Player Discussion Elias Pettersson - Please, Be Civil

theguardianII

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Let me stop you there. That's not what I said or even close to implying.

i'm saying inevitably you're going to be trading Miller to appease Miller regardless of what happens to Petey.

"Miller needs a reset" happened, that could quickly become "Miller needs a change of scenery." We've seen that play out with emotional American stars playing in Canada before.

So... plan accordingly.
Geez, so many fans think players on the team are a thrilled to be here and never want to be or play closer to their home or family once they reach a certain level.
Just wait until all the Hughes stuff starts, there is so much more meat on that bone.

Players sign contracts to play not into servitude.

Miller's personal reset? There is a lot more "personal" than just Dhali's suggestion of mental, he was the first to start that rumor 3 minutes after the Canuck statement release.

Not to mention if Miller was moved and Petey continued to struggle, we'd be right back to a media shitstorm except this time it would be directed only at Petey. I don't envy Allvin right now.
The production out of Petey right now is easily replaced, Cozens could do that and hit more too.
 

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The year is 2026

And people will still be in here coping that an injury is still there


Well, we're not privy to enough information either way so?

I do find it interesting that some posters don't take Pettersson at his word with regards to his nagging knee injury. Fine. Yet, some of these same posters morphed his vocalized desire to win into a specific retool strategy. Believed and then disbelieved.
 
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He has 26 pts in 32 gp for 11.6 million bucks. That’s horrendous. If things end badly this year, you can trust and believe Rutherford will look to move him
 
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centipede2233

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He looked more like himself without Miller in the Lineup.
Exactly. Which is likely why Petey gets moved if he can’t look like himself with miller. It’s unfortunate but it seems this situation I won’t rectify itself with both of them here. Petey ends up with 65-70 pts and a rd1 loss, Peter’s will be moved before July 1
 

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They have to make a decision soon, before his NMC kicks in. I expect him or Miller to be dealt by trade deadline.
Miller has a NMC. Petey will be the one to go. It won’t be a deadline deal though. It’ll be a summer trade before July 1.
 

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Miller seems like a Cancer. Gets kicked off 2 teams and now is beefing with 1st Horvat and now Pettersson? He apparently needed time off from what? Being a dick? Dude seems mentally soft.
Miller and Bo didn't have beef. Bo wasn't very popular by the end of his tenure and Miller was running the room as he had the players respect. Nobody listened to Bo and they were relieved when he was traded. I have met Horvat many times and he was a nice dude and I am not sure why he wasn't particularly well liked. I believe it had a lot to do with his passive play and not having teamates backs.

Petterson wasn't well liked (my information is from last January) and I suspect that's still the case. He only hangs out with a very small group on the team and isn't social with others. I don't like EP and hope he is moved asap.

Regardless, if the room is actually this bad right now then move one of them. I don't like the idea of having a moody, cliquey $11.6MM long term contract on this team. He just doesn't appear that interested in hockey and that happens to some players. Doesn't mean he is a bad guy but it could be one of the worst contracts in the league at some point. Hopefully they all learn to work together and both Miller and EP get back to playing well.
 

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Miller and Bo didn't have beef. Bo wasn't very popular by the end of his tenure and Miller was running the room as he had the players respect. Nobody listened to Bo and they were relieved when he was traded. I have met Horvat many times and he was a nice dude and I am not sure why he wasn't particularly well liked. I believe it had a lot to do with his passive play and not having teamates backs.

Petterson wasn't well liked (my information is from last January) and I suspect that's still the case. He only hangs out with a very small group on the team and isn't social with others. I don't like EP and hope he is moved asap.

Regardless, if the room is actually this bad right now then move one of them. I don't like the idea of having a moody, cliquey $11.6MM long term contract on this team. He just doesn't appear that interested in hockey and that happens to some players. Doesn't mean he is a bad guy but it could be one of the worst contracts in the league at some point. Hopefully they all learn to work together and both Miller and EP get back to playing well.
I find it a lot more believable that Miller's the problem than Petey.

Dude was chased out of New York and dumped almost immediately by Tampa after signing a long-term deal there.

He seems like the only player to get into repeated beefs with other teammates like Schenn and Petey.

I get the strong sense he wasn't liked much in New York and Tampa and is a bit of a drama queen.
 
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Miller and Bo didn't have beef. Bo wasn't very popular by the end of his tenure and Miller was running the room as he had the players respect. Nobody listened to Bo and they were relieved when he was traded. I have met Horvat many times and he was a nice dude and I am not sure why he wasn't particularly well liked. I believe it had a lot to do with his passive play and not having teamates backs.

Petterson wasn't well liked (my information is from last January) and I suspect that's still the case. He only hangs out with a very small group on the team and isn't social with others. I don't like EP and hope he is moved asap.

Regardless, if the room is actually this bad right now then move one of them. I don't like the idea of having a moody, cliquey $11.6MM long term contract on this team. He just doesn't appear that interested in hockey and that happens to some players. Doesn't mean he is a bad guy but it could be one of the worst contracts in the league at some point. Hopefully they all learn to work together and both Miller and EP get back to playing well.
This checks out
 

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I find it a lot more believable that Miller's the problem than Petey.

Dude was chased out of New York and dumped almost immediately by Tampa after signing a long-term deal there.

He seems like the only player to get into repeated beefs with other teammates like Schenn and Petey.

I get the strong sense he wasn't liked much in New York and Tampa and is a bit of a drama queen.
Fair enough. My information is from alumni and not directly from the room. But have heard differently. I don't really care, they need to grow up.

That being said, I am extremely nervous about EP being worth his contract. It would be a good idea to bring in another veteran with clout in the room.
 

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I find it a lot more believable that Miller's the problem than Petey.

Dude was chased out of New York and dumped almost immediately by Tampa after signing a long-term deal there.

He seems like the only player to get into repeated beefs with other teammates like Schenn and Petey.

I get the strong sense he wasn't liked much in New York and Tampa and is a bit of a drama queen.

It's astonishing how so many just blindly look past JT's history. "It must be the other guy who is the problem."
 
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Not to mention if Miller was moved and Petey continued to struggle, we'd be right back to a media shitstorm except this time it would be directed only at Petey. I don't envy Allvin right now.
tough decisions. trade em both and insulate a newer culture builte around hughes, debrusk demko.
 

sting101

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Question?

If Miller has beef with Pettersson what would be the reasons why?

Same for Pettersson?
 

Nucker101

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I find it a lot more believable that Miller's the problem than Petey.

Dude was chased out of New York and dumped almost immediately by Tampa after signing a long-term deal there.

He seems like the only player to get into repeated beefs with other teammates like Schenn and Petey.

I get the strong sense he wasn't liked much in New York and Tampa and is a bit of a drama queen.
I don't disagree that J.T. could potentially be a locker room problem but I don't understand this post, not sure what is even true here and how it even correlates.

Chased out of NYR? Source? Was Ryan McDonagh chased out too? Is he a locker room problem too?

Tampa was in cap hell, he was seen as more of a luxury than a core piece there. Lots of good players have that happen to them.

It's astonishing how so many just blindly look past JT's history. "It must be the other guy who is the problem."
What's his history though? I haven't read anything about him being a locker room problem in NY or TB .I have read from Miller himself that he was immature as a young player in NY and didn't play the right way, but how does that mean he was a locker room problem?
 

Nucker101

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Fair enough. My information is from alumni and not directly from the room. But have heard differently. I don't really care, they need to grow up.

That being said, I am extremely nervous about EP being worth his contract. It would be a good idea to bring in another veteran with clout in the room.
I feel like a guy who's been around as long as Rutherford and won multiple cups with different franchises would get the proper intel before signing him to such a lucrative contract, don't you?

I feel like the vibes are off, but it seems like something happened post-contract to me.
 
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