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Recalled/Assigned: Emil Heineman recalled from Laval
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26Mats
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Hopefully he pulls a Struble and shows he's ready to stay.
Makes too much sense and would hurt the feelings of the unproductive veterans
I'm OK with that lol
He imo is ready to play physically. He is a bruising winger. I want to see how he adapts to the speed and how he is able to get his shot off. He has a great release.
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This guy is very intriguing. Very toolsy, hoping he has the IQ to match.
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I'd like to see Ylonen and Heineman flying on opposite wings.
Could be an interesting mix of wingers when RHP gets back:
Caufield - Slaf
Ylonen - Heineman
RHP - Anderson
Gally - Armia
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I disagree. I'm definitely all aboard the tank train, been for years, but carrying guys like Gallagher and Anderson, Dvorak and Armia ain't my idea of a rebuild. Especially sending them out in a shootout.
I'm ok with vets who actually have had success like Mohahan, the other ones can GTFO. I'd rather see Ylonen than them, and I don't even like Ylonen. At least there's potential.
If you're for tanking, isn't that good?
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Carrying Gallagher, Anderson, Dvorak, Armia et als. is no one’s idea of a rebuild however these players’ contracts were inherited by this management contingent. They are toxic assets that other teams either won’t want or who will require the Habs to cough up significant value to get rid of.
Now other than Anderson who could have supposedly been moved for a high pick but Hughes failed to pull the trigger, how are they supposed to get rid of the others that no one wants?
Second, you disagree with the deployment of certain players by the coach whereas the premise being tackled was about how management had embarked on a full rebuild.
Now, you have a point that the head coach’s handling of certain vets and especially their excessive use, is taking playing time away from those young players who are expected to be contributors by the end of this rebuild cycle.
MSL has a win at all costs approach that may be incompatible with a rebuild blueprint. Management can’t seem to rein him in and that’s a whole other story. How far can they go in turning the screws on him given that deployment is normally a coach’s prerogative? Not sure what the solution might be.
Pretty sure management is on board with MSL's approach, actually and, no, he's not playing useless vets unnecessarily at the cost of precious development for impact youngsters.
I personally believe that you deserve TOI and aren't handed minutes without deserving them in a good development setting.
I also believe that MSL gives opportunities to deserving youngsters and, then, if they run with it, they keep getting better TOI.
Ylonen was given 1st line opportunities in the past, for example, but hasn't been consistant enough to keep such a role.
Caufield - Suzuki - Slafkovsky
Ylonen - Monahan - Heineman
RHP - Evans - Anderson
Armia - Dvorak - Gallagher
Could be interesting.
Like two speedy wingers that can shoot with Monahan as the pivot.
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He had a very poor pre season......nobody had him making the team around here. I was a fan of the trade and believe that he can be a nice piece but my expectations are tempered as he has not shown that he can do much more than skate, shoot and hit. His hands and IQ are very much in doubt but I am not ruling out the possibility that he can improve.
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Can a player be put on LTIR for that? It could be a nice strategy for a couple of the vets.
His health is awfully concerning. He also doesn't back away from physical hockey.
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I think for the sake of morale, culture, and professionalism you have to have a win-at-all-costs approach. The only difference, and one which to MSL's credit he is doing correctly, is to not punish players for mistakes and falling short. Otherwise you can't expect high-level professional athletes to accept losing as a fact-of-life. Most of them will be seeking new contracts (Kovacevic, Monahan, Savard, Dvorak) in the next two years and they'll want to put on their best face no matter what. That's effort and drive you can't and shouldn't suppress.
There are a bunch of things that coaches are sort of forced to do:
- try to win
- emphasize defense
- respect veterans and give them ice time
- speak in crappy metaphors
The main issue with MSL is that pretty much everybody took a step back this year. A big part of the issue is not having Dach, but even without him the guys they have are better than the guys they had last year so it's concerning that Caufield and Anderson and most others aren't doing as well as we'd hoped.
On the other hand with the young D, the lack of options, and the unmovable vets the team is winning about as much as can be expected. Hoffman is having a much better year and it highlights the lack of high end play driving talent in Montreal. There just isn't anyone who can make space for the many, many players who can take advantage of space when it is there. It's a consequence of Bergevin picking up way, way too many of the same type of player, a type of player that is, correctly, not valued, so it's not like there is a path to trade them for the players the habs need.
It's going to take focused drafting, and the habs have not had success drafting big players or play drivers.
And it's going to take more than 3 years, possibly 6 or 7. Bergevin left a mess and I am not sold on this management's amateur scouting group.
I am just amazed at how ineffective so many veteran forwards have become.
29 games and Josh Anderson has scored zero goals on a goalie?
Dvorak has one goal in 18
Gallagher hasn't scored in well over 15 games
Caufield 3 goals since October
Why can't these guys score on occasion?
As great as Slaf is playing he has 2 goals in 29 games.
RHP 0 goals in the 13 games he has played.
Sadly Newhook was starting to come around.
Year after year you always hear two things- Habs are small and they have a hard time scoring.
Three things:
Habs small
Hard times coring
New record for games missed due to injury (Having Price on Robidas Island helps ensure minimum)
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The veterans you refer to are not effective for the type of game MSL is implementing - all of Dvorak, Gallagher, Anderson are north-south type players
Can’t emphasize enough how the loss of Dach has completely scrambled the lineup with too many players slotted out of position
