Proposal: EP40 for Drai. Who says no!?

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Assuming both players are signing extensions, this is a case where you probably make a good argument that from a fantasy perspective Draisatl has the better value and/or would be the better player, but right now surprisingly somehow Vancouver is hot while Edmonton is in the tank. So fantasy aside in the real world Vancouver wouldn't want to mess with the room, while if in Edmonton they decide they need a big shakeup you're not getting better value than Pettersson for Draisalt.
 

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Bolded is enough proof that’s needed to say otherwise.

He’s not a bad player, but he’s a completely different player when everyone on the ice is fixated on McDavid and he gets more open ice
That 51 points in 51 games number needs some context. 37 of those games were in McDavid's rookie year when Draisaitl was in his first full season as an NHL regular. In the 14 games since then he has 21 points.

Even if you factor in playing with McDavid, there is no evidence that EP40 would mesh nearly as well. Draisaitl basically reinvented his game to play with McDavid. He went from a pass first center whose tendency was always to slow down the play and play a more static game to a shooter who is perfectly fine playing off the rush and up tempo with McDavid.

The Oilers do not make this trade unless Draisaitl tells them explicitly that he is not going to resign.
 
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Malkin is far more proven, he performs at a completely different level without Crosby. Malkin can dictate play at a level Draisaitl will never get to
Dumbest statement of the thread.

Malkin " used to" dictate play like Draisaitl does.

The fact you still follow the narrative that Leon isn't a dominant force without McDavid is pure comedy.
 

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Canucks don't consider this. Elite PPG 2 way C ? Or a PP pigeon that refuses to back check and play D and just throws tantrums when his team is losing. Easy choice.

Dumbest statement of the thread.

Malkin " used to" dictate play like Draisaitl does.

The fact you still follow the narrative that Leon isn't a dominant force without McDavid is pure comedy.
A dominant force on the PP with McDavid on the ice.
 

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Canucks don't consider this. Elite PPG 2 way C ? Or a PP pigeon that refuses to back check and play D and just throws tantrums when his team is losing. Easy choice.


A dominant force on the PP with McDavid on the ice.
So dominant that he us. +2 on a team with a historical good start.

Draisaitl is so bad that he is only a -4 on a historical bad start.

EP - what a dominant 2 way force 😄

How ?😅😄

Some Canuck fans will do and say anything to prop up thier guys.

Patterson would be run out of town in Edmonton within a month with our goaltending.
 
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Assuming both players are signing extensions, this is a case where you probably make a good argument that from a fantasy perspective Draisatl has the better value and/or would be the better player, but right now surprisingly somehow Vancouver is hot while Edmonton is in the tank. So fantasy aside in the real world Vancouver wouldn't want to mess with the room, while if in Edmonton they decide they need a big shakeup you're not getting better value than Pettersson for Draisalt.
I think Petey has shown a willingness to play a much more complete game than Drai, who has shown the ability to be a better point producer. Given the 3 year age difference, if the term was the max 8 years, go Petey.

If the term is say 5/6 years, then really more your cup of tea. If you prefer a better 200 foot game or the higher production. But, they probably in the end, net for the same goal differential.
 

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Both teams likely say no because either player doesn't perform as well on the new team than they do on the current one

But don't let that detract y'all from the p ***ing contest between the 2 fanbases:popcorn:
 

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So dominant that he us. +2 on a team with a historical good start.

Draisaitl is so bad that he is only a -4 on a historical bad start.

EP - what a dominant 2 way force 😄

How ?😅😄

Some Canuck fans will do and say anything to prop up thier guys.

Patterson would be run out of town in Edmonton within a month with our goaltending.
Buddy I'm a Leafs fan, I couldn't give less of a f*** about EP lol.
 

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EP40 the better 2 way forward for Drai the better scorer.

Both need new contracts. Both C.

Who says no?
Vancouver 😅

The recency bias here is hilarious.

You take the guy who has paced 110 points for 5 years straight.

Their contract situation also is not the same
Recency bias 😅 so you probably take Sedins, they won awards 10 years ago and are consistent
 

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This thread will be one of those threads where one half will laugh about it in 2 years and the other half will do anything to prevent others from knowing that they had a certain opinion.

One player has averaged ~110 points over the last 5 seasons, is a top 3 goal scorer in the league, having scored 50+ goals thrice, while currently being ranked #3 all time in playoff points, behind Gretzky and Lemieux.

While the other player didn't just not beat any of the first player's seasonal records so far, but also isn't on pace to beat him this year, where player 1 did have a significant worse start on a significant worse team and player 2 the best start of his career.

Edmonton says no, as long as Draisaitl wants to sign.
 

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EP40 the better 2 way forward for Drai the better scorer.

Both need new contracts. Both C.

Who says no?

Edmonton. by a lot.

Bolded is enough proof that’s needed to say otherwise.

He’s not a bad player, but he’s a completely different player when everyone on the ice is fixated on McDavid and he gets more open ice

He's a PPG player WITHOUT McDavid. I don't know that this makes the point you think.
 
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Pettersson >>>>>>> Draisaitl

Petterson doesn’t need McDavid to perform amd make players around him better.


Draisaitl >>>>>>> Pettersson

Draisaitl doesn’t need Hughes to perform amd make players around him better.



Are you sure EP is making his team better? The Canucks have made the playoffs once in the past 8 years lol
 
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while currently being ranked #3 all time in playoff points, behind Gretzky and Lemieux.

Completely and laughably false. The stat you’re looking for is PPG, not points, and due to Drai’s small sample size it’s meaningless to anybody who actually understands how statistics work.
 
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how about this question instead, hypothetically... both EP and LD are UFAs this offseason, who signs for more money, no home town discounts/deals/etc.?????

how about this question instead, hypothetically... both EP and LD are UFAs this offseason, who signs for more money, no home town discounts/deals/etc.?????
by the way, I say Draisaitl would get. more on the open market.
 

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Completely and laughably false. The stat you’re looking for is PPG, not points, and due to Drai’s small sample size it’s meaningless to anybody who actually understands how statistics work.
meaningless? 77 points in 49 career playoff games, that's a n incredible stat, and 49 games isn't that small of a sample size.
 
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