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he got crosschecked in the back side rib in game 1 of the reg season and didn't look the same since.
Its def a back injury.
He also sat out in preseason and training camp.
he got crosschecked in the back side rib in game 1 of the reg season and didn't look the same since.
Its def a back injury.
I feel it is a true statement.Seems like “we lost the structure” is the thing PR is telling everyone to say
Now that it's come out that Marner declined multiple contract extension offers from Treliving and had no intention of re-signing here, it's difficult to not resent him as a fan for refusing to waive his no trade clause at the trade deadline. We could have had Rantanen signed to an 8 year extension for a 12 million AAV but Marner was too selfish to let that happen and now we'll have nothing to show for it after he walks.
I'm going to guess due to this and his faceoff numbers that it's not the wrist, then.
So it's looking like a back or a shoulder issue.
Getting a 3rd or a 4th for the rights is basically nothing. Who cares at this point. It's done, he gave the Leafs 9 years of service, time to move on.i hope for the leafs sake they trade marners rights for something before free agency starts, letting walk for nothing would be a huge kick in the face
He doesn't even have to play C.100%. I think you give him a fair deal. In a few years if things don't improve and a rebuild is inevitable, the Leafs could get a pretty good return for a well respected vet.
and whats the point... just to negotiate earlier? you can't get 8 years from anyone other than Toronto.Getting a 3rd or a 4th for the rights is basically nothing. Who cares at this point. It's done, he gave the Leafs 9 years of service, time to move on.
They are, but a bad wrist would affect it more, I think. It might also rule out the shoulder, as well.I’m no NHL centerman but aren’t the back and shoulders also used in taking a faceoff?
Yes we could’ve had Rantaneen but do we know if he would’ve signed with us past the playoffs? Isn’t that why the canes traded him? He didn’t want to sign there because that’s not where he wanted to play.Now that it's come out that Marner declined multiple contract extension offers from Treliving and had no intention of re-signing here, it's difficult to not resent him as a fan for refusing to waive his no trade clause at the trade deadline. We could have had Rantanen signed to an 8 year extension for a 12 million AAV but Marner was too selfish to let that happen and now we'll have nothing to show for it after he walks.
Paul and Darren told him regardless: Do not say you want to be back.so he's gone.
quite frankly if you knew that, wish he'd accept the trade to Carolina. i swear to high heaven i loathe NMC/NTCs
Yes we could’ve had Rantaneen but do we know if he would’ve signed with us past the playoffs? Isn’t that why the canes traded him? He didn’t want to sign there because that’s not where he wanted to play.
I don't know that he never intended to re-sign, he just had an idea of what he could get paid, just like last time, and they never got there. Then when they asked him to waive he might have seen the writing on the wall and the failure to launch in round 2 cemented things. I wonder if his wife wasn't extremely pregnant he maybe takes the Carolina trade?Now that it's come out that Marner declined multiple contract extension offers from Treliving and had no intention of re-signing here, it's difficult to not resent him as a fan for refusing to waive his no trade clause at the trade deadline. We could have had Rantanen signed to an 8 year extension for a 12 million AAV but Marner was too selfish to let that happen and now we'll have nothing to show for it after he walks.
They are, but a bad wrist would affect it more, I think. It might also rule out the shoulder, as well.
Also, the lack of surgery also makes it seem like a back.
yes, he said toronto dallas or avsYes we could’ve had Rantaneen but do we know if he would’ve signed with us past the playoffs? Isn’t that why the canes traded him? He didn’t want to sign there because that’s not where he wanted to play.
All speculation. but apparently he was interested in signing here.
I read it more as he was done with the fans, the media, the franchise, but didn't want to bail on his team. I get that...but shit, if he REALLY wanted to do everyone a solid without being resentful about it, he'd be playing the Leafs tonight with Rantanen on Matthews' flank.
If and when Marner leaves (most likely this summer), I don't see him ever being given a hero's welcome anywhere in Toronto EVER again. That really sucks because it's his hometown. Had he just accepted the damn trade, even if he and the Hurricanes knocked off the Leafs in the ECF, I'm pretty sure fans and everyone would let bygones be bygones within a season or two.
yes, he said toronto dallas or avs
It was reported from multiple sources that Rantanen was prepared to sign long term in Toronto if he got traded to the Leafs.Yes we could’ve had Rantaneen but do we know if he would’ve signed with us past the playoffs? Isn’t that why the canes traded him? He didn’t want to sign there because that’s not where he wanted to play.
well when Marner refused 8x13.5... yeah, you try and move him and not the guys you plays hard and says he isn't going anywhere in KniesI suppose if we needed Rantanen it could have been a Knies package as also reported. Doesn’t make you feel better but it didn’t have to just be Mitch. Probably not worth dwelling on.
completely agree with thisThis is on Dubas for giving these no move contracts. The player cannot be blamed for exercising his contractual right