild :sarcasm:

In the NHL's entire history, only twice has a rookie "lapped the field" in points.

1921-22 Season:

Billy Boucher - 22 points
Frank Boucher - 10 points

1922-23 Season:

Aurel Joliat - 23 points
Billy Burch - 9 points

It has been close before but only happened twice.

Selanne had 132 points as a rookie with Lindros having 76, except Joe Juneau was between them with 102. There just seems to always be the rule of two with rookies. A talent comes in, but there is always someone close to them skill wise for anyone to "lap the field".
 
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Sting

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If Hutson has at least 50 pts while not being a liability defensively, he might win it.

Almost 23 minutes of ice time yesterday. 2nd most on the team. I expect his TOI to reach 25 min by the middle of the season. Possession numbers are ridiculous.

Celebrini and Michkov would need to be at PPG to have a chance.
Over the course of 82 games we're probably going to see a lot of clips of him getting worked over. It's a brutal league for young d-men and even worse for small ones.
 

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“Lap the field” lmao. Biased much? I don’t think any rookie ever has done anything close to what you could call “lapping the field” except maybe Gretzky. It certainly won’t be Stankoven, whose upside is likely somewhere between Brendan Gallagher and Alex DeBrincat.
Ovechkin and Crosby did, but the same season due to the lockout. If Stankoven gets 106 points, he might be well ahead of anyone else.
 
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cneely

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Selanne had 132 points as a rookie with Lindros having 76, except Joe Juneau was between them with 102. There just seems to always be the rule of two with rookies. A talent comes in, but there is always someone close to them skill wise for anyone to "lap the field".
I remember a Juneau interview where he was advocating for people to vote for him for Calder. Seemed like a bit of sour grapes. Selanne had 76 goals. It wasn't close. Selanne received all 50 first place votes.

ScoringGoalie StatsPoint Shares
PlacePlayerAgeTmPosVotesVote%1st2nd3rd4th5thGAPTS+/-WLT/OGAASV%OPSDPSGPSPS
1Teemu Selänne22WINRW250100.0050007656132812.21.30.013.4
2Joé Juneau25BOSLW7530.00018213270102236.81.70.08.5
3Félix Potvin21TORG6325.20015180110251572.50.9100.00.09.39.3
4Eric Lindros19PHIC6124.4001710413475286.41.40.07.8
5Vladimir Malakhov24NYID10.40001143852143.63.90
 

Czechboy

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I say Michkov however it's rarely the guy I think it is. Bedard didn't win it. McDavid never won it. Oilers have never had a rookie of the year and think of all the 1OV's that have gone through there.

Still, I say Michkov!
 

Sniper99

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Stankoven's going to lap the field point wise if he remains healthy. The question will be he's in Dallas so voters won't see him and 2nd how badly will he get docked for being eligible after last year's run.
Lets cool it on the "lap the field" talk, win it sure, but hes not Gretzky or McDavid type of talent.
 

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