Embracing the Rebuild: Tank Nation, the Thread

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Moskau

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What would the Avalanche be looking for if they were hypothetically open to trading ROR? And do we have it?
Defense, someone to replace RoR on the roster and possibly someone to replace Stastny next season.
 

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Maybe something around Risto or Zads then? Take Ekblad ourselves and trade one of the good-looking D we drafted this year as a centerpiece?

i wanted risto and zads... that was my preferred draft path... and then it actually happened.... im super attached.
 

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i wanted risto and zads... that was my preferred draft path... and then it actually happened.... im super attached.
Their extra year of development (no matter how much Regier tried to **** it up) is worth quite a bit but I would still say that Ekblad is at least a tier or two above Risto and Zads. Zadorov's ceiling is possibly the highest out of the three but still.

I'm also not sure if Roy has much interest acquiring defensemen who have years to develop for a player like RoR. That's a terrible group of defensemen and if you take away their best defensive forward you'll have to replace him with someone capable now. The deal would likely have to revolve around Myers and that's only if he continues to progress this season.

In all likely hood though he wont be traded. He and Landeskog are going to be the teams two-way forwards that all cup winners have nowadays.
 

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Their extra year of development (no matter how much Regier tried to **** it up) is worth quite a bit but I would still say that Ekblad is at least a tier or two above Risto and Zads. Zadorov's ceiling is possibly the highest out of the three but still.

I'm also not sure if Roy has much interest acquiring defensemen who have years to develop for a player like RoR. That's a terrible group of defensemen and if you take away their best defensive forward you'll have to replace him with someone capable now. The deal would likely have to revolve around Myers and that's only if he continues to progress this season.

In all likely hood though he wont be traded. He and Landeskog are going to be the teams two-way forwards that all cup winners have nowadays.


Im not trading Myers for ROR.

Go through a list of the top 20 forwards in the league and look and see where they were drafted. do you see a pattern.

Buffalo drafts a forward if they have a top 3 pick.

they only conceivable way they draft Ekblad is if they trade one of the other Dmen for a clear cut top line forward---of which ROR is not.
 

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Im not trading Myers for ROR.

Go through a list of the top 20 forwards in the league and look and see where they were drafted. do you see a pattern.

Buffalo drafts a forward if they have a top 3 pick.

they only conceivable way they draft Ekblad is if they trade one of the other Dmen for a clear cut top line forward---of which ROR is not.

You wouldn't trade Myers for ROR? You must like losing.
 

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You wouldn't trade Myers for ROR? You must like losing.

I'm as big an Oreilly fan as you will find. And I probably wouldn't make that trade...

I would trade Pysyk+ for Oreilly in a millisecond though

Maybe if we drafted Ekblad and then traded Myers for Oreilly...
 

Jame

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Myers is quickly becoming overrated around these parts again. If ROR is available for Myers you take it and run.

I think the opposite is what has become "overrated"... Meaning the level to which the fan base has given up on Myers.

I have an "I told you so" ready for 2016. :sarcasm:
 

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Myers has looked very good this year. I'm not sure I understand how he's overrated if half the fan base dumps on him all the time.
 

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I think the opposite is what has become "overrated"... Meaning the level to which the fan base has given up on Myers.

I have an "I told you so" ready for 2016. :sarcasm:

I must say, Jame, I'm surprised you've supported Myers so much. I recall you knocking his hockey sense over the summer. Change of heart?
 

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Myers has actually been good this year, IMO. Not even "better than usual..." but good. Probably his best pro season.
 

gallagt01

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Myers has actually been good this year, IMO. Not even "better than usual..." but good. Probably his best pro season.

I agree. The numbers aren't there because this is a poor team, but Myers has looked good (and even more so under Nolan).
 

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I think the opposite is what has become "overrated"... Meaning the level to which the fan base has given up on Myers.

I have an "I told you so" ready for 2016. :sarcasm:

He's had a good 1/3rd of a season so far. I've been very impressed with his game this year. However i'm not so quick to jump back on the bandwagon as i've been burned before with Myers. He's still got that monster contract to live up to and he still looks tenative with the puck. I know at the very least with a guy like ROR I'm getting a defensive beast who'll anchor our second line while he scores 50+ points a year; and I think there's more there offensively. Think of how damn valuable Bergeron is to Boston. With all our depth in the pipeline on defense I'd make the move and pray Myers never reaches his ceiling. Probably a moot point as I doubt Colorado even entertains moving him.
 

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I'm as big an Oreilly fan as you will find. And I probably wouldn't make that trade...

I would trade Pysyk+ for Oreilly in a millisecond though

Maybe if we drafted Ekblad and then traded Myers for Oreilly...
And Colorado doesn't make that trade which is why I said it probably takes Myers not as a slight at Myers but because he has far more value to the Avalanche. Colorado would need someone who can come in right away and eat big minutes every night. RoR isn't going anywhere anyways and any moves Buffalo could make to land him would ultimately just be moves to make a move. Acquiring him would make a lot more sense in 2 years.
 

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I missed that Florida-Calgary went to OT with the Flames winning last night. Tank rolls on...

Only game of tank interest tonight is the Islanders at Flyers. Hoping for a
Flyers win to move them further ahead of the Sabres and for the Islanders to chaulk
up another loss!!!
 

Moskau

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I missed that Florida-Calgary went to OT with the Flames winning last night. Tank rolls on...
If Calgary wins their game in hand they will have twice as many points as Buffalo.

If you take out the loser and shoot out points Buffalo is on pace to finish with less points in an 82 game season than the #22 team in the league has TODAY.

If you take out other teams loser and shootout points Buffalo is still on pace to finish with less points than the #15 team in the league has TODAY.

Historically bad team.
 

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And Colorado doesn't make that trade which is why I said it probably takes Myers not as a slight at Myers but because he has far more value to the Avalanche. Colorado would need someone who can come in right away and eat big minutes every night. RoR isn't going anywhere anyways and any moves Buffalo could make to land him would ultimately just be moves to make a move. Acquiring him would make a lot more sense in 2 years.

I don't follow the bolded. O'Reilly would fit perfectly into this rebuild.
 

Moskau

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I don't follow the bolded. O'Reilly would fit perfectly into this rebuild.
Because even with him this team is going nowhere for at least 2 years especially if you have to trade a guy like Myers to get him. It's one step forward two steps back for both teams. You trade Myers and you fill a forward position but now you have to wait 2+ years for Ekblad to be as effective as Myers was. RoR would kick start the rebuild but that's only the case if you use futures or incredibly young players to get him and I don't see why Colorado would be interested in that.
 

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i wanted risto and zads... that was my preferred draft path... and then it actually happened.... im super attached.

Both of them are as close to untouchable as it comes. Not only do they have great potential...they also have a great attitude.

It's not only about them as individual players. It's about the bigger picture. Myers, Pysyk, mccabe, Zadorov, Risto,etc... are all huge defenders who can skate. I don't want to lose that potential. That defense could be similar to anaheims in 07.
 

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Both of them are as close to untouchable as it comes. Not only do they have great potential...they also have a great attitude.

It's not only about them as individual players. It's about the bigger picture. Myers, Pysyk, mccabe, Zadorov, Risto,etc... are all huge defenders who can skate. I don't want to lose that potential. That defense could be similar to anaheims in 07.
Pysyk and McCabe are 6'1" on a good day. McCabe is built like a tank though.
 
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