Proposal: EP40 for Drai. Who says no!?

[Stealth1616]

Pettersson rather easily.

Remove McDavid and Draisaitl loses a lot of his offensive ability

Remove Draisaitl and so does McDavid.

Remove Hughes/Miller so does EP.

Now do this for every team in the league.

Using your hate on for the Oilers and applying a situation that would impact every team league wide is just low IQ stuff

 

[theVladiator]

Can it be more than one voice? If so, Tocchet and Demko.

 

[Ace of Hades]

Van says no.

 

[waitin425]

Vancouver says no. Drai has had a great career. But....he's 28. He's peaked. He will remain good. But his best is now behind. I feel EP is just reaching his peak.

Man....28......if there is one thing Edmonton proves....winning Stanley cups is hard and requires more than just two absolute superstars. Sad to think Drais best years didn't produce a cup. Hopefully he gets one. Same with McDavid.

 

[3074326]

The chatter about Draisaitl is basically the same as it was with Malkin. You don't score as much as Draisaitl does on accident. Great players turn other great players into greater players. That's what's going on there. Not many can play at that level.

Regardless, Vancouver would have no reason to do this.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

NARRATOR: "But then the Oilers discovered that not everyone valued Draisatl nearly as high as they did, and were further surprised to find that many teams did not see him as a net positive value at all."

 

[Three On Zero]

The chatter about Draisaitl is basically the same as it was with Malkin. You don't score as much as Draisaitl does on accident. Great players turn other great players into greater players. That's what's going on there. Not many can play at that level.

Regardless, Vancouver would have no reason to do this.

Malkin is far more proven, he performs at a completely different level without Crosby. Malkin can dictate play at a level Draisaitl will never get to

 

[Bouboumaster]

Edmonton says no

 

[theVladiator]

The chatter about Draisaitl is basically the same as it was with Malkin. You don't score as much as Draisaitl does on accident. Great players turn other great players into greater players. That's what's going on there. Not many can play at that level.

Regardless, Vancouver would have no reason to do this.

Interesting parallel. However, I think the difference is that, outside PP, Malkin and Crosby mostly played on different lines during their careers. My impression is that McDavid and Draisaitl play much more together. Although, I think Draisaitl has done extremely well when McDavid was out, and also during those stretches when they played apart.

 

[Three On Zero]

NARRATOR: "But then the Oilers discovered that not everyone valued Draisatl nearly as high as they did, and were further surprised to find that many teams did not see him as a positive value at all."

Pettersson to Draisaitl is at best a lateral move

 

[Galactico]

You'd think you'd realize by now that there's a lot more to it than just points.

Put Draisaitl in a more structured system where he's actually expected to play defense and with no McDavid to play with; is he still putting up 110+ points?

Only Oilers fans think that Draisaitl would put up the same amount of points playing with McDavid than playing with JG Pageau.

 

[93gilmour93]

EP40 the better 2 way forward for Drai the better scorer.

Both need new contracts. Both C.

Who says no?

 

[Legend123]

Van certainly says no

 

[BRobMint]

EP40 the better 2 way forward for Drai the better scorer.

Both need new contracts. Both C.

Who says no?

The Canucks. EP40 is younger and plays better on the defensive side of the puck

 

[Ledge And Dairy]

Edmonton.

Draisaitl has another year after this one. Pettersson doesn't. The way things are going, not a chance in hell is Pettersson re-upping here.

I was going to say something like this. Vancouver declines because they have more control over EP with him being an RFA so they are more likely to keep him long term.

Edmonton declines because it's the same problem either way

 

[Three On Zero]

Remove Draisaitl and so does McDavid.

Remove Hughes/Miller so does EP.

Now do this for every team in the league.

Using your hate on for the Oilers and applying a situation that would impact every team league wide is just low IQ stuff

Since when does reality on a players value have anything to do with liking/disliking a team? When it’s the consensus answer, it must not be hatred

 

[KevinRedkey]

Remove McDavid and Draisaitl loses a lot of his offensive ability

In the 475 minutes and 34 seconds he spent away from McDavid at even-strength last year, he accumulated 33 points. That means his production at even-strength without McDavid was 1 point per 14 minutes and 25 seconds.

In the 447 minutes and 15 seconds he spent with McDavid at even-strength last year, he accumulated 31 points. That means his production at even-strength with McDavid that exact same 14 minutes and 25 seconds.

He's also had 51 points in 51 games with McDavid being entirely out of the lineup throughout his career. Picking EP is one thing, but Draisaitl being a product of McDavid is an old narrative that has been disproven many times before.

 

[Three On Zero]

In the 475 minutes and 34 seconds he spent away from McDavid at even-strength last year, he accumulated 33 points. That means his production at even-strength without McDavid was 1 point per 14 minutes and 25 seconds.

In the 447 minutes and 15 seconds he spent with McDavid at even-strength last year, he accumulated 31 points. That means his production at even-strength with McDavid that exact same 14 minutes and 25 seconds.

He's also had 51 points in 51 games with McDavid being entirely out of the lineup throughout his career. Picking EP is one thing, but Draisaitl being a product of McDavid is an old narrative that has been disproven many times before.

Bolded is enough proof that’s needed to say otherwise.

He’s not a bad player, but he’s a completely different player when everyone on the ice is fixated on McDavid and he gets more open ice

 

[Unbiased Fan]

We’ll he ain’t sure as fk resigning in Edmonton Lol

Never said Edmonton would do the deal just saying if Pete said nah I’m not resigning big dawg then Vancouver would probably be happy with the german Jesus as a return

 

[featherhawk]

I take EP over Drai

 

[KevinRedkey]

Bolded is enough proof that’s needed to say otherwise.

He’s not a bad player, but he’s a completely different player when everyone on the ice is fixated on McDavid and he gets more open ice

Most of those 51 games was in McDavid's Rookie year when Draisaitl had 51 points in 72 games. And somehow a point per game is bad now? Lol

He's literally been at around the same production with or without McDavid since he broke out. How you think that's a knock is beyond me.

 

[Three On Zero]

Most of those 51 games was in McDavid's Rookie year when Draisaitl had 51 points in 72 games. And somehow a point per game is bad now? Lol

He's literally been at around the same production with or without McDavid since he broke out. How you think that's a knock is beyond me.

With the trending of how scoring has gone, being on a 82 point pace is not good (not that he’s a 82p player).

Again, he’s not a bad player but his trophy case would be a lot smaller without McDavid constantly by his side.

You wouldn’t be trading for the same Draisaitl that Edmonton currently has. When trading for a player like that, you need to evaluate what he is because of his situation VS. What he is likely to be for you away from that situation

 

[AlbOilFAN]

Has Petterson ever won hart trophy? He needs to win a one before you can compare him to Leon.

 

[egelband]

Miller would end up Sprewell’ing Draisaitl.

 

[Three On Zero]

Has Petterson ever won hart trophy? He needs to win a one before you can compare him to Leon.

False, he just needs a generational player attached to him