Im guessing you were one of those posters.
I called it was either a hip or a knee injury.
And then the folks who said he was healthy either now down play the injury or ignore it happened completely.
I get it.
Admitting you were wrong can be really difficult for some people.
Playing for months with that injury is not a small thing.
I know you cling on some info you read about how it affects some office workers and refuse to acknowledge how different it is for a pro athlete to keep doing competetive contact sports through the injury.
I think he has had two injuries that cause significant chronic pain and that is something that has caused two of his slumps.
To think its a coincidence is driven by an agenda...
Most of the time.
Pettersson's Struggles:
-start to show a little bit against Philly
-theorizes that he is wired differently that Miller and Hughes; not as emotional as them
-thinks he is one of those guys that is aware of everything that is said about him and it's something he going to have to move past
-Hughes knows what matters and what doesn't
-Miller has got a lot better at "riding the line" emotionally
-Boeser has improved at remaining calm
-Friedman's constructive criticism of Pettersson is he needs to figure out how to ignore the noise
And yet the coach , management and the player himself don’t see it as an excuse for his poor performance, but PuckMunchkin does?Playing for months with that injury is not a small thing.
I know you cling on some info you read about how it affects some office workers and refuse to acknowledge how different it is for a pro athlete to keep doing competetive contact sports through the injury.
You keep stating your uneducated opinnion on Peteys injury as a fact.I've already been over this with you and will not reiterate the points I made previously.
And yet the coach , management and the player himself don’t see it as an excuse for his poor performance, but PuckMunchkin does?
Nope. Because every player is battling something over an 82 game schedule.
Not excuse.
A Key reason.
Let me guess. You were also one of the posters who insisted he was playing healthy last season.
In theory he should be much stronger than his rookie season, yet his rookie season blew away his last 50ish games, so no, the strength thing doesn't hold water imo.I don't even care as much about the body language. It's the not pushing the play that gets me. Like I get if that's just his personality. As long as he's trying to make things happen on the ice and making use of his talent then he has every right to be who he is and exhibit whatever body language comes naturally (though good body language is generally just better, especially in a team environment). But he doesn't. His play, while intelligent and responsible, is just so vanilla offensively.
I said it last season during the playoffs: I think it's actually more simple than we all think. The guy just needs to get stronger. He's lacking confidence to impose himself out there and I honestly think something as simple as getting stronger, staying on his skates and being better able to hold on to the puck and cut to the middle and bulldoze through or around defenders would help his confidence tremendously. The floodgates would open. That's how confidence works.
I genuinely feel for him if all the noise is getting to him. It's a tough situation because it's not as if the market is being unfair either (talking in general, obviously there are always idiots out there who say terrible things). I just hope he can be assured that the entire city is pulling for him and has his back. Hell, that should be abundantly clear after the playoffs when the fans tried to get him going. Like, the market is quite aware of exactly how he's struggling (mentally) and tried to give him a pick me up.
He really doesn't have many excuses. He's just got to figure it out fast. And the organization should be helping him in any possible way they can.
Nope.
Yup.Because every player is battling something over an 82 game schedule.
I'm not taking a guess here. I can see with my own eyes that he's not strong enough out there.In theory he should be much stronger than his rookie season, yet his rookie season blew away his last 50ish games, so no, the strength thing doesn't hold water imo.
Sure it does when you consider you don’t see the majority of players, especially stars, see their production drop by over 50% for extended stretches(40 games +) for injuries that are deemed by everyone involved, to not necessitate any time off.Yup.
A fact that does not change a damn thing about the topic at hand.
About the linemate thing, he was briefly reunited on the lotto line at various points in the 2023-24 seasons. I seem to remember he was pretty ineffective on that line down the stretch (ie: from February onwards). He was (and still is) also very ineffective on the PP which was loaded with the team's best players.During the playoffs you said occams razor is that he is not injured and almost immediately after his injury came out you were questioning it before any accompanying information was out there.
I don't have any issue with how you've phrased the bolded paragraph btw. From the beginning I've said that I don't mind people believing certain factors are more influential than others and its okay to disagree on what order those fall in.
What I have disliked are the few posters who aggressively reject any possible explanation for his play other than his mental state or perceived "effort", and then acting like a victim or pretending to be shocked when other people continue to believe there are multiple contributing factors instead of dogmatically believing there's only one cause.
As for MS, he's right up in that Bobby tier where it's borderline whether it is or isn't trolling when it comes to EP.
I'll give you credit for at least acknowledging the linemates issue which is more than others have done. It was funny watching our boards reject it during the playoffs at the same time that the Oilers were raging about one bad winger causing McDavid to go scoreless, but otherwise I haven't seen anything new in these exchanges in almost 6 months.
You're the OG of selectively ignoring parts of posts in arguments and going on a rant, as I have learned repeatedly.
Interesting that you chose to ignore that no one else he is supposed to be comparable with gets two 4th line wingers and 2nd pair d deployment, which is what he got during his slump last year.
Maybe I just missed it where in all of your detailed statistical analysis you pointed out where other 100+ point players got two 4th line wingers and second pair d deployment for half a season and kept up their 100 point pace?
As I have said from the beginning, how much his injury played into his struggles is unknown. There are other factors too. However, the dogmatic insistence that his injury was not a factor and that it's all about his perceived effort and perceived body language is meme worthy.
How else is "EP's injury had no significant impact" supposed to be interpreted other than "no leeway should be given due to injury"?
At least you're consistent in injury denial. Dogmatic insistence that the season he sat out for 56 games he wasn't injured until the minute he sat out his first game.
21-22 was a complete anomaly for the entire team and if you don't acknowledge that you're trolling. Not everyone can flip a switch like some of the team did during the Bruce bump, a lesson that every contender trying to coast through a season preparing for playoffs eventually learns.
Disagree and criticize his views as much as you wish, but calling someone who is clearly intelligent and explains his views in rational ways a troll suggests a degree of emotion that doesn't enhance the discussion....
As for MS, he's right up in that Bobby tier where it's borderline whether it is or isn't trolling when it comes to EP.
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