Proposal: Epic 4 team Trade WIN-ANA-NYR- OTT

[lindholmie]

Fowler could reasonably go for a 1st round pick considering the situation Anaheim has on their hands right now, but I guarantee you teams are going to lowball the Ducks into something like a 2nd and a 3rd/B-Level prospect.

hes a #3. at 24. lets say he is just a top 4 defensemen. you think a top 4 defensemen making only 4 mil will go for a 2nd and a 3rd? LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[Xspyrit]

OTT adds at least a good NHL player into the deal. They make out like bandits in this deal.

What?

Macarthur + 1st round pick + curtis lazar for Zuccarello ???


A top-6 forward, a 1st round pick, a young 21 y/o top-9 forward (1st round pick not long ago)

Zuccarello is good but this is a heavy price.

 

[WestleySnipez]

hes a #3. at 24. lets say he is just a top 4 defensemen. you think a top 4 defensemen making only 4 mil will go for a 2nd and a 3rd? LMAOOOOOOOOOOO

I do. Anaheim needs to shed cap space. The rest of the league knows their situation.
Fowler is at risk of being picked for the Expansion Draft. Lindholm and Vatanen are obviously better choices for protection, and the Ducks have to protect Bieksa due to his NMC. That's if they go the 7 fowards, 3 defense, 1 goalie.

If the Ducks go 8 players total; That's Getzlaf, Perry, Kesler, Cogliano, Vermette, Bieksa all with NMC. Then Lindholm and Vatanen again.

There is no way this time next year Fowler is a Duck. They can choose to get something for him now, or lose him for nothing come summer time.

Comparing his value to other defensemen of similar value. I gave Gudbranson as an example. Same age, similar plus/minus, similar minutes, also a Top 4 defenseman (On the Canucks he's a #3). He and a 5th fetched a former 1st Round Pick, a 2nd and a 4th. The Canucks were in a bind to get a younger defenseman to bolster their corps, otherwise their defense would look a lot worse this year. Benning also overpaid quite a bit, everyone on this board knows it.

Let's go back further -

Petry fetched a 2nd and a 5th (26 yrs old, Top 4 defenseman)

Wisniewski and a 3rd for Karlsson, a 2nd, and Bourque (An obvious cap dump and negative value). He was obviously older, but a much better offensive defenseman than Fowler prior to his injury.

It's not unreasonable to assume that a 2nd and B-Level Prospect is what Fowler will fetch.

 

[Ducks in a row]

I do. Anaheim needs to shed cap space. The rest of the league knows their situation.
Fowler is at risk of being picked for the Expansion Draft. Lindholm and Vatanen are obviously better choices for protection, and the Ducks have to protect Bieksa due to his NMC. That's if they go the 7 fowards, 3 defense, 1 goalie.

If the Ducks go 8 players total; That's Getzlaf, Perry, Kesler, Cogliano, Vermette, Bieksa all with NMC. Then Lindholm and Vatanen again.

There is no way this time next year Fowler is a Duck. They can choose to get something for him now, or lose him for nothing come summer time.

Comparing his value to other defensemen of similar value. I gave Gudbranson as an example. Same age, similar plus/minus, similar minutes, also a Top 4 defenseman (On the Canucks he's a #3). He and a 5th fetched a former 1st Round Pick, a 2nd and a 4th. The Canucks were in a bind to get a younger defenseman to bolster their corps, otherwise their defense would look a lot worse this year. Benning also overpaid quite a bit, everyone on this board knows it.

Let's go back further -

Petry fetched a 2nd and a 5th (26 yrs old, Top 4 defenseman)

Wisniewski and a 3rd for Karlsson, a 2nd, and Bourque (An obvious cap dump and negative value). He was obviously older, but a much better offensive defenseman than Fowler prior to his injury.

It's not unreasonable to assume that a 2nd and B-Level Prospect is what Fowler will fetch.

Fowler does have a risk to be picked in expansion draft but doubtful they will pick him with him being a UFA after a season.

Ducks will ask Bieksa to waive for expansion or buy him out over using a protection spot.

Vermette has a NMC this season then a modified NTC so no need to be protected.

Fowler is better overall then Gudbranson and Petry as well as Wisnewski was so they shouldn't be comparables.

 

[WestleySnipez]

Fowler does have a risk to be picked in expansion draft but doubtful they will pick him with him being a UFA after a season.

Ducks will ask Bieksa to waive for expansion or buy him out over using a protection spot.

Vermette has a NMC this season then a modified NTC so no need to be protected.

Fowler is better overall then Gudbranson and Petry as well as Wisnewski was so they shouldn't be comparables.

First, the draft takes place prior to July 1, 2017; so any NMC in effect this season are in effect come draft, Vermette still needs to be protected. Also, I can't see Bieksa waiving and a buy out would make their cap situation worse than it already is. They'd have to pay him almost 3 mil for 2 years instead of 4 mil for 1 more year.

You absolutely can compare those three trades with Fowler. They're all top 4 defensemen, and all had very similar value. There is no reason to assume Fowler's going to get more than they did.

 

[dracom]

First, the draft takes place prior to July 1, 2017; so any NMC in effect this season are in effect come draft, Vermette still needs to be protected. Also, I can't see Bieksa waiving and a buy out would make their cap situation worse than it already is. They'd have to pay him almost 3 mil for 2 years instead of 4 mil for 1 more year.

You absolutely can compare those three trades with Fowler. They're all top 4 defensemen, and all had very similar value. There is no reason to assume Fowler's going to get more than they did.

There's a buyout period before the expansion draft. Vermettes contract becomes a NTC before the ED.

Murray already tried to get Bieksa to waive his NMC, so it's clear he'll do what he can to not protect him, including a buyout.

 

[Ducks in a row]

first, the draft takes place prior to july 1, 2017; so any nmc in effect this season are in effect come draft, vermette still needs to be protected. Also, i can't see bieksa waiving and a buy out would make their cap situation worse than it already is. They'd have to pay him almost 3 mil for 2 years instead of 4 mil for 1 more year.

You absolutely can compare those three trades with fowler. They're all top 4 defensemen, and all had very similar value. There is no reason to assume fowler's going to get more than they did.

All top 4 defenseman are not worth the same and comparable. Fowler is worth more then any of them was because he is better.

 

[McSuper]

Fowler for a 1st, Lazar? Yeah, no.



No, he can't. Fowler is so underrated it's not even funny.



Which means nothing.

This . Can we please get 1st OA value for Yakupov if Lazar is worth his draft position value

 

[WestleySnipez]

All top 4 defenseman are not worth the same and comparable. Fowler is worth more then any of them was because he is better.

Cool, I didn't know that was worked into Vermette's contract, good to know.

You keep saying Fowler is better, but I don't agree with that. I'd argue Wisniewski had more value than Fowler does when he was moved at trade deadline 2015. Already I touched on the fact he was older (which in some cases can be seen as an advantage, especially since he was traded to aid in Anaheim's playoff run), he had more points in less games played. I can't bring up his corsi for that time in comparison to Fowler's last year, but I guarantee his was higher.

Can you provide me with any trades for a #3 or Top 4 defenseman in the last two years that you would compare to that of Fowler? You've kept saying that the examples I've provided aren't accurate, but you've provided none yourself.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

First, the draft takes place prior to July 1, 2017; so any NMC in effect this season are in effect come draft, Vermette still needs to be protected. Also, I can't see Bieksa waiving and a buy out would make their cap situation worse than it already is. They'd have to pay him almost 3 mil for 2 years instead of 4 mil for 1 more year.

You absolutely can compare those three trades with Fowler. They're all top 4 defensemen, and all had very similar value. There is no reason to assume Fowler's going to get more than they did.

Bieksa pushed for a NMC because he doesn't want to move his family around. If presented with two choices

A) Waive his NMC for expansion, a complete formality because he's obviously not going to be picked.

or

B) Get bought out, become a free agent.

Which of those actually suits the purpose of Bieksa demanding a NMC, the one where he hits the open market or the one that keeps him and his family in Anaheim?

If it takes further incentive Murray could agree honor the NMC post expansion and even offer a cheaper one year extension if necessary.

Either way, the Ducks are not going to let Bieksa take up a protection slot over better, younger, cheaper defensemen when the worst case scenario is buying out the final year of his deal.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Cool, I didn't know that was worked into Vermette's contract, good to know.

You keep saying Fowler is better, but I don't agree with that. I'd argue Wisniewski had more value than Fowler does when he was moved at trade deadline 2015. Already I touched on the fact he was older (which in some cases can be seen as an advantage, especially since he was traded to aid in Anaheim's playoff run), he had more points in less games played. I can't bring up his corsi for that time in comparison to Fowler's last year, but I guarantee his was higher.

Can you provide me with any trades for a #3 or Top 4 defenseman in the last two years that you would compare to that of Fowler? You've kept saying that the examples I've provided aren't accurate, but you've provided none yourself.

Fowler is better only someone who uses warrior charts to judge players would think otherwise good thing they are not all that matters actually watching a player is important and teams know this that is why they have scouts. Wisniewski being older and being hurt at the time we trade for him is not worth close to what Fowler is.

 

[WestleySnipez]

Fowler is better only someone who uses warrior charts to judge players would think otherwise good thing they are not all that matters actually watching a player is important and teams know this that is why they have scouts. Wisniewski being older and being hurt at the time we trade for him is not worth close to what Fowler is.

You keep repeating yourself. I've asked for you to provide me an example of a trade you considered being equivalent value to what you expect to get for Fowler, but you completely ignored that.

Again, I've provided 3 different transactions as evidence to support what I've been saying Fowler is valued at for other NHL teams. It doesn't matter what Anaheim thinks he's worth if they are trying to sell him off, it matters what others are willing to pay for him. Basic supply and demand.

Other teams are well aware of Anaheim's situation, they are well aware what a player like Fowler is worth, and they know they can take advantage of this situation. Fowler is worth less than normal market value because of this.

 

[JetsFan815]

Winnipeg gets boned in this trade

 

[Ducks in a row]

You keep repeating yourself. I've asked for you to provide me an example of a trade you considered being equivalent value to what you expect to get for Fowler, but you completely ignored that.

Again, I've provided 3 different transactions as evidence to support what I've been saying Fowler is valued at for other NHL teams. It doesn't matter what Anaheim thinks he's worth if they are trying to sell him off, it matters what others are willing to pay for him. Basic supply and demand.

Other teams are well aware of Anaheim's situation, they are well aware what a player like Fowler is worth, and they know they can take advantage of this situation. Fowler is worth less than normal market value because of this.

OK Tatar or Spooner are possibilities.

Fowler is a good young experienced defenseman better then the ones you listed and should be traded for more. Yes we have some financial problems but teams will not just low ball us especially if multiple teams are interested in Fowler of which should be the case.

 

[WestleySnipez]

OK Tatar or Spooner are possibilities.

Fowler is a good young experienced defenseman better then the ones you listed and should be traded for more. Yes we have some financial problems but teams will not just low ball us especially if multiple teams are interested in Fowler of which should be the case.

I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood. I asked for trade examples, trades that have happened recently involving a defenseman similar to Fowler in value that can show Anaheim can get more out of him.

As for the mentioning of Tomas Tatar, a straight 1 for 1 trade would not help the situation in Anaheim all the much. It would clear 1.25 mil in cap space, but still not enough space to sign both Lindholm and Rakell.

With Spooner, I don't know how dire the need is for defenseman in Boston, I'd imagine they'd want to hang on to Spooner and trade more of their veterans for younger guys though. It'd be better if someone more familiar with Boston's needs spoke on this.

Let's use this as an example:

You're looking for a car, and your friend has a car on a lot he owns. He has to get the car off of the lot by the end of the month cause he has another, better car on the way. So he says, "Hey, I need to get this car gone, I'm asking $2000 for it."

But you know he has to get it gone by the end of the month, and he drops the price by $100. Every few days, he gets more desperate to get rid of it and drops the price more. If he doesn't sell it by the end of the month, your buddy will have to give it to the wrecking yard cause he has no where else to put it. So you wait until the last day, when the price is lowest, and give him the $500 he's now asking for the car.

This is what is happening with Anaheim. This is what teams are doing with Murray, they know how to play the game. You wouldn't pay $1000 for a TV if you know that tomorrow it's going on sale.

The first team that offers Murray a deal he's desperate enough to take wins. It won't be a Tatar or a Spooner, it's going to be less than that. A 1st if the Ducks are lucky or someone is stupid, but it'll probably be a 2nd+B Level Prospect based on the price history of top 4 defenseman.

 

[Ducks in a row]

I'm sorry, I think you misunderstood. I asked for trade examples, trades that have happened recently involving a defenseman similar to Fowler in value that can show Anaheim can get more out of him.

As for the mentioning of Tomas Tatar, a straight 1 for 1 trade would not help the situation in Anaheim all the much. It would clear 1.25 mil in cap space, but still not enough space to sign both Lindholm and Rakell.

With Spooner, I don't know how dire the need is for defenseman in Boston, I'd imagine they'd want to hang on to Spooner and trade more of their veterans for younger guys though. It'd be better if someone more familiar with Boston's needs spoke on this.

Let's use this as an example:

You're looking for a car, and your friend has a car on a lot he owns. He has to get the car off of the lot by the end of the month cause he has another, better car on the way. So he says, "Hey, I need to get this car gone, I'm asking $2000 for it."

But you know he has to get it gone by the end of the month, and he drops the price by $100. Every few days, he gets more desperate to get rid of it and drops the price more. If he doesn't sell it by the end of the month, your buddy will have to give it to the wrecking yard cause he has no where else to put it. So you wait until the last day, when the price is lowest, and give him the $500 he's now asking for the car.

This is what is happening with Anaheim. This is what teams are doing with Murray, they know how to play the game. You wouldn't pay $1000 for a TV if you know that tomorrow it's going on sale.

The first team that offers Murray a deal he's desperate enough to take wins. It won't be a Tatar or a Spooner, it's going to be less than that. A 1st if the Ducks are lucky or someone is stupid, but it'll probably be a 2nd+B Level Prospect based on the price history of top 4 defenseman.

The problem is how many teams trade away someone as young but still experienced and as good as Fowler? Not a lot of teams do so making it hard to know how much a team will pay. Fowler is the best one you listed and is younger and healthier then another and more experienced then the others you listed in here.

Your saying Ducks are screwed and will get screwed over by a team how about no. Canucks got a 1st and Bonino with Sbisa who they wanted and only Ducks and Blackhawks Kesler would accept a trade to and Blackhawks couldn't afford his cap so it was a 1 team trade option. Teams don't look to totally screw over another team they don't want to ruin possible trade relations in the future. A 2nd and a prospect like that is terrible just terrible even trade deadline trades for good defenseman get better.

 

[orcatown]

Kudos to the originator of this thread.

Good amount of thought (and lot more than usual) went into the trade. Do see why Ducks might not be happy and that may be the part that doesn't totally work. But they are over a barrel with Fowler. However, rest of the teams are getting very decent returns.

Trouba may be the best part of the deal.

 

[Ola]

Also Fowler is underrated because of people who don't watch him play much and just looks at those hero charts that says Schultz > Fowler. It takes actually watching a player to be able to get the full picture and teams understand this that is why they have scouts.

Not to get into a Fowler debate, but this is not correct.

I think there are two camps, one that likes Fowler with Anaheim fans and people that does NOT watch him play. High pick, top pairing role, good stats. Wow, or?

And then there are people -- non-Ana fans -- watching him play, who see a good amount of flaws to in his game. Thinking, this guy is a top pairing D, top 4 maybe, not 3rd pairing. He does give away a lot defensively when he is on the ice. Do you really want him on a contender? Those flaws he have is really going to be exposed when you go deeper in the POs...

Like in the end this gives you kind of a digital discussion, people either believing in him or not. Just for the record, if I was the GM of Anaheim, would I trade Fowler for a 1st and Lazar? Of course not. No matter if I believe in him or not, getting a 1st and Lazar of course does not give me anyone to believe in "more" than in Fowler. If I were a GM of another team, I would however have to have a pretty big hole on the blueline before I anted up for Fowler to be honest.

 

[Ola]

Definitely likes the OP's creativity though! Satisfying Ana is probably the biggest problem though.

 

[Exit Dose]

Oh look, a Rangers fan telling us about Cam Fowler. Funny how that's always the case. I wonder why that is.

 

[gretskidoo]

What?

Macarthur + 1st round pick + curtis lazar for Zuccarello ???


A top-6 forward, a 1st round pick, a young 21 y/o top-9 forward (1st round pick not long ago)

Zuccarello is good but this is a heavy price.

"top 9" is a very cute way of saying bottom 6.

Detroit has some top 12 forwards and top 6 defenseman to offer them for Fowler. You interested, Anaheim?

 

[TGWL]

"top 9" is a very cute way of saying bottom 6.

Detroit has some top 12 forwards and top 6 defenseman to offer them for Fowler. You interested, Anaheim?

On top of the top 6 LTIR, which may never play again, signed until 19-20.

 

[WestleySnipez]

The problem is how many teams trade away someone as young but still experienced and as good as Fowler? Not a lot of teams do so making it hard to know how much a team will pay. Fowler is the best one you listed and is younger and healthier then another and more experienced then the others you listed in here.

Your saying Ducks are screwed and will get screwed over by a team how about no. Canucks got a 1st and Bonino with Sbisa who they wanted and only Ducks and Blackhawks Kesler would accept a trade to and Blackhawks couldn't afford his cap so it was a 1 team trade option. Teams don't look to totally screw over another team they don't want to ruin possible trade relations in the future. A 2nd and a prospect like that is terrible just terrible even trade deadline trades for good defenseman get better.

The problem is you're treating Fowler like he's a top pairing defenseman, when he's clearly not. He has years of experience in the league, and while that is a good thing, he's had his fair share of mistakes. Like Ola said; you can see good coming out of him, but he has flaws that are going to be exposed in a deep playoff run, especially if he has an injury or two nagging him in that time.

Kesler was a 1b/2nd line center who had come off his worst season, I remember people were saying it would be a 1st+Theodore+ to get Kesler, and a lot of people were surprised at how little the Canucks got. Realistically, the Canucks got McCann, Bonino, and Sbisa - only one of which who is still on the team 2 years later. The others were packaged as part of other deals.

In fact, going back I see proposals of Kesler for Vatanen, Etem (Who at the time had better value than now), Ottawa's 1st and Anaheim's 1st. A lot of Canucks fans were angry at the value they got for Kesler, who on most teams could have been a Number 1 center.

You don't look to screw over the other team - You look to get the best possible deal for your team. Why would you pay $1000 when you can pay $500 tomorrow. If Anaheim is unwilling to except what other teams are willing to pay, then that's their prerogative. But I'd wager than Murray is desperate enough to sign Lindholm and Rakell, and moving a contract like Fowler's for a pick+prospect clears up all that space.

Not many teams can take on a 4mil contract that goes for the next two seasons, there are a lot less teams in that running then you think. Edmonton, New Jersey, Florida, and Carolina are all potential teams that have enough cap space at the moment, with Edmonton being the only one that may be strapped for cash with RFA signings for McDavid and Draisaitl coming up in the time Fowler will want a new contract.

Detroit and Boston, the two teams you listed as potential trade partners when you mentioned Tatar and Spooner, both will be strapped for cap space in the coming years.

Detroit is already at the ceiling, and would be looking to shed cap, rather than increase it like a Tatar for Fowler trade would do, so they're not a good trade partner for Anaheim.

Boston has contracts for Pastrnak, Spooner, and Morrow expiring next season that they'll need cap space for. A deal of Spooner for Fowler straight up would make it difficult to give Pastrnak and Morrow bridge contracts given the space they'd have remaining.

The teams I listed; New Jersey, Florida, and Carolina are all in different stages Florida is trying to make the playoffs, New Jersey is in a bit of a retool, and Carolina is trying to rebuild. Caroling probably doesn't want Fowler, young as he is, if it means they have to give up more of the future. But Florida and New Jersey may want Fowler, so a trade could happen with either of them. Trading away a pick+prospect to Anaheim for a top 4 defenseman would make their teams better without giving away a roster player.

There are a few other teams I haven't mentioned who would be interested in Fowler and have the space currently, but they have their own players in need of signing, or have contracts coming up next year that would be thrown off by picking up a contract like Fowler's.

So you see how the 10 teams that would be interested in Fowler have dwindled down to 2 or 3, causing less bidding between the two and further driving down the price of any would be trades.

 

[dracom]

The problem is you're treating Fowler like he's a top pairing defenseman, when he's clearly not. He has years of experience in the league, and while that is a good thing, he's had his fair share of mistakes. Like Ola said; you can see good coming out of him, but he has flaws that are going to be exposed in a deep playoff run, especially if he has an injury or two nagging him in that time.

Kesler was a 1b/2nd line center who had come off his worst season, I remember people were saying it would be a 1st+Theodore+ to get Kesler, and a lot of people were surprised at how little the Canucks got. Realistically, the Canucks got McCann, Bonino, and Sbisa - only one of which who is still on the team 2 years later. The others were packaged as part of other deals.

In fact, going back I see proposals of Kesler for Vatanen, Etem (Who at the time had better value than now), Ottawa's 1st and Anaheim's 1st. A lot of Canucks fans were angry at the value they got for Kesler, who on most teams could have been a Number 1 center.

You don't look to screw over the other team - You look to get the best possible deal for your team. Why would you pay $1000 when you can pay $500 tomorrow. If Anaheim is unwilling to except what other teams are willing to pay, then that's their prerogative. But I'd wager than Murray is desperate enough to sign Lindholm and Rakell, and moving a contract like Fowler's for a pick+prospect clears up all that space.

Not many teams can take on a 4mil contract that goes for the next two seasons, there are a lot less teams in that running then you think. Edmonton, New Jersey, Florida, and Carolina are all potential teams that have enough cap space at the moment, with Edmonton being the only one that may be strapped for cash with RFA signings for McDavid and Draisaitl coming up in the time Fowler will want a new contract.

Detroit and Boston, the two teams you listed as potential trade partners when you mentioned Tatar and Spooner, both will be strapped for cap space in the coming years.

Detroit is already at the ceiling, and would be looking to shed cap, rather than increase it like a Tatar for Fowler trade would do, so they're not a good trade partner for Anaheim.

Boston has contracts for Pastrnak, Spooner, and Morrow expiring next season that they'll need cap space for. A deal of Spooner for Fowler straight up would make it difficult to give Pastrnak and Morrow bridge contracts given the space they'd have remaining.

The teams I listed; New Jersey, Florida, and Carolina are all in different stages Florida is trying to make the playoffs, New Jersey is in a bit of a retool, and Carolina is trying to rebuild. Caroling probably doesn't want Fowler, young as he is, if it means they have to give up more of the future. But Florida and New Jersey may want Fowler, so a trade could happen with either of them. Trading away a pick+prospect to Anaheim for a top 4 defenseman would make their teams better without giving away a roster player.

There are a few other teams I haven't mentioned who would be interested in Fowler and have the space currently, but they have their own players in need of signing, or have contracts coming up next year that would be thrown off by picking up a contract like Fowler's.

So you see how the 10 teams that would be interested in Fowler have dwindled down to 2 or 3, causing less bidding between the two and further driving down the price of any would be trades.

It's cool you're comparing the Kes trade to Fowler. Seeing as their situation is no where close to being the same; different stages in their careers, different positions, and one asked for a trade to only 2 teams in the league. They are not comparable situations at all.

Fowler is a #2 defensemen on a playoff team, you are aware of that right? We went to the WCF game 7 against the Hawks two seasons ago with Fowler leading the defense. Fowler is easily one of the best players we have during the playoffs.

I agree you don't go looking to screw over other teams, which far too many people on here try to do, but that also doesn't mean the Ducks are going to take an offer they deem incredibly low. If Murray was that desperate, it would have happened already. My guess is other teams are trying to extremely low ball him, and Murray isn't taking it.

As for teams that are probably most likely looking at Fowler; Detroit has players going on LTIR I believe so I think they can fit Fowler under the cap (a DWR would know the situation better though).

Boston could use a good young defensemen to take over when Chara retires, and they have almost 6 mil in cap space right now with a few contracts ending next season. If we get Pastrnak or Spooner in return, we could sign them to a bridge deal until other contracts of ours are up.

NJ could use a good LHD defensemen to replace the minutes lost by Larsson, Florida is pretty set on defense I believe so I don't see a fit there, same goes with Carolina actually.

With that said, I believe there are still teams out there that could use a guy like Fowler and could afford him. Dallas, Winnipeg (separate deal if they trade Trouba), Habs, Ottawa, and the Blue Jackets are teams that could have a spot for Fowler.

It's not ideal, but there are still enough teams that could be looking at Fowler which should keep Murray from caving in and giving up Fowler for spare parts just for cap space.

 

[CDN24]

What?

Macarthur + 1st round pick + curtis lazar for Zuccarello ???


A top-6 forward, a 1st round pick, a young 21 y/o top-9 forward (1st round pick not long ago)

Zuccarello is good but this is a heavy price.

Actually its a 1st rd pick, + Lazar for Zuccarello and + about 19 millon $ saved