Eichel

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Is there any scenario where he could end up a Leaf?

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[Bomber0104]

No.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Is there any scenario where he could end up a Leaf?

Hopefully not.

 

[egd27]

Is there any scenario where he could end up a Leaf?

Yes there are, but not one that makes sense.

 

[Sypher04]

Not at all saying we should do this, but hypothetically, you could trade marner for eichel. Make Eichel #2 center and shift Tavares to the wing where he may age better. There are scenarios, I’d just call them unlikely at best

 

[ACC1224]

Is there any scenario where he could end up a Leaf?

Obviously yes.

Nylander + 1st while Buffalo retains 25%.

 

[Jeffrey Pedler]

Buffalo would have to retain alot of his cap, unless we give up one of the big 4.

 

[Mess]

Leafs are struggling to win with 3 double digit AAV players, so maybe we need 4.

 

[The Hanging Jowl]

I'll say it again: Marner straight up.

- Buffalo might go for it because they're under pressure and certainly won't get fair value plus Marner's deal was very front loaded so there are monetary incentives.

- Eichel has a give-a-shit quality to his game that this team seems to be missing.

- The team clearly needs a shakeup and a message sent.

 

[diceman934]

I'll say it again: Marner straight up.

- Buffalo might go for it because they're under pressure and certainly won't get fair value plus Marner's deal was very front loaded so there are monetary incentives.

- Eichel has a give-a-shit quality to his game that this team seems to be missing.

- The team clearly needs a shakeup and a message sent.

So we give up the better player. Who is heathy. No thanks

 

[mclaren55]

So we give up the better player. Who is heathy. No thanks

Marner is not a better player than Eichel.

 

[diceman934]

Marner is not a better player than Eichel.

Yes he is.

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more points in less games. One is over a point per game player the other is not.

 

[mclaren55]

Yes he is.

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lol

 

[diceman934]

lol

What about facts is funny. He is the better player and not a dressing room issue.

 

[mclaren55]

What about facts is funny. He is the better player and not a dressing room issue.

Facts without context are useless. Just like your argument. Did you take into account quality of linemates or competition into your in depth assessment?

 

[glue]

To me there are 2 issues with Eichel I'm concerned about - #1 Health #2 Attitude. I think with #2 its debatable only because we don't truly know how Buffalo has been with him as an organization and the inability of that management to even put together a playoff team may be weighing on him. His health on the other hand is a huge concern, no value if dude is hurt half the time. Also only way this happens in my opinion is if Leafs are trading one of the big 4, and I think its clear that won't be happening....atleast not yet.

 

[Gary Nylund]

What about facts is funny. He is the better player and not a dressing room issue.

There's more to player evaluation then sorting by points but I'm pretty sure you know this.

 

[Buds17]

Don't see it. A centre (making big money) isn't exactly a team need. Being divisional rivals doesn't seem to be the biggest help either, even when taking into consideration the look that the teams are going in very opposite directions. There exists the potential for a sizable reward here. Conversely, I'd guess the risk to be just as big.

 

[ACC1224]

So we give up the better player. Who is heathy. No thanks

Yeah, doesn't make a lot of sense for the Leafs.

 

[Dekes For Days]

Marner is not a better player than Eichel.

Yeah, he is. Even more-so when talking about injured Eichel, who may never properly heal.

 

[diceman934]

Facts without context are useless. Just like your argument. Did you take into account quality of linemates or competition into your in depth assessment?

What is your facts to support your claim.

Marner has produced better. Is better defensively. Makes players on his line better. Is not a dressing room issue. Kills penalties. It all adds up to a much better player.

 

[diceman934]

There's more to player evaluation then sorting by points but I'm pretty sure you know this.

There sure is. Dressing room issues. Defensively poor. Disliked by coaches and team mates. Does not make his team mates better.

 

[ACC1224]

What is your facts to support your claim.

Marner has produced better. Is better defensively. Makes players on his line better. Is not a dressing room issue. Kills penalties. It all adds up to a much better player.

If the Leafs didn't have Matthews I could see a case being made for a Marner/Eichel swap.

 

[Buds17]

Yes he is.

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more points in less games. One is over a point per game player the other is not.

I'd take Marner from a defensive standpoint too.

 

[diceman934]

If the Leafs didn't have Matthews I could see a case being made for a Marner/Eichel swap.

I would swap JT for him but never Marner he makes players around him better. I would trade Nylander and a prospect for him with retained cap hit up 30%